Slight tangent, but it really fucking annoys me now when people accuse people they don’t like of fascism or Nazism.
I have to deal with non westerners on occasion and it’s sometimes annoyingly complex to explain to them how Nazism and fascism differ and why they are both being used in a completely incorrect context.
For example, whatever my personal opinion on Donald Trump, having to explain to middle easterners that he is not an advocate of aryan racial superiority combined with a ethnic-caste based socialism is more complicated than it should have to be!
Slight tangent, but it really fucking annoys me now when people accuse people they don’t like of fascism or Nazism.
I have to deal with non westerners on occasion and it’s sometimes annoyingly complex to explain to them how Nazism and fascism differ and why they are both being used in a completely incorrect context.
For example, whatever my personal opinion on Donald Trump, having to explain to middle easterners that he is not an advocate of aryan racial superiority combined with a ethnic-caste based socialism is more complicated than it should have to be!
The fact that they blame kiwifarms and JK Rowling for causing suicides with mean words indicates that these people are probably going to suicide as soon as anything upsets them.
Remember when you weren't supposed to make a huge deal (newspaper etc.) about individual teen suicides, for fear of inspiring copycats? And cutting and eating disorders were known to travel in groups, and spike after news stories about them?
The slightest hardship for a trans person means imminent suicide--they'll tell you that themselves. Shouldn't it be kept secret, since it's what the kids call a cognetohazard?
I would like to have someone analyze when the recommendations changed. You wouldn't be likely to find an article in a teachers' journal that said "don't glorify student suicides except for in the case of this new thing, transgenderism," but you could track trends in suicide best practices over the years, and see what they weren't saying.
Troons are super mad that Dagny Benedict's death was determined to be a suicide. They're claiming that there was bias in the medical examination and that that the evil cishet society is denying that trannies are super oppressed. This is such a dumb move because it's such blatant dishonesty. This case isn't something that's only known to the terminally online like Catboy Ranch or the TransLifeline fraud. This is a major news story that everybody has heard of. It's more likely that people will notice their lies, which may get them to think about other things trannies are lying about and even begin to question if there is a tranocide. It's not like troons couldn't milk it as a suicide. We're told that trannies will kill themselves if they're correctly sexed. They could easily use this to say "Your acknowledgement of reality transphobic bullying caused an innocent trans theyby to kill themself! This proves misgendering and hate speech are deadly!" But no, they want to push the narrative that a trans person was beaten to death by a group of bigots for the crime of being themself because there's a tranocide.
If troons cared at all about suicide prevention and protecting trans kids, they wouldn't be blasting this tranocide rhetoric to young people. For all we know, Benedict could have killed herself because she felt like she was living in a world impossibly bigoted against her and that there would never be a way to happiness within the evil cisiety. Nobody is telling gender-confused children that "it gets better" because it runs counter to their coveted victimhood narrative. The message of It Gets Better campaigns was that, with hard work, you can overcome bigotry and make a nice life for yourself where you aren't a victim. Many teens are trooning out because they don't want to be a boring cishet oppressor, and many troon adults use victimhood to grift and e-beg so that they can fund their expensive lifestyles with disproportionately little, or no, work. It's plain evil that confused teens are being told they'll get genocided, all because the Tranchers of the world are too lazy to positively contribute to society.
Either way, if the kid feels they need to cut them out of their life to recover from the damage their parents, well so be it. If the parents really weren't that bad they'll reconcile when they're ready.
I think about this a lot. The "I don't own anyone anything" is rampant when discussing family life. You don't owe your parents anything. Grandparents don't owe spending time with grandkids. And while technically true, it's also a really good way to have a very lonely and transactional life.
I think about this a lot. The "I don't own anyone anything" is rampant when discussing family life. You don't owe your parents anything. Grandparents don't owe spending time with grandkids. And while technically true, it's also a really good way to have a very lonely and transactional life.
I actually agree with you on this. I just think it’s unrealistic and often unfair to expect the adult child be the one to break that cycle with their parent. Especially when IME they often try to and the parent won’t even meet them halfway. If someone's parent is a lost cause (and IMO most boomers are), sometimes the best thing to do is let them go and then focus on breaking the cycle with your own kids.
All of troonary is blatant dishonesty. I keep thinking the normies will finally see that and the madness will finally end, but troons just keep on trooning.
Remember when you weren't supposed to make a huge deal (newspaper etc.) about individual teen suicides, for fear of inspiring copycats? And cutting and eating disorders were known to travel in groups, and spike after news stories about them?
The slightest hardship for a trans person means imminent suicide--they'll tell you that themselves. Shouldn't it be kept secret, since it's what the kids call a cognetohazard?
I would like to have someone analyze when the recommendations changed. You wouldn't be likely to find an article in a teachers' journal that said "don't glorify student suicides except for in the case of this new thing, transgenderism," but you could track trends in suicide best practices over the years, and see what they weren't saying.
Yep, remember this. When there was a suicide in those times, it was left for the family to decide and announce and invite classmates, and the method was not described.
Teenagers lie, which is important to raise here. It can be hard for them to see beyond the immediate reward of getting the thing you want or short-term relief from distress, which not only makes their mental health vulnerable, but can feed into threats and manipulation. I can see how I might have tried to manipulate those around me if I was a teenager today. When I got to a safer point in my life, even changed custody and decision making for me for some months, I was kind of a pain in the ass. At least until I was more able to work on my mental health.
I really do not think trans kids and teens are necessarily compos mentae (sp?) An existing mental health issue can make it more difficult to decide for yourself medically, especially if it’s something permanent. I was 16 when people around me found out about my mental health issues and self-harm. 16 is an age of making one’s own medical decisions legally, but it was clear I wasn’t in a good enough place or with enough knowledge to do so, at least not on my own. Due to family issues, the decisions were given to another trusted adult rather than going through a legal process with records and getting a guardian ad litem. She made the correct ones, and the process was explained as “you get input, but you’re not well enough to have the final word or think of everything that’s needed.” Took about six months to get “deciding” back for myself.
I fear this kind of caution is not applied when it comes to transitioning. The ideology and narrative push is so strong that the capacity of the individual young person is much less considered. If I were a teenager now with the same issues I dealt with before, yet wanted to transition, I would likely see all green lights. This scares me.
Maybe time to treat the trans suicide threat the way I experienced and saw others treated when I was younger if they tried to threaten self-harm or suicide. Practices were along the lines of it’s okay to validate the feelings of the person, and of course check actual risks, but do not enable that kind of manipulation, and you can absolutely say that it isn’t appropriate. Let’s just say I didn’t threaten twice, and during my youth emo era, when I was trying to fix things, I still wasn’t allowed to lash out at others.
The key thing? Back then there seemed to be a division between “okay, you feel X, but you still can’t Y because of it.” And for my part, I had enough empathy to understand that threats or outbursts, even where due to mental health, are scary for others.
Trans youth of the type to make threats have lost the distinction that their mental health is an explanation, not an excuse.
A blogger I know often compares politics to playing a board game- one cannot just start ignoring rules and throwing pieces around when one is losing.
I’ll just say something about the trans people using suicide as a way to get what they want, something that I frequently heard:
“I understand you’re upset, but this is not appropriate.”
Practices were along the lines of it’s okay to validate the feelings of the person, and of course check actual risks, but do not enable that kind of manipulation, and you can absolutely say that it isn’t appropriate.
That's what has changed, not that teenagers are worse now, or they feel worse now, but that now the adults add fuel to the teenager's emotional decisions, as long as they go in a trans direction.
Everyone has been a teenager, and it was at least intermittently awful. Teens were absolutely sure they were going to become a nun, be emo forever, be mysterious by never speaking, get the most amazing never-regretted tattoos, or more mundanely, not follow up on scholarship opportunities, not finish the very last bit of paperwork to become an Eagle Scout.
It's hard stopping teenagers from being stupid, because they're a child brain piloting an adult body in a sea of stress and hormones. But how much worse is it when adults have set up a system where they add fuel to the flames, if the teenager says "trans?" And how much more tempting is it for a teen to say "trans," when that can include vague nonbinary, and when they can see that "trans" means attention and celebration and excuses. Trans kids don't have to work on their coping skills or figure out how they'll fit into the world with the least amount of angst. "Trans" means everyone else has to change for you.
That's part of why it's the roach motel of identities: easy to enter, very hard to leave.
anti-detrans ppl will be like "if you, as a teenager, got involved with a community constantly telling you that you'll kill yourself by the age of 30 unless you medically transition, you're a gullible fucking moron for letting that convince you to transition. also we CANNOT allow detransitioners to share their stories because they might influence some people not to transition" and not see any contradiction between those two sentiments
Okay, maybe someone can answer this 'cuz I've looked around with no success: Is the person who voiced Lady Dimitrescu in Resident Evil a troon? They go by the name Maggie Robertson, and every photo I've seen of them sets off my alarm bells, but I also know they could just be a very unfortunate ugly woman. It doesn't help that they seem very involved in sucking off the Pride community on social media...
Porn poisoned and cannot have any normal orgasm from normal people. If you somehow can't get a boner or only the smallest amount of lust from real people, it's easy to mistake your sexuality for nonexistent rather than a self inflicted problem.
People who have very strong paraphilias, to the point where they're not attracted to people if at all and only get off to the object of paraphilia like shoes or cars.
People who deny they have kinks. Some are self hating for having any sexual thoughts at all, and others are trying to hide they have a really creepy or weird attraction like ABDL.
I'm not asexual, but have a lower sex drive then the vast majority of men my age. (early abuse + brain trauma). I don't really have much interest in porn, why would I?
I'm not aromantic, but maybe they've been burnt in the past, they lack the incentive of sex to couple up or their social and belonging needs are already met another way.
I’ve noticed with some young troons (mtf) they have almost like a male version of ROGD. I get the sense they have basically neglectful (at best) parents who leave their weird, likely autistic son to marinate online all day and that’s how they fall into the troon trap. It comes along with incels etc believing women live life on easy mode etc too.
That and by becoming a spinny princess, they escape the original sin of male oppressiveness that has been hammered into them via A*FL authority figures since young.
Random thought. If you're in the USA, and an oldfag... Do you remember what a big fucking deal the movie "The Crying Game" was? The big secret was a huge salacious moment in the entertainment industry. This would only be eclipsed by Sharon Stone's gash flash a few years later. The film isn't that old. It's just a mindfuck to see how far pop culture has shifted. The girl cock has gone mainstream.
"That surprises me, I've always assumed the majority of healthy young organs came from men who died in motorcycle crashes and the like."
I suspect women are more likely to tick the "donate organs" box, or maybe there's some weird psychological things with body integrity that families have in deciding to donate the organs of a female loved one vs a male one?
"Aromantic asexuals"
Honestly there's a combination of not everyone is going to experience the lurch of sexual attraction as a teen, being surrounded by uggos they've grown up with (so many "asexual" acquaintances suddenly became sexual if they stepped out of their nerd friend group of people they'd known since kindergarden), and it's a good "out" if you don't want boypussy or girldick or the LBGTQA to bully you for being a boring cissy
Honestly there's a combination of not everyone is going to experience the lurch of sexual attraction as a teen, being surrounded by uggos they've grown up with (so many "asexual" acquaintances suddenly became sexual if they stepped out of their nerd friend group of people they'd known since kindergarden), and it's a good "out" if you don't want boypussy or girldick or the LBGTQA to bully you for being a boring cissy
I know its been said before, but this concept still baffles me every time it pops up.If were to believe in the whole "Man trapped inside a woman's body and vice versa."why aren't scientists trying to find evidence for any of these other biological constructs?Its so weird how the trans community is against something like a white man who thinks he's black because you'd think that such a think would make people believe in transgenderism more, but no.Apparently they only want people to believe biological sex is the exception.
They appeal(ed) to this in a vague way for a long time, and will keep doing so where they can, but then idiots like Long Chu say the quiet part out loud to the greater public about how really it shouldn’t matter if they’re a kid or too dumb to understand bc everyone is fair game for grooming.
People are sympathetic to the idea of there being a biological basis, so they jacked that from the LGB for as long as it was convenient. It also assuages the doubts of foolish young people who want to know why offering troonism at the doctor is even on the table to begin with, so you’re adding to your numbers and crippling the opposition at the same time. Of course, those supposed brain scans and blood tests and comprehensive psychological questionnaires will never happen. They’re just a smokescreen for the semblance of good practice. No one gives a shit, any potential victim is a good one.
Some homophobes think it’s wrong to act on homosexual feelings, but that the person really can’t change, and should forgo sex/romantic relationships in service to god/morality. If being trans is innate (it’s not bc we have no evidence for any of these claims, just “I always knew” which is unfalsifiable, but even still admitted to be a lie by many troons themselves), then troons are victims of their own bodies. If it is a choice, their raison d'être evaporates, their victim complex falls apart, all the cries of genocide and oppression are rendered moot, bc it becomes eminently obvious that they are simply choosing to be histrionic sex pests literally coming for your kids and banging on women’s locker room doors.
I don't understand the point of putting pronouns in the bio instead of "man or woman", even pronouns are used more than saying "I am troon male/female". Even if someone lies about being "cis" they will resort to using pronouns. How I hate seeing pronouns in bio.
I don't understand the point of putting pronouns in the bio instead of "man or woman", even pronouns are used more than saying "I am troon male/female". Even if someone lies about being "cis" they will resort to using pronouns. How I hate seeing pronouns in bio.
The idea is to trick soyboys and manic pixie dream girls into putting pronouns in bio, to then eventually peer pressure everyone into doing it. For now, they can see who their most dogmatic allies are. The end game is to "normalize" pronouns in bio and for it to not be a tell when they're bluffing.
I fucking hate trannies so much. It's the one protected class that is both completely voluntary and also totally packed to the brim with manipulative narcissists.
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