Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

A little late but that's something I brought up before. and it won't simply be a backlash to transgender movement but also the fact that many people will find need to find a new way to understand their existence in the wake of trans movement. There are going to be a lot of detransitioners with permanent physical changes. A lot of kids were put on puberty blockers and hormones young, a lot wouldn't grow up medically normally anymore even if they no longer identify as trans. These things cannot be hidden in secret like John Money era anymore.

I don't know how this will affect culture, but I think new paradigms and ideas around sex and gender must come out from this and unlike what the majority of farmers wish. It's not going to be a conservative return but rather something new.

That kind of gender nonconformity without identification might happen as well.
There are far too many kids who were put on blockers, but not nearly enough to create some kind of stupid sci fi "world beyond gender" gay Annie Lennox David Bowie fantasy like what you're clearly hoping for.

Everyone who can stuff themselves back into something resembling normal had better start stuffing because the culture is giving some pretty clear indications of what is coming next and it's not agender paradise.
 
I've posted before about how I think tra is basically just mra and it's forced a resurgence in conservative men's rights (which women don't actually want, or we wouldn't have moved away from it in the first place) to get rid of it, and women aren't going to actually become okay with tradwife shit on any big scale but look for a middle ground where men aren't trannies or alphas. If you look at who is actually taking up the tradwife lifestyle, it's the prostitute's grift on tiktok.

Women also currently have the libfem enabler option or the tradwife option (porn is on both sides of this and women generally want to avoid that) and need a third way too, and currently we're picking not having sex with anyone as the third way, rejection vs placation, but that obviously can't last or society literally hasn't got a future. Or full scale adoption of separatism where women raise kids without men, but that will be a last resort, most women would like a partner if they can find a guy with his shit together.

I've posted about this a lot before too but I don't think any of this can change until men ditch porn in large numbers because porn equates sex with violence not love, and men are shaped by that from early childhood now, and why would the vast majority of women want to interact with men who think like that. And who knows how long that will take or if it is even possible because most men will take the easy dopamine hit over what's good for society. So many troons are men who literally destroyed their bodies in the name of that dopamine hit.
 
I've posted before about how I think tra is basically just mra and it's forced a resurgence in conservative men's rights (which women don't actually want, or we wouldn't have moved away from it in the first place) to get rid of it, and women aren't going to actually become okay with tradwife shit on any big scale but look for a middle ground where men aren't trannies or alphas. If you look at who is actually taking up the tradwife lifestyle, it's the prostitute's grift on tiktok.

Women also currently have the libfem enabler option or the tradwife option (porn is on both sides of this and women generally want to avoid that) and need a third way too, and currently we're picking not having sex with anyone as the third way, rejection vs placation, but that obviously can't last or society literally hasn't got a future. Or full scale adoption of separatism where women raise kids without men, but that will be a last resort, most women would like a partner if they can find a guy with his shit together.

I've posted about this a lot before too but I don't think any of this can change until men ditch porn in large numbers because porn equates sex with violence not love, and men are shaped by that from early childhood now, and why would the vast majority of women want to interact with men who think like that. And who knows how long that will take or if it is even possible because most men will take the easy dopamine hit over what's good for society. So many troons are men who literally destroyed their bodies in the name of that dopamine hit.
Poisoning the well - people are supposed to be grey, colorless,
breeding servants for the upper classes dining and wining in the finest garb while having all the orgies.
The idea was to make anything out of the box seem insane and ridiculous with giving rope by the running meter to the few select speds who would always ask for more - rope that is.
 
The idea was to make anything out of the box seem insane and ridiculous with giving rope by the running meter to the few select speds who would always ask for more - rope that is.
I do wonder if there'll be any intra-trans backlash. Not loudly, just what used to be called "truscum" getting a little bit Wu and telling the diaper-in-public turbopervs they ruined it for everyone.

I would love to see the trans community pile on e.g. Danielle Muscato as an obvious plant, clearly a deep cover false flag operation to make transwomen look irrational (and greasy).
 
I do wonder if there'll be any intra-trans backlash. Not loudly, just what used to be called "truscum" getting a little bit Wu and telling the diaper-in-public turbopervs they ruined it for everyone.

I would love to see the trans community pile on e.g. Danielle Muscato as an obvious plant, clearly a deep cover false flag operation to make transwomen look irrational (and greasy).
I think intra tranny backlash is already happening, but it's like with intersex, the few passing troons are miniscule and the silent hons, who are peacefully honning about, are trying to stay down at any rate. I think I've already seen spergs like that from trannies over the years. Actually, I think truscum accusing the others of ruining it for them is a very old staple, come to think of it. The loud ladyboy variety is too retarded to do anything more sophisticated than just mirroring the farms by dunking on the bruce jenners for basically not looking as "hot" as them. If you don't pass, there really isn't any point in dunking on other trannies overall - except for "im hotter than you", because their thing just doesn't work when you can't possibly mistake them for women. You can't really argue being a true and honest woman, when you don't even look like one to average people. And even that kind of dunking is now moot, because the presidential order doesn't leave room for "good ones". - Which is neat. I fear this might actually shift them into consolidating their front, because the basic idea is now under attack.
 
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A man was just nominated for a "Best Actress" Oscar.
Even from the thumbnail, you can tell.
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Hmm, which one could it be....
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Yep, that one.
 
the few passing troons are miniscule and the silent hons, who are peacefully honning about, are trying to stay down at any rate.
It's not even those hypothetical passing troons, but the autism-first troons in dowdy-mode who are making their TTRPG groups awkward because they won't shut up about the history of the telephone, not because they're trying to roll for vagina depth.

I guess the "musing" thread is the right place for it, but I think troon activists like to jump to "people only accept us when we're 100% passing and we don't owe you all that effort."

This attempts to frame troon-dislike as normal people judging the troon for not covering themself in fashion tape and intense highlighter/concealer every day, so superficial, when really the normal people are judging them for inappropriate conduct with a side of inadequate basic hygiene.


This is similar to self-styled incels who deride their romantic targets as superficial and wanting impossible male beauty standards, but refuse to take responsibility for keeping their bedroom floor and perineal area clean. This is why scientists feel the groups have a common ancestor.
 
Is anyone else annoyed with a male actor getting the nomination for best actress for his work on Emilia Perez?
Is anyone else annoyed with the mere premise of Emilia Perez (cartel gang leader troons out, musical ensues)?
What makes any of this a "good movie" let alone "best picture" quality?
 
This attempts to frame troon-dislike as normal people judging the troon for not covering themself in fashion tape and intense highlighter/concealer every day, so superficial, when really the normal people are judging them for inappropriate conduct with a side of inadequate basic hygiene.
I think that happens, because unlike incels, many have a closed loop with chasers in that department and whatever makes these men's dicks hard, becomes "passing" for women - That explains the gaudy, obnoxious variety to me.
I think the slobs are just not trying because they know that a bad-hair-day basically unravels their whole identity anyway.
That's - on a side note - why they feel so betrayed when their chasers turn out to just be faggots like them, because that means they didn't really "woman", not because they have a dick, but because whatever they did to appeal to these guys loses the "we do what straight guys like in women"-approval sticker completely. So all the meanies, who couldn't possibly tell they're men, might suddenly also be right. They basically can't mode switch, since they get all their validation from the fetish side of it. They can't be the nice man in a dress with tits, because they didn't sign up to be a freak, they signed up to be a woman and only chasers - lying to their faces - give them that approval, so they either go all incel slob, when they are too unattractive for that peculiar niche, or they become obnoxious, inappropriate full time whores in the way they act.
 
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Rate me late or autistic or whatever but I was lying in bed, slightly feverish and reading the pooner thread, when a neuron must have connected because something suddenly clicked.

All these "gender" feels are internal world stuff, right? Our perception of ourselves, the balancing of Ego against Id and Super Ego, whatever. It's all in our heads. But for trannies and pooners and enbies, they have this need to externalize these thoughts and feelings, to force other people to see and acknowledge them.

I know that roping other people into your navel-gazing antics is a pretty BPD or narcissistic thing to do, and obviously there's a lot of gender-specials who qualify for having Cluster B traits if not a full-blown personality disorder of some kind, but I didn't really get it until now.

Normal people can feel a certain way, but know that's just a feeling. I've never felt especially ladylike, but I never felt the urge to scream it to the whole world. It's a private thing that doesn't affect much, besides hobbies and interests or personal fashion choices. It doesn't really matter, especially not to anyone else. People talking about themselves is boring because no one cares as much about your inner world as you do.

Trannies, though. There is nothing at all stopping them from keeping their degen pornsick activities limited to their private spaces, and yet they are compelled to externalize these fetishes and insecurities and subject everyone else to them. They get off on it.

"No shit, Misogenes, that's why we hate them." I know, I know. But for some reason, I never really put the pieces together that even the quiet I-want-to-be-left-alone trannies are choosing not to keep this nonsense to themselves. Every time they put on a spinny skirt and go out on public, they are making a declaration: "I'm a man in a dress!" When they grow out their balding hair and scribble cosmetics on their stubbly faces, they are saying, quite loudly, "I am a perv and/or a sex pest who wants to wear your skin!" The autism may keep them from realizing that's what they're saying, but the social cues and red flags are there for everyone else to see.

So many of these weirdos crave attention and validation, and violating social norms is definitely one way to get that. They're not content to keep their inner weirdo tucked away in a box until they go home to prance around in lacy panties and jerk off. They kicked the closet door wide open and are making it everyone else's problem. They may have weird feelings and emotions and obsessive thoughts, and they may be possessed by the coom demon, but being trans, openly, is a choice they are consciously making. They want the attention it brings, for whatever reason. Might be they'd prefer it was positive attention and ass-pats, but they go outside looking like they do even if they know it'll get them jeers and nasty looks. If someone makes a stink about it, they get to call that person a bigot and can identify as a victim for that sweet dopamine rush from their fellow hugbox prisoners.

I won't ever believe one of these weirdos again when they claim they just want to live their life quietly when their entire presentation is a vibrant display of mental illness and obsession. If you really wanted to fly under the radar, you would have stayed in the closet and kept your thoughts and feelings private, like everyone else does in most public social situations.

It really must be hell to be an avoidant, nonconfrontational person who actively chooses to go out looking and sounding like an eye-catching and controversial disaster. No wonder so many end up necking themselves.
 
I've noticed something ever since Trump got re-elected and basically took an enormous country-wide piss on all trannies with his executive orders on day uno. Nobody really seems to give that much of a shit. Granted I don't live in America, nor do I have any social media accounts, but the prevailing feeling this time around seems to be indifference. After the global outcry in 2016 when Trump won the election (and he was, by all accounts, more balanced on the tranny issue at the time) I've been checking news sites multiple times a day expecting to hear about riots, protests and general civil unrest.

Thus far, it's been crickets. No protests, no riots, no assassination attempts, no tranny marches in DC or anything of the sort.

Could it be that nobody really gave a shit about trannies this whole time and the mainstream support they've been enjoying the last few years has basically been completely performative because it was easy and fashionable? The extent of the backlash seems to be entirely contained within tranny subreddits and leftist social media.

Please correct me if my international read on the situation is incorrect in any way. I've just found the comparison between 2016 Trump and 2025 Trump's inauguration to be very interesting, especially with him being far more decisive on the tranny issue right from the jump this time around. Is it because the tranny support was all illusory this whole time? Is it due to exhaustion from tranny oversaturation these last few years? Is it a case of them learning from their mistakes last time around when they all just made complete retards of themselves?
 
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All these "gender" feels are internal world stuff, right? Our perception of ourselves, the balancing of Ego against Id and Super Ego, whatever. It's all in our heads. But for trannies and pooners and enbies, they have this need to externalize these thoughts and feelings, to force other people to see and acknowledge them.
As an example of my own head cannon/personal world in conflict used to be when I’d use young cartoon women as profile pics (yes, I even had the same style the troons/poons did at one point). I just got to a point where I realized I didn’t identify as a woman who looks 16-24 so why is this my pfp. Even with real life, I’ve just accepted that some fashion styles are too “young” for me and moved on.

The healthy response is to accept reality first, and work with what you have. I use avatars of people who are around my age (or just animals as you see) and dress with styles that flatter an adult rather than a younger woman. I’ve accepted and celebrated my reality, and as a result I feel less internal conflict. I assume people are comfortable around me because my looks reflect the reality of my age.

Similarly, I have an acquaintance who is my age who enjoys dressing up in lolita fashion and often posts her looks on social media, and she looks odd dressed up. Not gonna say she can’t enjoy her hobby, but just gonna say it’s odd to see posted (and in person I’m sure).

I think a lot of them would be happier if they tried to accept reality over trying to fit their bodies into looks meant for another sex. I’ve said it before, but it doesn’t make sense to wear makeup and fashion that was made to highlight the female sex when you are of a male sex. Doesn’t mean you can’t wear makeup or “girlier” clothes, but it needs to be with an awareness of reality taken into account. Women fucking love men who are more effeminate. Look at all those girls obsessed with Harry Styles.

this is taking a more “girly” type of fashion and catering it to fit his body while maintaining the reality that he is a man.
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And here he is wearing dress meant for a female frame and it looks odd
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Same with pooners. Masculine women are attractive to both genders, so they could simply chose to express themselves in a less feminine way, but instead they want to try to fit into the gender norms for men and grow a beard. Then they look like fucking clowns as short girly “men” with facial hair.

Instead of taking what their Creator gave them and making it work, they turned it into a freak show. Yes, I know some of it was for perversion, but a lot of innocent people have gotten swept up in it too.
 
I'm at the clinic getting routine blood work done in a new neighborhood (traveling and it is a sudden thing) and a tranny sat next to me (well one seat away). The guy is built like a line backer, wearing a denim jacket with stupid patches on his back (like Lego stuff), and matching jean pants a female hair pin and fishnet pants? Mind you I'm in the middle of a black working class neighborhood and this (white) tranny keeps clutching these fag flag trinkets. Looking scared at all the white people who are just on their phones doing nothing. The most interesting thing is that when this person was called in no one sat at the chair the tranny sat in. And the blacks have a look of disgust.



It's almost like people avoid them irl. You know how the soviets would de-personalize people? It's crazy how these troons did it to themselves IRL.
 
Is anyone else annoyed with a male actor getting the nomination for best actress for his work on Emilia Perez?
Is anyone else annoyed with the mere premise of Emilia Perez (cartel gang leader troons out, musical ensues)?
What makes any of this a "good movie" let alone "best picture" quality?
It appealed to troons, troon-defending critics, Black Rock executives and pretty much no one else. It's reception among general audiences is poor-
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I was just thinking it’s as likely for me to be 8 feet 10, or a dog, as I’m the opposite sex. It’s just that impossible.
Actually, breaking your legs over and over with that leg lengthening surgery would be insane, painful, and quite probably crippling, but there is, depending on what height you started at, at least a tiny possibility of you actually becoming 8 feet 10 inches tall.
I mean, the chances are much much higher that you would just die from some awful complications (hopefully whilst still under anesthesia) but it's still not as actually impossible as changing sex.
The fact that something as insane as becoming 8 feet 10 inches tall is more realistic than their entire lives says so much about the insanity of clown world.
 
Normal people can feel a certain way, but know that's just a feeling
The funny thing is that some of these people were normal and experiencing normal emotions until being told they're abnormal. Even things like cosplay or roleplay as the opposite sex is normal. But if they get told that it's a sign they're trans, then they'll think they're now trans.
 
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