Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Idiot Sandwich the 3rd]

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I think regardless of the trans subject anyone should be allowed to choose where to change clothes privately, forcing girls to change specifically in an unsafe place is fucked up, specially if it is unsafe because they allow men in

 

[bouquetnine]

I think regardless of the trans subject anyone should be allowed to choose where to change clothes privately, forcing girls to change specifically in an unsafe place is fucked up, specially if it is unsafe because they allow men in

Any sane person would agree that trans people, if we're going to accept them, need special consideration.

But not treating them "just like the other girls" is not validating so that's not good enough for them.

 

[Twix Eatr]

There is no such thing as "trans" and no, I don't agree they need special consideration. An extreme minority is closer to receiving ZERO consideration than tons of it. This is even more crystal clear when the only consideration they demand completely fucks over every single aspect of society. It's the slipperiest of slopes.

 

[Cake Point]

I'm not even interested in all things feminism but it's frightening how much trannies hate biological women, that it almost made me a feminist. Others have been saying it and it's so true that all they want to do is erase the existence of real women, abuse and hurt them, and invade their personal spaces. I'm so mad at the world.

 

[Fart Huffer]

Anyone remember the whole kerfuffle in the media when Richard O'Brien said trans women aren't really women?

I've had this paragraph from an article running through my head because of how plainly stupid it is:

His openness and inclusivity made it surprising when he remarked in 2016 that a trans woman “can’t be a woman. You can be an idea of a woman.” It felt like an inflexible statement from the man who in Rocky Horror preached the ultimate message of empowerment and self-actualisation: “Don’t dream it. Be it.”

Is Ryan Gilbey fucking retarded?
Frank-N-Furter was the villain of the show. O'Brien himself played another character who struck down this brave and stunning transwoman saying: "Your lifestyle's too extreme!", before killing him.
Although he wasn't initially keen on it.

From the beginning O'Brien saw himself in the role of Eddie, the rock and rolling ex-lover of Frank-N-Furter. Sharman, however, convinced him to play the cadaverous Riff-Raff. "I was really nervous about the whole thing. All I wanted to do was play Eddie, pop out of a Coke machine, sing a rock and roll song, and pop back into the Coke machine. But I respected Jim and since he felt I should play Riff-Raff I had to go along with him."

Here's another interview with O'Brien:

“He’s a drama queen, really,” O’Brien says of Frank. “He’s a hedonistic, self-indulgent voluptuary, and that’s his downfall. He’s an ego-driven . . . um . . .” and here his voice lowers to a stage whisper, “I was going to say, a bit like my mother.” What was that? Is O’Brien really revealing after all these years that the inspiration for Dr. Frank N. Furter is his mother? This psycho scientist in fishnets who creates a muscle-bound zombie to be his sex toy? Who beds first the innocent Janet and then her straight-as-a-die fiancé Brad? Who seemingly cares for no one and nothing beyond his own gratification? O’Brien’s mum?

“My mother was an unpleasant woman,” O’Brien says with sudden venom. “She came from a working-class family: wonderful people, not much money, undereducated but honest, a great moral centre of honesty and probity. And she disowned them. She wanted to be a lady. And consequently became a person who was racist, anti-Semitic . . . It’s such a tragedy to see someone throwing their lives away on this empty journey, and at the same time believing herself superior to other people.

“I loved her, but stupid, stupid woman, she wouldn’t understand the value of that. She was an emotional bully. And sadly all of us, my siblings and I, are all damaged by this. She was bonkers, my mother, and I think by saying that I’m allowing her to be as horrible as she was without condemning her too much.”

This, it transpires, is the real reason O’Brien’s parents uprooted the family from Gloucestershire when he was 10 to a 120acre farm in New Zealand: so that Mumsie could reinvent herself as posh.

It's really telling how these troons' rights activists have no narrative comprehension. If I put a Nazi as a villain in my play and give him a song to sing, it must be because I really really endorse his message, not that I'm establishing his character in the story. Fiction is reality! Reality is fiction!

An aside, the rest of the song that debuts the line "Don't dream it, be it!":

First the tranny sings:

I'm a wild and an untamed thing!
I'm a bee with a deadly sting...
You get a hit, and your mind goes ping!
Your heart will thump and your blood will sing!
So let the party and the sound rock on,
We're gonna shake it 'til the life has gone...
Rose tint my world,
Keep me safe from my trouble and pain...

then the rest of the brainwashed puppets repeat after him while he leads them in dance.

Reminds me of what TRAs and TIFs tell themselves while they ape their tranny masters.
All to enable their delusions that they've really transcended their physical bodies.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Anyone remember the whole kerfuffle in the media when Richard O'Brien said trans women aren't really women?

This is why they prefer their heroes and icons safely dead. "Marsha P" Johnson can't give an interview anymore, and referencing archives of past events is crimethink.

 

[Twix Eatr]

I'm not even interested in all things feminism but it's frightening how much trannies hate biological women, that it almost made me a feminist. Others have been saying it and it's so true that all they want to do is erase the existence of real women, abuse and hurt them, and invade their personal spaces. I'm so mad at the world.

Same, man. Everything about this so seriously affects women, especially lesbians. The apathy of everyone about it has kind of really fucked my head up.

 

[deermeat]

The apathy of everyone about it has kind of really fucked my head up.

You would think people would riot on the streets when lawmakers say troons have the "right" to play against women, that troons have the right to be in women only prisons, and now calling mothers "inseminated person"? Just to name a few.
But nothing happened. No one is doing anything aside for saying "man this is wrong" online.
No one rioted after the Nashville troon shooter either, you'd think people would say "alright enough of this shit".

We need another Boston Tea Party moment. No one even protested in mass. No one filled the streets, no one made call-to-actions.
A lot of talk. No action. It's blackpilling.

 

[Twix Eatr]

Agreed. I have a lot of theories on why that is. I'm curious whether you've publicly spoken about this issue on your personal social media? Or have you brought it up in private to your friends? Going full "mask off" so to speak.

 

[bouquetnine]

You would think people would riot on the streets when lawmakers say troons have the "right" to play against women, that troons have the right to be in women only prisons, and now calling mothers "inseminated person"? Just to name a few.
But nothing happened. No one is doing anything aside for saying "man this is wrong" online.
No one rioted after the Nashville troon shooter either, you'd think people would say "alright enough of this shit".

We need another Boston Tea Party moment. No one even protested in mass. No one filled the streets, no one made call-to-actions.
A lot of talk. No action. It's blackpilling.

We have 3 generations raised on television. They honestly think the only way anything will change is if the TV tells them to go out and change it.

 

[deermeat]

Agreed. I have a lot of theories on why that is. I'm curious whether you've publicly spoken about this issue on your personal social media? Or have you brought it up in private to your friends? Going full "mask off" so to speak.

I don't use social media and really only close to two people whom I am "mask off" with, they share the same beliefs. Yet they all have a "let it play out" mentality.
Really most of troon haters I know gone through a lot in life so they've adopted a similar blackpilled mentality when it comes to absurdity the world offers, that it is more important to focus on yourself than let these people bring you down- in which they view showing a reaction as it bringing you down.

I guess that's the problem, a lot of people against this are mature, which affects how they view things. But I don't really view the act of protesting and alike as being immature, not when it comes to actual human rights violations.
Yet it takes people to protest in mass, otherwise the few people that go out there will be ganged up on. It's a complicated situation.

 

[GluttonousManSlob]

Random thought I had. Troon behaviour makes more sense when you realise it's narcissistic abusers expanding their pool of victims. Normally you have to gain a position of power over someone to abuse them, but thanks to the troon pass, you can gaslight, threaten violence and demand anything you want from complete strangers. The whole world is now your abuse victim.

Probably an under-discussed element of trooning out, come to think of it. It's an instantaneous way to gain power over other people, which is very attractive to a narcissist.

 

[SugarSkullWishes1989]

The song Doctor Worm by They Might be Giants is claimed to be a "tranthem" by youtube mongoloids. Gross.

If you look it up it's pretty ironic:

"Somebody said, 'That song doesn't make any sense. Typical of They Might Be Giants songs, the lyrics don't make any sense, how do you know, who knows what that's about.' And I thought about it for a second and I thought well you know, really, I feel defensive immediately hearing somebody describe it that way. But to me, the song makes perfect sense.

It's about somebody who has an idea of their identity that, you know, other people don't agree with. And specifically, it's about the kind of person who has a fantasy about [wanting] people to call them a nickname that nobody will agree to call them, and has an idea of their status that nobody else agrees on, and it's a pretty common problem, you know. I mean I grew up with people like that, who lived in their mothers' basements and had an idea that they were on TV and stuff like that, and that's all the song is really about, it's about somebody who has a fantasy and nobody else will buy into it."

- John Linnell, 1998

 

[Cake Point]

You would think people would riot on the streets when lawmakers say troons have the "right" to play against women, that troons have the right to be in women only prisons, and now calling mothers "inseminated person"? Just to name a few.
But nothing happened. No one is doing anything aside for saying "man this is wrong" online.
No one rioted after the Nashville troon shooter either, you'd think people would say "alright enough of this shit".

We need another Boston Tea Party moment. No one even protested in mass. No one filled the streets, no one made call-to-actions.
A lot of talk. No action. It's blackpilling.

Sometimes I thought to myself, maybe the feminists were correct, they really all do hate women.

And this is also what makes me question, where are the feminists? Where are the SJWs? Throughout 2012-2016 they were screaming about how women's safety was far more important than men's opinions or whatever. Where are they now when women's safety is literally in danger? Zero. Silence. Nothing. I still see some intersectional/inclusive(?) feminists and who they're defending are.... men (trans women)? What happened, feminists? I thought y'all were a bunch of men haters? Why are you defending men? Is it just because they wear dresses? Why is your definition of what a woman is so shallow?

I think most of them are simply scared for their life. They're scared to get canceled, have their life ruined, losing their jobs, and losing their privileges. Also troons are fucking scary, besides the fact that they're so fucking annoying, they're biologically men, which are physically stronger. And you know how most of them still look like huge ass men and they can hurt you; hit, punch, etc. Especially the fact that they're mentally ill and are full-of-violence psychopaths only add more fuel to the fire.

 

[Paper Machete]

Sometimes I thought to myself, maybe the feminists were correct, they really all do hate women.

And this is also what makes me question, where are the feminists? Where are the SJWs? Throughout 2012-2016 they were screaming about how women's safety was far more important than men's opinions or whatever. Where are they now when women's safety is literally in danger? Zero. Silence. Nothing. I still see some intersectional/inclusive(?) feminists and who they're defending are.... men (trans women)? What happened, feminists? I thought y'all were a bunch of men haters? Why are you defending men? Is it just because they wear dresses? Why is your definition of what a woman is so shallow?

I think most of them are simply scared for their life. They're scared to get canceled, have their life ruined, losing their jobs, and losing their privileges. Also troons are fucking scary, besides the fact that they're so fucking annoying, they're biologically men, which are physically stronger. And you know how most of them still look like huge ass men and they can hurt you; hit, punch, etc. Especially the fact that they're mentally ill and are full-of-violence psychopaths only add more fuel to the fire.

Feminism has been subverted by some sort of marxist whatever. The mainstream isn't pro-woman but just used to be anti-western. It should be blatantly obvious.

Most of them hate men. So, they seal clapped when men were/volunteered to be emasculated and acted pathetic. But it's backfiring now. Cause, you know, it turns out the ones playing the sneaky fucker tactics actually tend to have unhealthy psychological profiles.

 

[cypocryphy]

Being gender critical is usually linked with being "far right" (lol). Does this cause people to not be openly gender critical, or to try and gaslight themselves into accepting trannies? I feel like if it wasn't seen as a far right thing we'd have more people openly against it. I still think the silent majority are anti-trans, even when they're not that right leaning.

 

[Twix Eatr]

I don't use social media and really only close to two people whom I am "mask off" with, they share the same beliefs. Yet they all have a "let it play out" mentality.
Really most of troon haters I know gone through a lot in life so they've adopted a similar blackpilled mentality when it comes to absurdity the world offers, that it is more important to focus on yourself than let these people bring you down- in which they view showing a reaction as it bringing you down.

I guess that's the problem, a lot of people against this are mature, which affects how they view things. But I don't really view the act of protesting and alike as being immature, not when it comes to actual human rights violations.
Yet it takes people to protest in mass, otherwise the few people that go out there will be ganged up on. It's a complicated situation.

I'm working on how to optimize peaking people. The internet as we know it is done. Our friends are tumbleweed blowing around and whichever ad campaign has the most to spend on bots will win.

Being gender critical is usually linked with being "far right" (lol). Does this cause people to not be openly gender critical, or to try and gaslight themselves into accepting trannies? I feel like if it wasn't seen as a far right thing we'd have more people openly against it. I still think the silent majority are anti-trans, even when they're not that right leaning.

They have allowed "sex is binary" to become right wing. They call TERFs right wing. Radical feminists? On the right? Yes, this is all a tactic of theirs. It sucks because people are morons so it somehow works.

 

[Thursday]

I'm working on how to optimize peaking people. The internet as we know it is done. Our friends are tumbleweed blowing around and whichever ad campaign has the most to spend on bots will win.

Honestly I think this is the best course of action we can take, peaking people who otherwise have no idea how self destructive, violent, and repulsive the tranny movement really is.

I've been peaking other people myself in subtle ways who are in the "live and let live" crowd, and around the types who are supportive I just point out little contradictions about the whole thing while remaining seemingly neutral, hoping it sparks just an ounce of critical thinking.

 

[Paper Machete]

I've been peaking other people myself in subtle ways who are in the "live and let live" crowd, and around the types who are supportive I just point out little contradictions about the whole thing while remaining seemingly neutral, hoping it sparks just an ounce of critical thinking.

I ask questions like "why do you believe this?" and "who told you this?"

Things like "trans women are women" are memetic and astroturfed so much that people sort of take them as a given.

Other stuff would be things like: so it's the nice/kind thing to do, why? Basically just get them to think through the logic (they usually haven't).

 

[deermeat]

imma be real, stinkditch is a good appetite suppressant. Its also good if you wanna stop masturbating or for whatever reason want to stop feeling horny, despite how these people love to claim otherwise. Outside of the SRS thread, I am often caught off guard due to how gross the shit they post is, especially the sexual shit. I took a break from this site then came back, I feel like my tolerance gotten lower. I love it because it gets a reaction out of me which is rare, but I hate it because its fucking NASTY. Everything about troons and poons is nasty.

Its like reading about junkies.