Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Jacques1194]

Sorry if this was posted, but does anyone have links between being trans and having other psychological issues?I know there's a strong connection between gender dysphoria, and autism, but i'm talking other mental illness.For example, there's 3 TIFs i know.One has an eating disorder where she can't consume 90% of food because it upsets her stomach.Another TIF i know confessed that apart from having autism she also has schizophrenia.The last TIF i don't know much about because she's private about her life.I'll say that there was this TIP i knew who self identified as a xenogender that was dyslexic and had this weird obsession with putting a star in front of every sentence they made.Also they'd go on a berserk rant whenever someone asked them why he would do that.How do these people not make the connection that their problems have to do with their other disorders?

 

[Lady Bizness]

Sorry if this was posted, but does anyone have links between being trans and having other psychological issues?I know there's a strong connection between gender dysphoria, and autism, but i'm talking other mental illness.For example, there's 3 TIFs i know.One has an eating disorder where she can't consume 90% of food because it upsets her stomach.Another TIF i know confessed that apart from having autism she also has schizophrenia.The last TIF i don't know much about because she's private about her life.I'll say that there was this TIP i knew who self identified as a xenogender that was dyslexic and had this weird obsession with putting a star in front of every sentence they made.Also they'd go on a berserk rant whenever someone asked them why he would do that.How do these people not make the connection that their problems have to do with their other disorders?

Because they're mental. I'm starting to realize that mental disorders may not be all that discrete per person, while the disorder itself can be described discretely. If you've got one issue because your pathways in your brain are weird, you probably have a few other issues too. Additionally I think the women you're describing have symptoms that are definitely tranny adjacent.

 

[Aunt Carol]

TIP i knew who self identified as a xenogender that was dyslexic and had this weird obsession with putting a star in front of every sentence they made.

I smell Homestuck

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I'm going to rephrase your question for you: "Why haven't these autists who are easily influenced by people they trust developed any sort of self awareness on this issues, even though self awareness isn't what they're famous for?"

You do the math now.

Well, yeah. We can talk all day about "accommodation" and "inclusivity" but then you gotta realize that at the end of the day, it's not merely a different neurotype or "operating system," but an actual disability. One that makes it easier for predators, especially the LGBTQP community, to take advantage of.

The only real strengths that come from autism are the other mental faculties that are heightened in order to compensate for what they lack.

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

 

[sheepworldvizor]

The beach is the best possible environment to expose a troon.
There’s nowhere to hide in a bikini. There’s no way to pass walking down to the water.
It’s as if God said: Let there be an environment with no lies.

And a sunny beach appeared.

 

[Roland TB-303]

Being online exposes us to more degeneracy involving gender goblins and troons compared to the average folk. People who only use the internet for finding recipes or fashion tips or to do their online banking only know about troons through mainstream media or astroturfed and artificially boosted social media which are either neutral or positive for the most part. I’ve noticed a few of my offline friends have started to talk about the tranny menace and how it affects them personally though. If I’d bring it up before they’d be all live and let live or accuse me of being insensitive. The oppressed class has pushed things too far now and are starting to peak normies who just want to be left alone. They don’t want to be called a birthing person when pregnant at the hospital. They don’t want their children learning about anal sex from a dangerhaired teacher in primary school. They don’t want endless rainbow mafia propaganda shoved into their TV shows for seemingly no reason at all. The Sex and the City reboot had to scale it back after the huge backlash from season 1. The Bud Light saga is another obvious example. It’s refreshing to talk to people about my online spaces that have been taken away because of militant troon groups and them sympathising because they’ve had something taken away from them too. It’s refreshing to hear people from work talk about the weird tranny they saw on the weekend. It will eventually hit a point where enough is enough and the freaks will be forced back underground and I will feel some sympathy for the kids who fell for a lie and mutilated their bodies before anyone could intervene. But the porn sick weirdos make it hard for me to extend a hand much further and all I’ll be able to do is laugh at the rest of them while their enablers and handmaidens move onto the next big thing, leaving them to seethe and dilate alone. We’ll all be left to pick up the pieces and make promises to never let it happen again, but it probably will and I hope we’re around to laugh at them too.

 

[Jacques1194]

Ok so there's one thought that's annoying me about TIPs.Recently, i got into an argument with a TIP, and replied with the typical " What is a woman?" and the response was the usual "Person who identifies that way in good faith." which i found funny because now were suppose to believe that those who REALLY believe that they're women are women.His response was "I don't think it really matters what being a woman 'means' because everyone is gonna have their own definition and social concepts are always very blurred. So I just base it off what people say." Except it does fucking matter because you argued trans women are women and if you can't define it then the whole thing is meaningless.Good lord, these people claim that sex is not binary, and even go as far as saying biological sex doesn't exist, and as such want gender identity to be the only way to determine what someone truly is.Yet when gender ideologist says something like above, its hard to believe anyone can take this ideology seriously when words have no meaning anymore.

 

[OneMillionRPM]

There's a fucking eugenics program being waged against the autistic community by the medical industrial complex. By selling them "gender affirmation" and other bullshit. And they don't notice or even care.

Part of it boils down to the Geek Social Fallacies, specifically the first one, "ostracizers are evil". That's what drives nerds/autists to be accepting of anyone who joins their social group, no matter how obnoxious they are, otherwise they're an exclusionist just like those damn dirty jocks that pick(ed) on them at school. It's what made them so vulnerable to all the inclusivity bullshit and allowed the progressive stack to take hold. And of course trannies are at the top of this stack.

Many autists also have victim complexes from the way everyone treats them, so what better way to be seen as a victim and validate that complex than by trooning out?

These days I've seen a lot of non-troon autists become chasers, probably because they see them as easier to get (really easier to meet since there's no real women where they hang out) as well as "bro it's just like having a girlfriend except she never gets PMS and can't get pregnant and likes all the same male hobbies you do and blah blah blah". So of course they have a vested interest in whiteknighting for them.

 

[Ann Berlin]

I don't know who's more annoying from the terminally online MtF crowd: the overconfident middle-aged coomer or the 20-year-old doomer. The coomer looks like Shrek but sees human Fiona in the mirror, the doomer is obsessively measuring his midface and crying about his bones in general.

Both of them need to STFU and realize we are all using their pronouns as a courtesy and will always see them as men.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The beach is the best possible environment to expose a troon.
There’s nowhere to hide in a bikini. There’s no way to pass walking down to the water.
It’s as if God said: Let there be an environment with no lies.

And a sunny beach appeared.

The only problem is that they are a proven troon but worse, they are mostly naked. And the sex pest are really getting off to it.

But the porn sick weirdos make it hard for me to extend a hand much further and all I’ll be able to do is laugh at the rest of them while their enablers and handmaidens move onto the next big thing, leaving them to seethe and dilate alone.

An adult who's been warned and burned bridges over things like it isn't someone you have to feel sorry for. A child with no control is different, your judgement is fine.

We’ll all be left to pick up the pieces and make promises to never let it happen again, but it probably will and I hope we’re around to laugh at them too.

That's the most optimistic take on it coming back again.

don't think it really matters what being a woman 'means' because everyone is gonna have their own definition and social concepts are always very blurred. So I just base it off what people say."

Why can't I base it off what I say? And what if someone says they're a woman but their friend says that the person who says they're a woman is a man? What if the friend is also trans? And if the concept of "woman" doesn't matter, then does it matter we call trans women "women"? Why not just "non birthers" or "prostate people"? Or man? Doesn't matter when women isn't defined.

It ties again back to the geek social fallacies. Let's not rock the boat and we'll all stay friends and at peace, even if there is obvious problems. It's hard to confront and talk about unless you're in a place you know someone can't use your opinion to weaponize against you as "transphobic" or "terf".

I don't know who's more annoying from the terminally online MtF crowd: the overconfident middle-aged coomer or the 20-year-old doomer. The coomer looks like Shrek but sees human Fiona in the mirror, the doomer is obsessively measuring his midface and crying about his bones in general.

I get annoyed by the doomer more. The overconfident one is annoying but funny, and usually is euphoric enough they get lost in their own social bubble. It's just funny to watch a man occassionally have his bubble burst or to shrug it off and laugh at the massive irony of it.

Doomer is more annoying to me because usually their dour mood affects others. Having someone who reeeeeeees all day sucks. At least the guy who wants to fuck himself is having fun.

Both of them need to STFU and realize we are all using their pronouns as a courtesy and will always see them as men.

The doomer might realize the latter but both need to know the former. Neither will.

 

[Jacques1194]

Why can't I base it off what I say? And what if someone says they're a woman but their friend says that the person who says they're a woman is a man? What if the friend is also trans? And if the concept of "woman" doesn't matter, then does it matter we call trans women "women"? Why not just "non birthers" or "prostate people"? Or man? Doesn't matter when women isn't defined.

It ties again back to the geek social fallacies. Let's not rock the boat and we'll all stay friends and at peace, even if there is obvious problems. It's hard to confront and talk about unless you're in a place you know someone can't use your opinion to weaponize against you as "transphobic" or "terf".

I'm NGL i never really engaged with TRAs until nowadays, and sometimes wondered if i just lived in an echo chamber, but what people said here is correct.This entire movement isn't motivated by facts, science, or logic.This entire movement's strategy is basically emotional appeal and suicide baiting.Every TRA i've engaged with is the same.Starting with "trans women are women". Response "What is a women?" TRAs "Anyone who says they're a woman." Response "You can't use a circular definition to define something." TRAs "I don't care, if it makes trans people happy and prevents them from commiting suicide then i'll call them women."

 

[themarchivist2]

Something I've always wondered is how the troon community would react if someone they really hate trooned out. There are already people like Jenner, but his politics are low-profile enough where they can get away with sweeping it under the rug. There was Hale who I saw people arguing back and forth about, but reporting on her was so inconsistent that I think most people thought she was MTF to begin with, and she was out of the conversation fast enough to not leave an impact. But what do you think would happen if someone like Trump, DeSantis, Tate, Rowling, or Dear Leader himself trooned out (or publicly claimed that they were)? Would the troon community still be militant about respecting their pronouns, would they mysteriously overlook it, or would they be hypocrites and proudly misgender them out of spite?

 

[TruffleSpark]

Something I've always wondered is how the troon community would react if someone they really hate trooned out. There are already people like Jenner, but his politics are low-profile enough where they can get away with sweeping it under the rug. There was Hale who I saw people arguing back and forth about, but reporting on her was so inconsistent that I think most people thought she was MTF to begin with, and she was out of the conversation fast enough to not leave an impact. But what do you think would happen if someone like Trump, DeSantis, Tate, Rowling, or Dear Leader himself trooned out (or publicly claimed that they were)? Would the troon community still be militant about respecting their pronouns, would they mysteriously overlook it, or would they be hypocrites and proudly misgender them out of spite?

They'd probably just take it as proof that all transphobes are closet trannies.

 

[Space Police]

Something I've always wondered is how the troon community would react if someone they really hate trooned out. There are already people like Jenner, but his politics are low-profile enough where they can get away with sweeping it under the rug. There was Hale who I saw people arguing back and forth about, but reporting on her was so inconsistent that I think most people thought she was MTF to begin with, and she was out of the conversation fast enough to not leave an impact. But what do you think would happen if someone like Trump, DeSantis, Tate, Rowling, or Dear Leader himself trooned out (or publicly claimed that they were)? Would the troon community still be militant about respecting their pronouns, would they mysteriously overlook it, or would they be hypocrites and proudly misgender them out of spite?

They'd do two things: they'd either say "Someone being a bad human being is no excuse to disrespect their pronouns" or "They aren't actually trans, they're just a transphobe appropriating the struggles of the trans community for sympathy and sexual gain". Trannies do this with Chris all the time. They love to say "Chris isn't actually trans; he faked being trans to sleep with lesbians and it's all a fetish for him and acknowledging him as trans is an insult to the trans community" (even though I believe sleeping with lesbians wasn't at all the main motivator behind his transition). They only do this because he's a well-known troon who did bad things. I find it very hypocritical that they call Chris out for being a fetishist considering that most, if not all, male troons (even gay ones -- you can't tell me Blaire White doesn't have AGP) are fetishistically motivated and Chris isn't very AGP compared to your average tranime-loving r/traa user, married John 50 AGP, and tranny Discord groomer (most of the troons who say "Chris isn't actually trans" are from these groups). It's also interesting that they don't say "Chris isn't actually autistic because he uses autism as an excuse for bad behaviour" -- that just shows that trans isn't real because morality doesn't determine the validity of an actual mental/medical condition.

Another time troons did this is when the Club Q shooter came out as nonbinary. I 100% believe if that shooting wasn't a big news item for a while they latched onto to support their false claims of a tranny genocide, they would have praised the shooter for overcoming his "internalized transphobia" to come out as nonbinary. But because it was a big news thing they needed to show that there is a troon genocide, they had to go the route of "He's a transphobe who claimed non-binary for sympathy/to avoid being called out for his hate crime and he's appropriating our struggles as actual they/thems".

 

[Chickenpolar]

Something I've always wondered is how the troon community would react if someone they really hate trooned out. There are already people like Jenner, but his politics are low-profile enough where they can get away with sweeping it under the rug. There was Hale who I saw people arguing back and forth about, but reporting on her was so inconsistent that I think most people thought she was MTF to begin with, and she was out of the conversation fast enough to not leave an impact. But what do you think would happen if someone like Trump, DeSantis, Tate, Rowling, or Dear Leader himself trooned out (or publicly claimed that they were)? Would the troon community still be militant about respecting their pronouns, would they mysteriously overlook it, or would they be hypocrites and proudly misgender them out of spite?

Paul Bernardo transitioning to be moved to a women's prison would peak all or Canada.

 

[Paul Enwerdhoeven]

Trump, DeSantis, Tate, Rowling, or Dear Leader himself trooned out

If the person was considered irredeemable (like a serial killer) they'd say they weren't really trans; if not they'll say it was just dysphoria and they can redeem themselves by being psychotic TRAs from now on.

Ranked from least to most likely to troon out:
Rowling: Absolutely never, zero point zero percent chance.
Null: Don't even joke
DeSantis: Can't be AGP because he's gay
Trump: "I have the best pussy. The best. In fact, a lot of cis women are coming to me and saying 'Madame President, I wish I could trade pussies with you because yours is so much better than mine.' It's true, I have an incredible pussy."
Tate: 50% chance he troons out in real life

 

[TruffleSpark]

If the person was considered irredeemable (like a serial killer) they'd say they weren't really trans; if not they'll say it was just dysphoria and they can redeem themselves by being psychotic TRAs from now on.

Ranked from least to most likely to troon out:
Rowling: Absolutely never, zero point zero percent chance.
Null: Don't even joke
DeSantis: Can't be AGP because he's gay
Trump: "I have the best pussy. The best. In fact, a lot of cis women are coming to me and saying 'Madame President, I wish I could trade pussies with you because yours is so much better than mine.' It's true, I have an incredible pussy."
Tate: 50% chance he troons out in real life

Well yeah, the people who they are least likely to forgive are women like Rowling. Because they are misogynists who hate women. And they can still tell who the women are, even after they troon out.

 

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

With the whole trans movement there is something I've been thinking a lot about and that is primarily concerned with the transition of liberal ideologies as a whole. From that of the absolute rights (eg, the right to free speech) on moral grounds and that of grounds upon the consequences and that of the right to act as long as it doesn't harm others.

But recently, I've been more interested in the political factors of how this movement development. We get things from savvy backdoors in legislation (be trans for homosexual marriage back in the 50s) to what would be obamacare not allowing discrimination upon gender (so trannies could get hormones). Yet, elements can be traced back to what some may consider to be an innate flaw to that of the development of liberalism as an ideology. Liberalism existed before the birth of John Stuart Mill; He was born in 1806, long after the American and French revolutions for which are innately liberal in nature. Yet, it was Mill (a utilitarian) that is really associated with one of the most famous pieces of liberal ideology in the modern sense, that of the harm principle. The harm principle is in essence that of the belief that so long as what you do, does not harm others then you can do it. The Harm principle really is where this "transition" begins to take hold from that of more deontological ethics (the absolute rights mentioned previously) which can be noted in that of the american constitution with free speech. Again, the harm principle did not exist then. Americans speak often of what the founding fathers intended but they could have never intended or have thought of hate speech in the way that we do today. This is why for modern liberals they have to cling to a more activist/organic role when it comes to the constitution of free speech because they are so glued to the potential consequences that they do not understand the necessity and importance of said amendments.

And this is what really gets us onto the progressive movements and the developments of liberalism. This is something that I could go into more detail (I shall not do so here as I'm currently working on something related to this). It's the harm principle that much of the modern progressive movements are built upon. I.e. someone being trans "does not harm us" so we should allow it whilst if we stopped them then they'll hang themselves.

 

[TruffleSpark]

And this is what really gets us onto the progressive movements and the developments of liberalism. This is something that I could go into more detail (I shall not do so here as I'm currently working on something related to this). It's the harm principle that much of the modern progressive movements are built upon. I.e. someone being trans "does not harm us" so we should allow it whilst if we stopped them then they'll hang themselves.

I used to be a big believer in "if it isn't harming others, people should be allowed to do it." The trans movement is exactly what got me to change my mind. Trooning out is self destructive for the people who do it, I wouldn't have used to have cared about that. But because of the social contagion aspect the mere act of trooning out encourages self harm in others. So even the "good" trannies who aren't grooming minors on discord and sending rape threats to lesbians are causing harm. Because by showing that they can transition they are planting the idea in the heads of others that they could also transition.