Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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I have no sympathy for gays who want children, they shouldn't be raising a child, whether they can have them naturally(lesbos) or need to rent a womb. The concept of the family has been destroyed in favor of some amorphous grouping that provides no structure or stability for the CHILD whom the family structure is primarily in place ffor. As it stands most children are robbed of any chance of having a normal and healthy family life, but those raised by gays get an extra helping of horrendous developmental impediments.
 
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Not sure which thread this is more suitable for but I got this email from one of my professors yesterday. I'm honestly kinda surprised. Unless there's a transitioning to a corpse or something.
 
A strange and blackpilling phenomenon to look out for on Twitter: if you know a leftist trans ally with a small-to-medium following, search their tweets for mentions of gender/trans/terf/non-binary. Look at the replies to witness someone in 2018 make a reasonable observation like "are you sure the TERF label isn't an attempt to silence feminist women deemed guilty of wrongthink" or "I will give someone the benefit of the doubt if they are concerned about trans kid charities being too liberal in giving out breast binders or recommending puberty blockers". Then search that person's tweets to find they have capitulated and now have pronouns in bio and sperg about transphobic bigots.

The opposite of peaking. Troughing?
My experience with this kind of person is that they're teenagers or in a confused stage of their life when this process starts to happen, and most of them begin to identify as trans shortly after they become trans activists. It's simply the brainwashing technique of taking advantage of vulnerable people, convincing them that troons are magical and their life's problems will be fixed by transitioning.

It's much more rare that a person remains as a cis ally. Allies are constantly blamed for their privilege and scolded for not doing enough for the oppressed group. Only self-hating, masochistic people willingly stay in that position. Everyone else either adopts the powerful identities in their system of intersectionality ("anyone who identifies as trans is trans") or leaves the ideology entirely.

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Your sister probably loves you and is trying in the nicest way possible to make you realize the mistake you're making.
This post in the Tranny Ls thread provoked my thunks. Does any psychiatric therapy system exist that advises people whether they should troon out or not without having an ideal outcome in mind and forcing all patients to that outcome? In "informed consent" places, they'll say that all of their patients are trans, while the "therapy" most Stinkditch posters advocate for is really just telling people that nobody is trans. While I don't know the Reddit OOP's situation and am not commenting on it, the sister is already convinced that OOP is not trans and is asking unwinnable questions. Questions like "why do you want a feminine body?" don't have a correct answer that would prove OOP is trans. If OOP says that female bodies are attractive they get told they're AGP, if OOP says that women are treated better they're a misogynist, and if OOP says "I just want one" they get written off as not having a good reason. What is the neutral way to question this that doesn't force someone into one of the two outcomes from the way the questions are formulated then?
 
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people who argue that plastic surgery is “just gender affirmation for cis people” are actually saying that a woman who conforms to patriarchal beauty standards is more of a woman in their eyes than one who does not

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When discussing gender ideology with people, I have found it much more effective to just play dumb.

"I've heard TERFs say "what is a woman", what are they asking, it's obvious what a woman is right? Lol"

Then they will explain what a TERF means by that. I ask them, "and what is your usual response?".

They tell me identifying as a woman. I pretend to not understand them, "what do you mean by that? / what does that mean?".

They will maybe go around in circles here until they settle on some sexist stereotypes.

"But isn't that kinda sexist? / but don't not all women do that?"

So on so forth.

People are much more likely to actually follow the path of their own ideology down to its faulty roots if they think they're helping bring you over to their side. I actually used to do this first at my christian school with those trying to convert.

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I don’t think we talk enough about how causal the relationship might be between suicidality and a trans identity, and not the other way around.

It seems to me that some suicidal people are attracted to transition as a method of symbolic suicide. The whole modern method is an exercise in throwing yourself away. Your old name is dead. You get to demand people eliminate or alter all photographic or documented evidence of your former life, from your parents to the government. You’re promised a different face, a different body. A new ID. New spaces. Your parents are abusing and rejecting you if they still think about the old you. Most importantly, your hatred of yourself is validated. You were right to hate yourself— of course you did when you were born wrong! Your self-hatred is now some strange new axis of activism, where what you hated was imposed upon you by people you now get to fight. The old self is hated and eliminated to be replaced by a shallow cutout of stereotyped whimsy. By believing that men and women are so deeply and fundamentally different, you are promised transition into something other than human. Hormone injections shall transform you into a different creature that doesn't even think the way you thought. Women are whimsical creatures that do nothing but shop and preen and it’s an asset to be brainless. Men are formless blobs where it’s normal not to care about anything or anyone, just sit around growing a beer gut all day, and that’s totally not a mutation created by patriarchy, it’s just normal and fulfilling when you’re a man. Nothing like the old you that had expectations, responsibilities, needs, and desires.

The very nature of today's terminally online trans identity scoops up the already suicidal. And it all becomes a great surprise that morale goes through the floor once the procedures are done and the dream of inhumanity vanishes.



I believe it’s very appealing to people who are mentally ill, abused, victims of assault, etc, yes. Especially with the increasing rhetoric of gender dysphoria being sold as a cure-all treatment. The whole concept is very easy to imagine a vulnerable person using as a way to scapegoat their issues. People who have been hurt in some way will do drastic things to feel like they have control of their body and how others see them again. New pronouns means you get to be on someone’s mind, and you feel some control over how they see you. The whole act of changing your name, finding a new wardrobe, cutting your hair, etc- this is all something you can do anytime, but a trans identity gives it new meaning and importance. Even the language around it is incredibly appealing and revealing- your dead name. Your gender journey. You’re gender diverse. Gender expansive. Of course that’s going to appeal to someone who wants to belong. Someone who’s looking for someone to care. I think it’s important to stress as well that this doesn’t mean the people caught up in it are idiotic or brainwashed. They’re human beings. A lot of the backlash against the idea that this is a social trend is because of the idea that if it is, that means that the people in it are easily tricked or fooled. Or that the suffering they’ve attached to the trans identity in some way is now illegitimate. But that’s not the case at all. Human psychology is complex. The suffering is real. The feelings are real. “Social trend” does not mean that the people caught up in it are all liars or their feelings are frivolous. “Attention seeking” does not mean manipulative or cruel. I wish the trans community could acknowledge this. I wish they could acknowledge how appealing their movement can seem, and how dangerous it can be.
 
I have no sympathy for gays who want children, they shouldn't be raising a child, whether they can have them naturally(lesbos) or need to rent a womb. The concept of the family has been destroyed in favor of some amorphous grouping that provides no structure or stability for the CHILD whom the family structure is primarily in place ffor. As it stands most children are robbed of any chance of having a normal and healthy family life, but those raised by gays get an extra helping of horrendous developmental impediments.

And that's not even getting into the possible molestation if the child is a boy.
 
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people who argue that plastic surgery is “just gender affirmation for cis people”
They're missing the real point: it's out of pocket.

Bunch of nominal Commies can't understand that it should be either free psychologically-necessary tit toggle for everyone, or private pay for everyone. Some animals are more equal than others.
 
Here's a question to ask.How do leftists (who are usually anti capitalist)not see the money being funded by pro trans organizations into major pharmaceutical companies, and major medical organizations to back transitioning kids as capitalism on steroids?We have tons of evidence that major medical orgs are making a fortune off of all of this, and yet none of these supposedly "anti capitalist" leftist find that suspicious?Were suppose to believe these are greedy organizations that benefit from capitalism when it comes to other things, but suddenly when it comes to trans people its all "These places truly care about their well being, and want to help suicidal people."Really?
 
I wonder what would happen if a troon took something like LSD or Ayahuasca? Would it force them to confront their lies and delusions, or would they double down and find a way to use their trip as proof that their troon self is their true self? Inspired by several "LSD made me gay" posts I saw on Reddit.
 
Here's a question to ask.How do leftists (who are usually anti capitalist)not see the money being funded by pro trans organizations into major pharmaceutical companies, and major medical organizations to back transitioning kids as capitalism on steroids?We have tons of evidence that major medical orgs are making a fortune off of all of this, and yet none of these supposedly "anti capitalist" leftist find that suspicious?Were suppose to believe these are greedy organizations that benefit from capitalism when it comes to other things, but suddenly when it comes to trans people its all "These places truly care about their well being, and want to help suicidal people."Really?
Because anything related to trans medication is life saving. This is like funding cures for cancers to them, or prosthetics for those who lost limbs, except it's curing self hatred and supplying cock chops. It makes perfect sense if trans healthcare is life saving, which it is to them but not us.
 
All the hags became pooners. Fat whiny bints have managed to become even more entitled and now demand that their gay best friends have sex with them.
 
Here's a question to ask.How do leftists (who are usually anti capitalist)not see the money being funded by pro trans organizations into major pharmaceutical companies, and major medical organizations to back transitioning kids as capitalism on steroids?We have tons of evidence that major medical orgs are making a fortune off of all of this, and yet none of these supposedly "anti capitalist" leftist find that suspicious?Were suppose to believe these are greedy organizations that benefit from capitalism when it comes to other things, but suddenly when it comes to trans people its all "These places truly care about their well being, and want to help suicidal people."Really?
I'm not as involved in leftist spaces as I used to be. But I think the logic is that socialism/communism is about helping the oppressed. Trans people are oppressed, therefore helping them (in this context meaning giving them whatever they want) is good.
 
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Not sure which thread this is more suitable for but I got this email from one of my professors yesterday. I'm honestly kinda surprised. Unless there's a transitioning to a corpse or something.

The lack of specificity makes this read more like "transition" is being used as a euphemism for death. As in, he transitioned to the other side. It's sort of spiritual and old-fashioned but I've seen it used before.

I wonder what would happen if a troon took something like LSD or Ayahuasca? Would it force them to confront their lies and delusions, or would they double down and find a way to use their trip as proof that their troon self is their true self? Inspired by several "LSD made me gay" posts I saw on Reddit.

Maybe it works both ways? Back when I used to run in those circles, I was aware of multiple people who decided to transition after an experience with psychedelics (including one guy who was open about his issues w/ gender and was hounded by trannies trying to convert him until he had some sort of "epiphany" while tripping balls). OTOH, I've also read stories of detransers -- on this forum and elsewhere -- for whom an experience with LSD or somesuch served as the catalyst for their detransition. It seems like psychedelics just reform certain connections in your brain, for better or for worse, and what you get out of them heavily depends on your mindset going in. Perhaps someone who's actually done them could expand on that.
 
The lack of specificity makes this read more like "transition" is being used as a euphemism for death. As in, he transitioned to the other side. It's sort of spiritual and old-fashioned but I've seen it used before.
I was wondering about that. I've been so current-year brain broken that transition only seems to mean that to me anymore
 
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I was wondering about that. I've been so current-year brain broken that transition only seems to mean that to me anymore
I've seen that phrasing in death announcements too, usually when someone has been updating on a family member's decline for a long time and it was expected and peaceful, and usually religious. Usually there's more context than that, but your professor might have just been copy-pasting from something longer as they updated every single person who needed to be updated.

Or they're burning all the troon's photos on the backyard BBQ; you'd have to stalk them a bit to get more clues.
 
I wondered something, and this is the best thread I could think to ask in.

What was the overall teenage-young adult suicide rate before this mass acceptance of trans identities?

Has there been any evidence that it’s declined?

The oft claimed justification for transitioning is that alleged trans kids will kill themselves if they don’t get their “life saving” treatments and surgeries has never sat well with me.

Especially as there are also claims of a high rate of suicide in post operative trans people.

It’s like, either it doesn’t work, or these people would kill themselves sooner or later and having a massive surgery removing healthy body parts and organs has just accelerated the inevitable.
The fact that they blame kiwifarms and JK Rowling for causing suicides with mean words indicates that these people are probably going to suicide as soon as anything upsets them.

Of course this is just me speculating idly, but so far I haven’t seen any firm evidence that the suicide rate has decreased.

If anything, it’s increased, which begs the question, is it gender dysphoria or is it another side effect of modern society with its resulting easier lives for more of the population?
 
Actually on Times radio today, the presenters were remarking that there is a turning of the tide and things like puberty blockers and fast track to surgeries are not being prescribed so readily.
I know of this. I'm all for it, at the expense of sounding (somehow) like a Nazi.
 
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