Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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The violent rhetoric from troons lately feels different, and it's really concerning. I don't know how to describe it, they've always had this "punch a TERF" shittalking they do but lately they've been fucking unhinged, especially since that school shooting. I think they're sensing the tide changing, they've lost a lot in a very short time: laws being passed, medical institutions being exposed, public perception rapidly shifting, sports bans, mainstream media "misgendering" the shooter making it crystal clear that "passing" is just societal politeness, nobody giving a damn about their Hogwarts Legacy freakout, meanwhile the Bud Light boycott actually did numbers, people talking more about harassment done by troons, Twitter dropping its misgendering rule, etc. Been a rough start to 2023 if you're a troon.

I feel like we're going to see a spike in random acts of violence from trannies sooner than later as they desperately try to claw onto the power they've had over the last ten or so years. They cannot handle a society that isn't compelled and coerced into playing their game, and they will demand it by force if they have to.

 

[doodoocaca]

Late teens/adults: trans is the new "valid bisexual in a straight relationship"
Middle teens: trans is the new emo/goth
Kids: trans is the new Indigo Children

I don't know if anyone is still talking about Indigo Children in this day and age, but I wonder if it would help wake up people in the lifelong ed biz to remind them about it.

That is spot fucking on. Imma add to it.

It's occurred to me that one's social personhood, at least in woke and retarded spaces, consists of a really, really retarded performance of one's personal feelings toward what one wants to be seen as (gender, leftist values, etc) and who one wants to fuck. That everything else has fallen by the wayside to be replaced with what was just simping for GSMs (gender-sexual minorities, you know, what everyone pretends to be now for cred), that everyone has to take it up personally, is honestly funny in a weird way.

It's the logical conclusion of philosophically painting yourself in a corner. Privilege bad, ableism bad, so talking about achievements or personal endurance is just a no-no. The only pride one can have is demographic association with a group defined by something inherently sexual, don't cha know? Can't think for yourself or stand up for values against the group, so you have to just bleat whatever the talking heads on a laptop tablet or TV told you to say. Can't be straight, but if you don't even want to kiss the same sex you can just call yourself 'queer' and be 0.001% fab or futch, once, allegedly, and you now have the flag of convenience.

Liberalism has gone so far off the rails with atomization and victim-or-victimizer that the only thing left is to claim victimhood vis-a-vis nebulously not being a victimizer by being straight.

Fucking lol.

EDIT:
Another thing I've noticed, care of the gaydens, is that transshit has done nothing about social expectations based on sex. Yanno, 'gender' before it become just a mutable proxy for sex? Look at FtMs. Look at how they complain about how hard it is being a man, never mind a manlet. Nevermind being told they mansplain or are privileged by the tumblr-crowd and those infected by it.

Look at how the problems they face if they pass are the very things that made many MtFs transition in the first place. Nothing has been done for boys or men who 'fail'.

Look at how those young women are asking for help, as women are wont to do. Look at how they're given it, commensurate with how attractive they are after detrooning, which is what society just tends to do.

Look at Chloe Cole vs KC Miller.

Congratulations, gender-fucks! You've recreated the very same system with extra steps and a level of abstraction. You've proven the point and in a way proven how intractable it is. Also, grats, you proved that even when it comes to butchered, betrayed young women, we only care if they're still attractive.

Not sure why, but that little detail really, really pisses me off. All this shit for the past generation and what have we learned? A woman's measure is if she's pretty, a man's is if he's powerful.

 

[Real Mayun]

LBGT? MTF? YBISDTYA25

 

[SIMIΔN]

It’s just tragic to see young people in the prime of physical beauty hacking themselves into frankenstein monsters. People, that small window doesn’t last long. As an ageing man, who misses those years, I get pissed off. Youth is wasted on the young etc…

This, and not just women, gym chads destroy themselves over lies.

 

[AMHOLIO]

This, and not just women, gym chads destroy themselves over lies.

Body builders have body dysmorphia problems they hate talking about. I know some parts of the community try their best to encourage their fellow man to seek help, but it's a hard thing to get anyone to do.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

Body builders have body dysmorphia problems they hate talking about. I know some parts of the community try their best to encourage their fellow man to seek help, but it's a hard thing to get anyone to do.

Makes a lot of sense when you think about it. No wonder dudes who are devoted to chasing after an unattainable ideal body are trooning out in droves. It's much easier for them to just take some magic pills than to maintain their obsessive exercise routines or (god forbid) seek actual psychiatric help. Unfortunately, there's still a real lack of awareness when it comes to body dysmorphia in guys which prevents them from realising when something is wrong.

 

[Inside your walls]

This is a very miscellaneous thought, but I often come back to it because I think it's extremely poetic.

Without powerleveling too much, I went to a course in order to get a diploma for a job I want to do where I would work with pets. This course was ran
by a veterinarian who was in the vet industry for 30 years and maybe even more.

She would tell me all types of trivia regarding animals but one thing that stuck out to me the most was her explanation about why dogs tend to attack castrated/spayed dogs, even female ones. Basically it all comes down to this, once a dog gets castrated/spayed they lose the scent that helps other dogs tell wherever they're male or female and since dogs tend to be scent oriented, once they sniff a dog that's spayed/castrated, the castrated/spayed dog's scent is something in-between male and female, extremely alienating, uncanny and unknown which activates their flight or fight response because this is something abnormal to them, and when the animals are scared of the unknown their first response to it is to attack it.

The vet lady telling me this, reminded me of all the posts I'd see from reddit written by troons about how their "bigoted" dogs or other pets turned hostile against them once they started taking estrogen or other alternating things. The reason I find this piece of info poetic is because no matter how much troons and especially enbies try to push this idea how trying to be something beyond male and female is ""hecking powerful and natural"", Mother Nature/God/Whatever force is out there literally goes "No u" by giving almost every animal that depends on scent the same universal vitriolic response/reaction to these people.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

The only trannies I feel bad for are the ones who know it's a mental illness and truly seem to want to get on with their lives. It sucks. They have some sort of neurological disorder that we aren't yet sophisticated enough to blow away with the right cocktail of medication and therapy, and the medical industry has invented the barbaric process of trooning out as a horribly flawed "solution".

Tranny says, "yes, I have a mental disorder. It's painful and it haunts me every day. I don't want to troon out because I know how much it fucks your body up. I don't want to freak people out in the wrong bathroom, I wouldn't wish this shit on any kid, I just want to have a normal job and keep this madness away from strangers as much as I can", I'd call that a True And Honest Tranny. Hell, even if they start mainlining cross-sex hormones to help dull their issues while admitting it ruins their long-term health, it's not my disease to manage.

I think the problem with how we couldn't come up with a solution to gender dysphoria is because our society at large believes that there are no other solution. On a related note, I think we have lost our dream for the future, the imagination that believes the future will be very different from now. When this happened depends on who you ask, some say it's the fall of Soviet Union and the death of an alternative politics to neoliberalism ('End of the History'), some say it's the 2010s. We have obsession with nostalgia now because society at large had lost its goal.

I've come to think more and more that Gender Dysphoria is a culture bound syndrome rather than some legitimate "neurological disorder" that can only coped with transitioning... Because how else do you explain many cultures around the world that do not have the concept of gender identity as the west?

Trans identity came to be through industrialisation and modernisation - while the practical gender roles are becoming less rigid than traditional cultures because of it (women working in traditionally masculine jobs) - the gender roles are actually becoming more restrictive in nominative, social identity level. Modernisation came with the creation of standards, categories and classification, and it creates a rigid definition of what men and women should be like under that standard - instead of them feeling like there are nuances in self expression. Combining that with quick fix drive of modern medicine, and you get the concept of gender identity and transitioning as 'treatment' ( as opposed to as 'lifestyle' in some third world countries)

I think they're sensing the tide changing, they've lost a lot in a very short time: laws being passed, medical institutions being exposed, public perception rapidly shifting, sports bans, mainstream media "misgendering" the shooter making it crystal clear that "passing" is just societal politeness, nobody giving a damn about their Hogwarts Legacy freakout, meanwhile the Bud Light boycott actually did numbers, people talking more about harassment done by troons, Twitter dropping its misgendering rule, etc. Been a rough start to 2023 if you're a troon.

I feel like we're going to see a spike in random acts of violence from trannies sooner than later as they desperately try to claw onto the power they've had over the last ten or so years. They cannot handle a society that isn't compelled and coerced into playing their game, and they will demand it by force if they have to.

I don't know if this is an optimistic take or pessimistic take... I hope the tide is changing, but the whole thing seems too big to fail at this point. I don't think the public debate are actually going to the root cause of a lot of problems that spawned trans activism. (Other other societal malaises today)

Look at Chloe Cole vs KC Miller.

Congratulations, gender-fucks! You've recreated the very same system with extra steps and a level of abstraction. You've proven the point and in a way proven how intractable it is. Also, grats, you proved that even when it comes to butchered, betrayed young women, we only care if they're still attractive.

Yeah, I noticed that too. That FtM detransitioners are only celebrated if they still look attractive. I also noted that there is this logic shared by some people who are adjacent to the culture discourse. Those people tend to see 'High Effort FtMs' as the only legitimate type of transgender people, because they cannot see 'ugly women' as women at all. These people tend to also see all MtFs is illegitimate. I dislike this way of thinking a lot, but it's curious indeed.

I personally think this fuelled a lot of detransitioners "too late to detransition" mindset. It's like these people see sex as disembodiment characteristic, instead of a combination to a whole.

 

[realitysurf]

It's much easier for them to just take some magic pills than to maintain their obsessive exercise routines or (god forbid) seek actual psychiatric help.

This makes no sense to me. Why would these men troon out on bad steroids instead of taking anabolic steroids? Maybe it's seen as a safer way out?

 

[Doktor Grimm]

This makes no sense to me. Why would these men troon out on bad steroids instead of taking anabolic steroids? Maybe it's seen as a safer way out?

I'm no bodybuilder (quite the opposite, I'd blow over in a stiff breeze) but I think it comes down to the perception of each drug. If you take steroids you're a cheater and endangering yourself, but if you declare yourself a troon and take hormones you're stunning and brave. These guys need validation more than anything.

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

I think that a lot of trans critics spread misogyny and misandry towards non-trans people without even realizing.

For example, criticism towards MTFs. Even if you are directly criticizing someone who's trans, you are indirectly being Misandric by implying that all men are dangerous and everything they do is for sex, or for fetishistic reasons.
Or, FTMs. They are infantilized in a way that feels weirdly Misogynistic. For example, most say that all of them are silly women who don't know what they are talking or doing with themselves. Or that they have been traumatized, touched, and that's why they are weird.

Basically, you are being sexist towards your own sex without even realizing.
If you are a man, a TERF would probably say that same thing about you if they had the chance to, and if you are a woman, many guys would also treat you in the same way as they do with FTMs.

That however, does not absolve lolcows like Kevin Gibes or Keffals, it just feels kinda sexist.

 

[Jacques1194]

The violent rhetoric from troons lately feels different, and it's really concerning. I don't know how to describe it, they've always had this "punch a TERF" shittalking they do but lately they've been fucking unhinged, especially since that school shooting. I think they're sensing the tide changing, they've lost a lot in a very short time: laws being passed, medical institutions being exposed, public perception rapidly shifting, sports bans, mainstream media "misgendering" the shooter making it crystal clear that "passing" is just societal politeness, nobody giving a damn about their Hogwarts Legacy freakout, meanwhile the Bud Light boycott actually did numbers, people talking more about harassment done by troons, Twitter dropping its misgendering rule, etc. Been a rough start to 2023 if you're a troon.

I feel like we're going to see a spike in random acts of violence from trannies sooner than later as they desperately try to claw onto the power they've had over the last ten or so years. They cannot handle a society that isn't compelled and coerced into playing their game, and they will demand it by force if they have to.

TBH i'll only believe it if a major leftist political figure comes out and says"Enough!This is wrong".Sadly, though if biden wins the 2024 election then he's just going to continue doubling down on trans rhetoric for the next 4 years after the 2024 election.Heck even if someone like trump wins the election, leftist will just double down and say like i said"We only lost because of transphobia".The only way for transgenderism as an ideology falls is if they become more violent and aggressive towards leftist, but even then leftist have shown how stubborn they are with trans ideology.Literally a FtM killed children and the left double down on "Trans rights!".

 

[gorororo]

Normie boomers are becoming increasingly aware of tranny degeneracy. I was talking to my mom and she brought up the frozen-tomato-paste-to-fake-a-period thing. I pretended it was the first I'd heard of it and suggested it was a fetish thing and she said that was her first thought too.
I hope it's a sign of the pendulum starting to swing back. So far the "live and let live" attitude is what's allowed trannyism to fester. But I hope that will change as normies figure out how gross and abnormal trannies really are.

 

[LimeRikki]

I posted this in the jazz thread a while back but these surgeries have a great deal of scarring.



Not for everyone, but for some people they can wind up having long term pain from their scars due to the weather, when the scar tissue expands or contracts.



I guess what I'm really asking is Do you think trannies have a good built in "Storm's a comin'" dectector post SRS?

"Hey Gaydain, the scars where they tried to reattach my mutilated penis head clit are aching, feels like hails coming. Can you check the weather?"

 

[Mad_Dog]

I posted this in the jazz thread a while back but these surgeries have a great deal of scarring.



Not for everyone, but for some people they can wind up having long term pain from their scars due to the weather, when the scar tissue expands or contracts.



I guess what I'm really asking is Do you think trannies have a good built in "Storm's a comin'" dectector post SRS?

"Hey Gaydain, the scars where they tried to reattach my mutilated penis head clit are aching, feels like hails coming. Can you check the weather?"

"Is that a barometric pressure gauge in your pants or are you happy to see me?"
"Both"

 

[Inside your walls]

Normie boomers are becoming increasingly aware of tranny degeneracy. I was talking to my mom and she brought up the frozen-tomato-paste-to-fake-a-period thing. I pretended it was the first I'd heard of it and suggested it was a fetish thing and she said that was her first thought too.
I hope it's a sign of the pendulum starting to swing back. So far the "live and let live" attitude is what's allowed trannyism to fester. But I hope that will change as normies figure out how gross and abnormal trannies really are.

People here tend to say normies get easily persuaded into believing the idea of "Trans people want to be like us and just live as themselves" but underestimate how easily some of them can get peaked with just simply just seeing a tranny in its natural habitat (being a deranged perverted histrionic narcissist) or just having to interact with them once with their brain giving them "Get the fuck away from this person" alert , first interactions/impressions are an extremely powerful thing.

I think the main issue however is that most normies who were warned about trannies suffer from "It's not my problem until it arrives on my doormat" mentality or the worse and optimistic mentality of "Wow, many individiuals got fucked by this group but I won't get fucked by them because I am a lucky good boy/girl", and what were seeing now is the problem arriving at their doormat taking full swing.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

This is a very miscellaneous thought, but I often come back to it because I think it's extremely poetic.

Without powerleveling too much, I went to a course in order to get a diploma for a job I want to do where I would work with pets. This course was ran
by a veterinarian who was in the vet industry for 30 years and maybe even more.

She would tell me all types of trivia regarding animals but one thing that stuck out to me the most was her explanation about why dogs tend to attack castrated/spayed dogs, even female ones. Basically it all comes down to this, once a dog gets castrated/spayed they lose the scent that helps other dogs tell wherever they're male or female and since dogs tend to be scent oriented, once they sniff a dog that's spayed/castrated, the castrated/spayed dog's scent is something in-between male and female, extremely alienating, uncanny and unknown which activates their flight or fight response because this is something abnormal to them, and when the animals are scared of the unknown their first response to it is to attack it.

The vet lady telling me this, reminded me of all the posts I'd see from reddit written by troons about how their "bigoted" dogs or other pets turned hostile against them once they started taking estrogen or other alternating things. The reason I find this piece of info poetic is because no matter how much troons and especially enbies try to push this idea how trying to be something beyond male and female is ""hecking powerful and natural"", Mother Nature/God/Whatever force is out there literally goes "No u" by giving almost every animal that depends on scent the same universal vitriolic response/reaction to these people.

This is an interesting thought. There is a whole thread about based transphobic animals somewhere in this forum. My dog vehemently hates troons. She barks at them with her "serious threat" bark and not the usual "who the hell are you" bark. The same one she used on a violent hobo I had to chase out of our hedge after he kept trying to follow my neighbor to her car.

I posted this in the jazz thread a while back but these surgeries have a great deal of scarring.



Not for everyone, but for some people they can wind up having long term pain from their scars due to the weather, when the scar tissue expands or contracts.



I guess what I'm really asking is Do you think trannies have a good built in "Storm's a comin'" dectector post SRS?

"Hey Gaydain, the scars where they tried to reattach my mutilated penis head clit are aching, feels like hails coming. Can you check the weather?"

We know a lot about chronic neuropathic pain from mastectomy, due to decades of research on cancer patients. It can be disabling. Less is known about the kind of chronic pain that results from "bottom surgery" because there was never a legit reason to be doing any of that and research about troons that shows carving them up is a bad thing is forbidden. But you can extrapolate.

 

[pursuitsnail]

This is just dumb sperg, because nothing about gender ideology makes any kind of sense when you think about it longer than two seconds:

It bothered me that a lot of online atheists fell into it. Regardless of what you think about atheists or atheism, it's a claim about the nature and origin of the world: that there is/are no god/gods. It usually follows from there (but not always) that all of existence came about through natural processes, no magic involved. There's no soul or spirit, and the mind is an emergent property of biology.

It also bothers me that we see so many TRAs/troons who claim to be socialist or communist. These are materialist views that deal with how oppression and wealth flow along with power in societies and economies. They don't explicitly reject religion or spirituality, but gods don't really enter into it except for the wealth, power, and influence that religious institutions have.

Both of these are.. well, concerned with material reality. This world is the one that matters to them. But they both seem to have been caught up in a sort-of religion that promises impossibilities that you can only believe could really happen if you've disconnected with yourself as a flesh and blood human. There can be no utopia, sex can never be changed, the soul is an illusion, and there will be no judge to validate your choices at the end of history.

So why this belief in an unprovable gendered soul? Seems like an atheist wouldn't give the idea more than half a thought normally. The fuck does dudes shooting up estrogen and soaking in futa porn even have to do with socialism anyway? It's all so flimsy.

 

[AMHOLIO]

This makes no sense to me. Why would these men troon out on bad steroids instead of taking anabolic steroids? Maybe it's seen as a safer way out?

My additional guess is that they want the stunning and brave woman attention and sadly they might have jerked themselves off into a fetish. Troons might be less competitive than bodybuilders too, I have't been around bodybuilders but men can get into competition over exercise and can shame others more easily than troonism is one of my guesses. The bar for entry is so low.

The same one she used on a violent hobo I had to chase out of our hedge after he kept trying to follow my neighbor to her car.

Good dog.

It bothered me that a lot of online atheists fell into it.

I enjoy the fact that you laid out critical, logical thinking and gave good reasons not to believe in it. But how many atheists do the same?

How many atheist fell into atheism not because they thought it over, but because the church or god scorned them? How many atheist decided it would be a great "fuck you mom" moment? How many joined because they didn't really have soild beliefs earlier, but they're in the STEM field and all their friends are atheist and it sounds smart so hey why not become one? It's a weird thing to think about, but even rational and logical based ideas have people joining them because of emotional ideas or a sense of belonging. It's easy to walk through the motions sometimes without realizing it.

So why this belief in an unprovable gendered soul? Seems like an atheist wouldn't give the idea more than half a thought normally.

It might be like homosexuals to them where they think it has a biological thing attached, but they don't get challenged by troons who hate the transmed explanation so they never think it over. They might fear being ejected from their atheists groups if they say anything against troons, because being a hateful bigot means you're christian (what a lot rebel against) and nerds have just as much social anxiety as other people.

The fuck does dudes shooting up estrogen and soaking in futa porn even have to do with socialism anyway? It's all so flimsy.

If someone could trace back the origins of futa + communism + reddit I'd give them money for the feat. It's like a bunch of NEETs were burned by working or functioning in the real world, came up with pseudointellectual reasons to support communism along with a version that lets them not work, and the porn was incidental since reddit has tons of porn threads and they jack off when they're not working.

 

[Sir Joahim Browinson III]

It also bothers me that we see so many TRAs/troons who claim to be socialist or communist. These are materialist views that deal with how oppression and wealth flow along with power in societies and economies. They don't explicitly reject religion or spirituality, but gods don't really enter into it except for the wealth, power, and influence that religious institutions have.

Both of these are.. well, concerned with material reality. This world is the one that matters to them. But they both seem to have been caught up in a sort-of religion that promises impossibilities that you can only believe could really happen if you've disconnected with yourself as a flesh and blood human. There can be no utopia, sex can never be changed, the soul is an illusion, and there will be no judge to validate your choices at the end of history.

So why this belief in an unprovable gendered soul? Seems like an atheist wouldn't give the idea more than half a thought normally. The fuck does dudes shooting up estrogen and soaking in futa porn even have to do with socialism anyway? It's all so flimsy.

They don't actually belive in socialism or communism. They belive in Social Democracy aka "Government, give me free shit now!" idea, which is a diet version of socialism that is safe for financial elites.
If you try to convince them to go actual Marxist-Leninist route they will go full Vaush and go on about "muh tankies" and will be repeating the same old anti-commie takes.

If we are to look at them from the materialistic lense we would conclude that LGBT is in a fact a byproduct of society that lives in excess, specifically the higher social struts that can afford living a consumerist lifestyle. Obviously there's no such thing as middle class in proper communist society, so LGBT cannot really prosper there, unlike in liberal democracies who specifically rely on middle class citizens to keep society just stable enough to not be abolished.

Why do TRAs are communists? They are not, it's just another larp they do because they hate rich people (despite being enabled by them comstantly). Those who are a little bit honest usually stick to anarchism.