Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[deermeat]

but when'd you last hear of a troon who reads and knits

Funny you say that, I barely see both pooners and troons read books unless it is smut. I wouldn't call reading a "female hobby" outside of the context of what they are reading- say, romance novels. Reading is reading, everyone should read. Every smart person, male or female, does read. But I think its telling how these people only like literature is if makes them look a certain way, hence why they loooove poetry so much. They are just oh so misunderstand, soooper deep broken hearted poets.

Find good, hard hitting friendships.. And that's something I've never seen a troon do.

Troons are literal cucks who think the more the merrier. These people get with others who literally tell them the exact same thing they tell others, yet for some reason they think they are spacial. Please enlighten me how you could ever be "special" and "loved" by someone who opens both their legs and heart to anyone who lovebombs them the same way they lovebomb others? Not to mention, these mfs are ugly as shit- so not only are you being cucked but you are being cucked by people who the average person would consider disgusting, doesn't help they have shit personalities so the whole "well they have a nice personality" doesn't apply, they have no personality at best.
How can you be upset about yourself, hate yourself, feel all kinds of shit, but not put two and two together that the reason you hate yourself is because you have no self respect and ignore every potential postivie friendship that comes in your life in favor for egotists who act as a hugbox? No amount of changing your appearance or buying the next new hot thing will ever fix that. The thing is, this logic could be applied to everyone. This would be the case for everyone, so to act like this would be "transphobic" to bring up is insane.

I don't feel bad though, let these people die alone, let them 41%. They asked for it. They don't offer the same support to people who are actually struggling. Let them wallow in the filth that they created because I guratentee you, most of them are abusive people regardless. Most of these people punch down instead of up but get mad when someone whos beneath them punches up. Fuck their "solidarity", it is nonexistent. I hope they all die, they are posers and trators ontop of that.

 

[Chappell's Lost Earring]

Spoiler: aimless rambling

Gender is inherently made up anyways. Words we made up to facilitate ideas combined with a set of guidelines created by society. All these troons and pooners are trying to fit into a rigid set of stereotypes that are made up, and failing at it because their biological sex and physical body doesn't add up to whatever form of "man" or "woman" they are trying to play out. Of course not - women have spend hundreds of years perfect and highlighting what works well on their female bodies. Look at the fashion through the ages. These trannies attempt what women have deemed as fashionable, then to get mad when everyone else, reacting in a very natural way, see a man in a dress with some makeup on. But not the makeup that fits his masculine face, not a "dress"/garment meant to highlight his body, rather he has to wear the feminine makeup and dress that is meant for a female build. There are men who wear makeup well, and maintain a masculine appearance, and many cultures have a male form of a dress and it looks good (ie kilts and thawbs).

On top of this, that man isn't just wearing a dress because he just likes how comfortable it is. He wants you to see him pretending to be a woman. He wants to make you comply in your head to his image, and if you don't you are a bigot. It is his fetish. The pooners are just tired of being sexualized, so they escape their "gender" by becoming what they view as men, chopping off their tits and growing beards. It just is easier for them to pass usually because most people can't tell unless they're like 5'2" and sound like a marshmallow. If they are a man who is more effeminate or a woman or is more manly, of course these things will also not work as well on them. It has been centuries in the making of fashion meant for another sex. But instead of trooning out, they should just be more androgynous and don't worry about the gender. We all have to figure out what fashion works for our bodies (look up color theory and kibbe body types). Trying to fit into some rigid "gender" that doesn't fit you or your body is like living life on hard mode.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

So for all the desisters and gnc "tranny coded" people, whats stopping you from transitioning? What is stopping you from giving in and saying "fuck it, I dont care anymore"?

I already sorta mentioned why in the Peak thread. But also just... no one saw me as a man outside trans hugboxes. Simple as. Also just seemed like a huge money sink and a way to tank most career options.

What I wonder is, what's going to happen to the transitioners when the pendulum swings, or just if the trans craze dies? Mass detransitioning? Suspicion towards anything trans related? Trans communities going underground?

 

[EllenDrawsRapeOfHerHaters]

I think all pooners were victims of sexual abuse or assault.
We can all agree periods suck. I wanted my uterus removed until I realized it would give me PCOS. I knew a girl with PCOS and I thought she was ugly.

 

[TismFarmer]

when'd you last hear of a troon who reads and knits?

The thing is, to really enjoy a good book, you have to immerse yourself into someone else's life.
You have to really feel like that other person in that moment and I don't think trannys are actually capable of doing that. Not just in a no theory of mind way, but in a totally self centered, everything must revolve around me and how I feel, kind of way.
It's sad really.
I find immersing myself in a good novel to be the perfect way to escape from my real life for a few hours. That could probably be very beneficial for those type of people.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The thing is, to really enjoy a good book, you have to immerse yourself into someone else's life.
You have to really feel like that other person in that moment and I don't think trannys are actually capable of doing that. Not just in a no theory of mind way, but in a totally self centered, everything must revolve around me and how I feel, kind of way.
It's sad really.
I find immersing myself in a good novel to be the perfect way to escape from my real life for a few hours. That could probably be very beneficial for those type of people.

It might be futile, but it's worth a try.

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

Trying to fit into some rigid "gender" that doesn't fit you or your body is like living life on hard mode.

I think that's the specific type of kid they, the gender shrinks, get to: the androgynous types. There is this short period were some tweens of both sexes can pull outright cross-dressing off, combine that with homosexuality - snap! the trap has sprung!
This take makes even more sense if you frame homosexuality as just a sort of (confused?) learning behavior: The kind, which (at least aforementioned) young people just happen to have a higher propensity to engage in - sexual experimentation. It's just insidious. And it's striking that they didn't really go after kids, except in hellholes like Thailand, until recently and even weirder is the timing, why did they think they can get away with it and why DID they actually get away with it, but didn't dare doing it to kids before? The only consolation is that the very fact that they did go after kids has discredited the whole concept - finally, after it lingered and festered in the dark corners of our society for decades.

I think the severe homophobia which was still rampant in my youth is actually to blame for this gaining traction, but then there's still a few puzzle pieces missing: Why did they go from praying and schocking away the gay to even chopping tomboys, which were never that much of an issue as gay acting boys, to pieces so suddenly?

It's as if misogyny spiked, while open gay bashing subsided, which is why we were lead to believe a woman is just a human without a dique and an extra hole and that billions (of girls) must be yeeted while we're at it.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

I have never once met a woman, any women, no pooner no nothing, who has the same "masculine" mentality as I do. All I wanted was support for my self perceived dysphoria, something Ive struggled with since puberty. Yet all I was surrounded by were feminine women who got to enjoy makeup, got to get along with other women no problem, wear feminine clothes, etc yet still wanted to be called a man. It felt like a joke. Heres me struggling socially due to literally not being able to connect nor relate to most women (yet was sexually attracted to them(, yet theres a bunch of women who wanna larp as yaoi anime boys.

I've had the same experience but for me its just... I don't care anymore. I sort of know I'll always be different from other women, I just have to befriend them on what I have in common with them.

It might be futile, but it's worth a try.
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r/egg_irl and its consequences have been a disaster to the human race.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

One thing I find pretty funny is when shitlibs support trannies only for them to turn on them. It almost always happens because trannies are political maximalists, and have no ability to coalition build or know anything civics wise. You see it essentially all the time with activist types like esqueer. You just see how they get torn to shreds while pleading about their past support. Great leopards eating my face moment when it happens.

 

[The Poopsmith]

One thing I find pretty funny is when shitlibs support trannies only for them to turn on them. It almost always happens because trannies are political maximalists, and have no ability to coalition build or know anything civics wise. You see it essentially all the time with activist types like esqueer. You just see how they get torn to shreds while pleading about their past support. Great leopards eating my face moment when it happens.

And because of this, trannies helped get Trump elected. Of course they chimp the fuck out when you mention this but deep down, they know it's true

 

[Maginot]

Trannies were only useful as a countergang to head off economic class leftism from taking off in the ranks. Of course it was discarded on the whims of PR, like it was adopted.

 

[Meat Target]

And because of this, trannies helped get Trump elected. Of course they chimp the fuck out when you mention this but deep down, they know it's true

They demanded trans visibility. They got it.

 

[Chappell's Lost Earring]

Ever since my post about the author of Cuckoo y’all got me out here deep diving about every random author I read lmao so easy for these trannys to get things published with pseudonyms. I don’t trust anything anymore. I just have to pray that if “trans” isn’t in the tags it’s safe (could still have they/thems though ugh).

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

Ever since my post about the author of Cuckoo y’all got me out here deep diving about every random author I read lmao so easy for these trannys to get things published with pseudonyms. I don’t trust anything anymore. I just have to pray that if “trans” isn’t in the tags it’s safe (could still have they/thems though ugh).

If I was into that, I'd bet that LOTS of woman's "romantic" novels (those with the bold, easy to read lettering) are by trannies or weird, basement dwelling guys in dresses. I never considered this until recently either. I was never aware until somewhat recently how many men like that are running free. The genre really lends itself to their submissive and inane ideas about how women operate... Probably worth to run a snopes style blog on that topic alone, if you are into that genre.
And then there's the outright troon stuff by TIFs, I am 100% that here on the farms there are one or two threads about somewhat high profile wirters, who do these yaoi style novellas and turned out to be deranged pooners, not unassuming, functional japanese mom's as with yaoi.

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

So for all the desisters and gnc "tranny coded" people, whats stopping you from transitioning? What is stopping you from giving in and saying "fuck it, I dont care anymore"?

The answer would depend on specific time during my life, but as of right now, I'm happy to say that I'm at the point where it seems like the most deranged and random idea I could ever get. Nothing to give in anymore, in other words. It didn't happen overnight though, I've been going through all sorts of internal turmoil since 2018 up to 2021-2022. These days I can't actually believe I felt how I felt, it's like, suddenly I have a trouble fully relating to dysphoric experiences, even my own, no matter how intense and "deep" they were at the moment.

That, and also, I seem to have a very strong personal conviction against genuine self-destructing behavior, glimpses of which were saving me from going absolutely insane when I was at my lowest level mentally. I'm already quite weak and sick, it would be stupid to make it all worse, and the idea of doing so irritates me a lot, especially now that I'm out of that mindset.

I have never once met a woman, any women, no pooner no nothing, who has the same "masculine" mentality as I do.

Heres me struggling socially due to literally not being able to connect nor relate to most women

Not sure if it will make you feel better, but here are some thoughts that came to my mind when I was pondering on this topic.

I met a few overly masculine women. They thought they never met a woman like them. I thought I never met a woman like them. Until I realized they're actually super feminine, just not in a superficial way. They aren't much different from average women, and the NLOG phenomena is just a broken pattern that shows false equation. Perceived gender non-conformity is that specific factor that supports said broken pattern.

I also, naturally, met a lot of feminine women. They are superficially feminine, at first glance. But none of them are the same, and they rarely related to most women as well. All of them said that to me, all of them experienced this and many barely had any close friends because, yes, they found they can't relate to most women they met, because there's nothing past perceived similarity through gender-conformity.

Or... really, not just gender-conformity, but anything else that we can perceive as a "common" or "differentiating" trait. No pattern of both (=human) is the same. I never met anyone like me, women or men, because I'm me, and they're them. It's a trap which kind of leads to gender mentality, a lot of people conclude from what I just said that they're non-binary these days because they can't relate to both men and women. But what does that even mean? What's there to relate to specifically? How to define it without a stereotype, apart from general sex-based socialization and behavior which, as we all see, stays sex-specific regardless if the person transitions? And yeah, I'm aware that some people exhibit patterns that don't really align with majority's patterns. And yet... what exact differences are we talking about here?

One thing I noticed is that people like us tend to fall into NLOG, "me vs the whole world", and similar mentalities that aren't as pronounced and expressed among a bit more conforming women not really due to overall pattern of being so-called "normal" or "not", but likely to personal trauma coming from childhood ostracization based on something that is (or, in some cases, isn't but perceived) a minority trait. Then that pain grows into a feeling of not belonging no matter where you go.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

What I wonder is, what's going to happen to the transitioners when the pendulum swings, or just if the trans craze dies? Mass detransitioning? Suspicion towards anything trans related? Trans communities going underground?

I doubt there'll be a singular answer to that question. It'll more likely be a whole smorgasbord of cope, doubling down, finger pointing, 41%-ing, memory-holing, mental gymnastics, backstabbing, hush money payouts and probably a couple of school shootings along the way.

What I can say with some certainty though is that the house of cards will come tumbling down at some point for one reason or another (hopefully sooner rather than later) and personal responsibility/accountability will be in short supply when it does.

The other factor to consider is that it wont just effect the trannies themselves- but also the surgeons, politicians, journalists, TRAs, teachers, TV executives, influencers and anyone else who marched under the tranny banner or generally had a hand in propagating this shit. My prediction is that the ones who will ultimately hold up their hands and accept that they were wrong/misled will constitute a vanishingly small minority. I also suspect that not a single person will spend a nanosecond behind bars for their complicity in the mutilation of an entire generation and this whole thing will be forgotten about (possibly through coercion/deleting fucking everything), leaving the whole sorry affair as just this curious little footnote in the history of humanity.

Where it belongs.

 

[Chappell's Lost Earring]

If I was into that, I'd bet that LOTS of woman's "romantic" novels (those with the bold, easy to read lettering) are by trannies or weird, basement dwelling guys in dresses. I never considered this until recently either. I was never aware until somewhat recently how many men like that are running free. The genre really lends itself to their submissive and inane ideas about how women operate... Probably worth to run a snopes style blog on that topic alone, if you are into that genre.
And then there's the outright troon stuff by TIFs, I am 100% that here on the farms there are one or two threads about somewhat high profile wirters, who do these yaoi style novellas and turned out to be deranged pooners, not unassuming, functional japanese mom's as with yaoi.

I imagine the pooner stuff wouldn't be like legitimate gay relationships. Similar to the way I don't believe troon-written romances would be good, because I don't believe troonbian relationships have the same dynamics as real lesbian relationships do. The gay stuff never interested me, but it would be annoying to be reading a book with the tag lesbians, and realizing it is written by a troon.

What is the snopes style blog? Search hasn't helped me.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

Came across this thread randomly so uh,,,,

So for all the desisters and gnc "tranny coded" people, whats stopping you from transitioning? What is stopping you from giving in and saying "fuck it, I dont care anymore"?

Not a desister but I am very much what you'd call gnc. Not in the "enby" way but the opposite gender way. But I never had an urge to transition. Not even a hint. At best there was a time when I almost swallowed the transmasc/femme slop because I often don't feel comfortable disclosing my gender online and like to stay either neutral or the opposite but I could get away with not mutilating myself.

Also, in my opinion, you don't have to switch genders just because you don't fit into societal gender norms. Trans people enforcing the idea that someone can't be the most stereotypical man or woman thus trans is another reason why I could never get into the idea of entertaining them.

It's also not helped that upon looking at trans people in my life and online, life seems like a genuine nightmare. Fucked emotionality, fucked body, fucked genitals, severe mental illness, constant imposter syndrome, some kind of degrading delusions about the very fabric of reality, shit health. It's awful being a tranny. And it turns you into a giant asshole too.

I've always been put off by surgery due to the very idea of switching the natural order of the human body around or ruining what comes naturally to you. Men have dicks, women have vaginas. It's the norm and I'm not about to divorce that idea due to some loud babies with mental illness.

They demanded trans visibility. They got it.

Now let's turn it around and turn it into freakshows of the 1800s.

What I can say with some certainty though is that the house of cards will come tumbling down at some point for one reason or another (hopefully sooner rather than later) and personal responsibility/accountability will be in short supply when it does.

I look forward to it. May or may not come when the 41% skyrockets. That should probably be a sign to everyone with a functional brain that something fundamental about the trans experience is broken and maybe we shouldn't feed into people's delusions.

Actually we should have been there when the number hit 41.

 

[nakedoldbutterflyman]

unhinged, ruin shit with their annoying attitude/talking and obsession with sex jokes, literally call you nazi because you disagreed one of their opinions and putting rules as if the internet is owned by them but if one of my irl friends has a tranny friend i wouldnt give a shit that much

 

[SnergenFlergen]

I look forward to it. May or may not come when the 41% skyrockets. That should probably be a sign to everyone with a functional brain that something fundamental about the trans experience is broken and maybe we shouldn't feed into people's delusions.

Actually we should have been there when the number hit 41.

The suicide rate is one thing, but the main reason that this will all collapse is because trannyism is a state-mandated religion that demands access to children. Gone are the days of these people just being transvestities, whose demands amounted to little more than 'I want to dress like a woman and don't give a shit what anyone has to say about that'.

We're now firmly in the era of 'I'm an actual woman, if you disagree you lose your job', and 'Your son is now your daughter because she told me she's trans, if you dissent to that in any way the state will take her off you'.

If there's any sense left in the West, this shit wont see out the decade.