Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Kurt Eichenwald]

Why don't trannies calm down and quit being perverts when they get neutered? When it happens to a dog they get less interested in raping and biting everything, so why doesn't it work with the troons?

 

[Randomrando]

Your uncle is retarded.

It was so odd, he's usually very well-spoken and well educated on issues but he quickly became so unhinged and ruffled. It was apparent he didn't have much knowledge on the subject but he was still determined to disagree with me and try to convince me my view was wrong.

He's also deeply religious so its weird that his liberal-ism won out to his god

This has been a persistent rumour for decades

It was his opening line, his big got-cha, I was so baffled as to what he was trying to prove by throwing it out there but it seemed very important to him.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Sounds like unc is a chaser…

 

[Jacques1194]

Why do TRAs believe nobody (Except when they do bad things) would lie about being LGBT?I've seen them really argue that a non binary woman that has never had gender dysphoria, started HRT, or ever thought about transitioning (thank god) is really trans because said woman said so.Yet they really believe that a "cis straight person" would lie about being straight or not trans.This is the same community that insists that the " attack helicopter" identity meme is a mockery and yet they insist teens claiming a xenogender identity are real and valid because "no one would make up an identity to make us look bad."Like how does this community contradict themselves by saying "That identity is real, but that one is fake.Also that person was trans because they said so until they committed a crime so obviously they were never trans."Wouldn't these people want to thin out the obvious fakes to not make them look bad?

 

[dick brain]

and unlike drug or alcohol addicts who show obvious signs, you don't know your friend is a porn addict until they show up to work one day wearing a wig and saying their new name is Gwen.

Nah you can tell. Porn addicts sexualize everything and tend to make inappropriate sexual jokes/comments/references unprovoked.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

It was so odd, he's usually very well-spoken and well educated on issues but he quickly became so unhinged and ruffled. It was apparent he didn't have much knowledge on the subject but he was still determined to disagree with me and try to convince me my view was wrong.

That's a familiar reaction made by well meaning troon allies. Like a root canal, if they're probed too far beyond the comfortably numb zone it hurts like a bitch and alarm bells go off. Fight or flight kicks in.

Reaching those people requires a slow and cautious campaign. And has no guarantees.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

I had an online friend, we used to talk about how much we hate trannys and tra ideology all the way back in like 2012.

Well….one day her long term live-in boyfriend came out as non-binary. We had stopped talking as much but I had to know what she thought about this. Unfortunately she was just too attached to the guy and said she supported “them” 100%. No mention of how we spent hours making fun of troons. I remember her talking about his transition always seemed so stepford wife ish even though she had previously always been so outspoken.

I decided to check on her fb again after a few years and wouldn’t you know it, boyfriend is now “Alexandria” (instead of “Alex”) and is fully trooned out complete with moobs and smirk.

Sad!

What is it with seemingly smart, decent women being saddled with troons?

As an Easter egg you can see the Andrea dworkin book (intercourse) in the background as a suggestion of her prior anti-tranny days.

 

[Thursday]

I don't know any women anymore that don't support this shit, it's depressing.

I've had some agree with me at first about this being peak mental illness but the next time we talk they seemingly change their minds. I don't think I understand women anymore if I can be real, it's so much more detrimental to women but they're the main supporters of this clownery.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Any woman staying with a trooned out partner, you gotta hope and pray (suggest?) the guy gets orchi as a minimum, because the last thing this world needs is more troons gaining access to children.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

I'd like to share a somewhat autistic anecdote that nonetheless got me thinking about troon shit.

The other day out of nowhere, YouTube recommended me some videos by a channel called Xploshi. To summarize for those who don't know, he does surreal/creepy animated parodies of 90s kid's cartoon shows. What I saw got a chuckle out of me, so I checked out the channel:

The instant I read that one 4 letter word, I immediately thought the word 'troon'. I checked out his Twitter to confirm my suspicion and sure enough:

Basically, I was able to clock this guy without ever seeing his face, hearing his voice or even knowing his name. This got me thinking that a lot of troons want to have their cake and eat it too. On the one hand, they're totes 100% valid uwu females trapped in male bodies, but at the same time they mysteriously seem to engage only with more typically male-brained activities (animation, music production, video games, anime, card/table top games etc).

My question for all troons out there is simply this: whence cometh the 'female brain'? I'm not saying real women can't, shouldn't or don't do animation/play video games etc. but the proof of the pudding is in the fact that I could tell that this guy was a troon based off of a single word in his YouTube channel description.

How is it that these people can claim to 'feel' like women when in terms of behaviour, appearance, sexuality, anatomy and interests they're indistinguishable from normal men? How do they reconcile this? When they say shit like 'I know I'm a woman because I feel like I'm one', what the fuck are they basing that off, exactly?

Parenthetically, why is it always 'girl' with these fucking weirdos. I'm sure I'm far from the first to point this out, but it's never 'woman' or 'lady'- only ever Girl [/ɡəːl/ noun a female child or adolescent.] I ask that rhetorically, as I suspect I know the answer already.

 

[deermeat]

I had an online friend, we used to talk about how much we hate trannys and tra ideology all the way back in like 2012.

Well….one day her long term live-in boyfriend came out as non-binary. We had stopped talking as much but I had to know what she thought about this. Unfortunately she was just too attached to the guy and said she supported “them” 100%. No mention of how we spent hours making fun of troons. I remember her talking about his transition always seemed so stepford wife ish even though she had previously always been so outspoken.

I decided to check on her fb again after a few years and wouldn’t you know it, boyfriend is now “Alexandria” (instead of “Alex”) and is fully trooned out complete with moobs and smirk.

Sad!

What is it with seemingly smart, decent women being saddled with troons?

As an Easter egg you can see the Andrea dworkin book (intercourse) in the background as a suggestion of her prior anti-tranny days.

View attachment 5594433
View attachment 5594441

The same reason women stay with abusers- which I have no doubt this dude is abusive toward her. She lacks self esteem, making her feel like she can't get someone better. That or being stuck in an emotionally manipulative relationship where she's too afraid to leave in case her "partner" tries to commit self delete. Either way, an unhealthy situation.
And before anyone is like "ree you can't judge that on them simply being a tranny" since when has there been a drama-free unproblematic mentally stable tranny? Sorry not sorry, delusional mental illness and relationships do not mix. Ever.

I don't know any women anymore that don't support this shit, it's depressing.

I've had some agree with me at first about this being peak mental illness but the next time we talk they seemingly change their minds. I don't think I understand women anymore if I can be real, it's so much more detrimental to women but they're the main supporters of this clownery.

No offense but this is a chronically online take. Most women don't support trannies. I will say though, it is the opposite for any girl who's into alt lifestyles and the "lgbt" community- but most of those women are spicy straights. And a lot of those people are alt left liberals.

It sucks if you are like me and are in those communities, but outside of that most women laugh at trannies (as well as being dusgusted) as much as we do on here. Why do you think these idiots always complain about women they deal with outside of their own T4T bubble?
You are right about women being the ones who let this slide too much. If women all protested instead of not saying anything at all to avoid conflict, things wouldn't have gotten this far. You gotta keep in mind, the average woman don't usually do things if it means it will cause risk to themselves or others. Considering how physically threratening troons can be, they'd rather hold their tongue than risk their jobs and livlihood.

 

[AGP]

I'd like to share a somewhat autistic anecdote that nonetheless got me thinking about troon shit.

The other day out of nowhere, YouTube recommended me some videos by a channel called Xploshi. To summarize for those who don't know, he does surreal/creepy animated parodies of 90s kid's cartoon shows. What I saw got a chuckle out of me, so I checked out the channel:

The instant I read that one 4 letter word, I immediately thought the word 'troon'. I checked out his Twitter to confirm my suspicion and sure enough:

Didn't this guy got outed for grooming or something?

 

[SnergenFlergen]

Didn't this guy got outed for grooming or something?

I wouldn't be at all surprised. Like I said I only discovered him a day or two ago, but finding out that a troon is under suspicion for grooming is not unlike finding out that a bear is under suspicion for shitting in the woods.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Xploshi's been mentioned on here before: apparently Xploshi used to be mutuals with Puppychan, and at one point supported Keffals, as seen in this archived post (before Keffals DFE'd); around this time, Xploshi also chimed in about the usage of the term troon as a slur. The last interaction between the two was on June 1, 2023 (post being replied to was deleted).

 

[SnergenFlergen]

Xploshi's been mentioned on here before: apparently Xploshi used to be mutuals with Puppychan, and at one point supported Keffals, as seen in this archived post (before Keffals DFE'd); around this time, Xploshi also chimed in about the usage of the term troon as a slur. The last interaction between the two was on June 1, 2023 (post being replied to was deleted).

I had no doubt whatsoever that this guy has been mentioned on the site before (and being a troon naturally means he has skeletons in his closet) but my bringing him up was more just a case of saying "I found this guy and could tell he was a troon based on virtually zero information and would like to sperg about the implications of that" rather than an attempt to derail the thread into talking about him in particular. That said, that's some fine research. I always enjoy the fact that you can just mention a troon you stumbled across incidentally and the farms is already primed with a dossier of questionable shit they've done.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Parenthetically, why is it always 'girl' with these fucking weirdos.

Yeah, you guessed it, Peter Pan Syndrome: they're terrified of aging and real world consequences with being an adult. This can be seen in "T-boys" too.

And of course, groomers and pedos.

My question for all troons out there is simply this: whence cometh the 'female brain'?

This might be better for the detransitioner and desister kiwi stories thread, this is what they answer well. But my guess is that all their "women" friends like the same things they do, thus they are women. Nowadays it is easier to have true and honest women into those hobbies as friends IRL and online, so it isn't a stretch that there are a number of these men who do have a few female friends out there, but it usually is isolated men reverberating off other isolated men in their troon friend group and later larger trans community as a whole.

The power of being the "other" is also huge. They feel disconnected from other men foe their hobbies likely, they might not realize that not being a stereotypical man who goes outside isn't the only way to man. When all your geek friends troon and you're a black and white thinker, what way do you go if you're a geek?

Lastly I think it is just the power of the fetish for a lot of these men. The contradiction doesn't set in because they don't know many real geeky females and they don't understand female geeks have lady dominated hobbies of their own: sewing, knitting, bookbinding, papercraft, jewelry, bead work, fashion design, indoor plants, and so on. SOME of them do: these are usually low effort males buying 100$ worth of Lolita Fashion No, not the book Lolita, the Japanese subculture who accidentally names their Victorian cute doll fashion after a common Victorian nickname, it is very modest and take photos of themselves, failing to do anything to make themselves look presentable. There's half assed knitters and crocheters too, but they're isolated to the lower rungs of the hobby. Basically, male troons enter female hobbies half heartedly for their women larp, then go back to their original male autism loves. The same happens with female troons.

 

[FinnSven]

How is it that these people can claim to 'feel' like women when in terms of behaviour, appearance, sexuality, anatomy and interests they're indistinguishable from normal men?

It’s been discussed before that a number of Troons want to be the kind of “girl that isn’t like the other girls”.
Popular speculation is that either they know or knew a girl who was like this to an extent and after failing to date her, now skin walk her.

This leads me to another personal silly theory, which includes the incel to troon pipeline.

It’s understood that in circumstances where men and women are completely segregated, on board a long voyage ship, prison, private boarding schools, some individuals at least will engage in homosexual activities.
In American prisons certainly, there are subcultures involving one male becoming the prison wife in an couple and presenting as feminine as possible.

Perhaps as these incels are so completely convinced that women are unavailable to them that some of them are actively seeking to be a “prison wife”?

I know a good proportion of these Troons claim to be lesbians but more often than finding a genuine girlfriend, they enter into a “transbian” relationship with another troon.

This isn’t the same as HSTS, this is some kind of culmination of an extreme desperation.

 

[countrybumpkin]

I had an online friend, we used to talk about how much we hate trannys and tra ideology all the way back in like 2012.

Well….one day her long term live-in boyfriend came out as non-binary. We had stopped talking as much but I had to know what she thought about this. Unfortunately she was just too attached to the guy and said she supported “them” 100%. No mention of how we spent hours making fun of troons. I remember her talking about his transition always seemed so stepford wife ish even though she had previously always been so outspoken.

I decided to check on her fb again after a few years and wouldn’t you know it, boyfriend is now “Alexandria” (instead of “Alex”) and is fully trooned out complete with moobs and smirk.

Sad!

What is it with seemingly smart, decent women being saddled with troons?

As an Easter egg you can see the Andrea dworkin book (intercourse) in the background as a suggestion of her prior anti-tranny days.

View attachment 5594433
View attachment 5594441

Few things are as depressing to me as when someone loses themselves because of a relationship, but that's a particularly awful (and stupid!) thing to sell out yourself for.

NEVER COMPROMISE YOUR VALUES FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

This has been a persistent rumour for decades. The logic runs like this: She has a flat bum and isn't conventionally attractive, so she must be a hermaphrodite.

Anyone who has seen True Lies knows it's all bullshit, but that's never stopped the stupid rumour mill from turning.

I remember a similar rumour about Lady Gaga doing the rounds back in the day, to the point they even made a joke about it in Sonichu: The Animated Series.

I wonder how Spazkid (a.k.a. Corey from OneyPlays) feels about this now, considering he's dating a tranny.

 

[FinnSven]

The whole "transgender umbrella" is supposed to contain gender nonconforming people, but I don't think the label gives people enough social credit anymore to use it in socjus spaces.

So effectively anyone who isn’t a bright pink giggling Barbie doll or a chad who gets mistaken for a gorilla and speaks only in growls is basically gender non conforming, to their criteria?

It sounds like they are trying to broaden trans to include “normal” but still retain special status for themselves.