Infected RationalWiki - Whiny hugbox for spergs and a clusterfuck of neverending drama on a rapidly declining website.

[kuniqs]

Oh shit they're making fun of my bookmarked website

 

[AnOminous]

They probably think he's so far right racist because he uses the word "neo-progressive" which he got from the Heritage Foundation and using anything from a right wing think tank makes you right wing. Lulz. They've been listening too much to potato YouTubers.

This is funny from people who claim to be skeptics. Simply rejecting an argument because of its source is the height of fallacy. Both the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute do, from time to time, produce solid research. Nobody is obligated to believe their conclusions, but their respective biases are pretty much up front. Obviously, one can weigh the merits of arguments at least in part by the general tendencies of the operations that produce them, but that certainly doesn't prove them false.

Nor, when they cite actual objective facts, does the source make the facts themselves magically turn false because one doesn't like them.

That Sargon article is pathetically bad.

Still doubling down guys.

Hahahahahaha!

Pointing out that KF is metasperging is belaboring the obvious to say the least.

 

[JU 199]

I can see why their own satire and self-awareness is so terrible, since it's clearly obvious they have no idea what they are.

 

[Von Clausewitz]

This is funny from people who claim to be skeptics. Simply rejecting an argument because of its source is the height of fallacy. Both the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute do, from time to time, produce solid research. Nobody is obligated to believe their conclusions, but their respective biases are pretty much up front. Obviously, one can weigh the merits of arguments at least in part by the general tendencies of the operations that produce them, but that certainly doesn't prove them false.

Nor, when they cite actual objective facts, does the source make the facts themselves magically turn false because one doesn't like them.

That Sargon article is pathetically bad.



Pointing out that KF is metasperging is belaboring the obvious to say the least.

Sounds pretty much like standard SJW rhetoric.

 

[RichardDripp]

I like reading RationalWiki. However, I am also aware of the bias. For instance, when in a political debate, it might not be the best idea to cite that place.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Pointing out that we're spergs is like pointing out water is wet. They're gonna have to try harder.

 

[Linako 2.0]

So why do a bunch of pretentious reddit fedoras even care about us?
did they read on that one vaccine sperg from like 3 years ago who got banned?
(it's been so long, I forgot his name)

 

[vertexwindi]

So why do a bunch of pretentious reddit fedoras even care about us?

Because we hurt their feefees.

 

[Linako 2.0]

Because we hurt their feefees.

I thought they were supposed to be a RATIONAL Wiki, lol.

 

[Morbid Boredom]

I'd say that RationalWiki's trajectory is a warning to the Kiwis.

RW started with a clear goal, however mean-spirited. For a long time, the only dissenters were arguing in bad faith, and often came from Conservapedia, the very website they targeted (they let one guy stay around because they like to mock him, much like our lolcows in their containment threads). This shaped the site culture adversely and formed the hugbox they have today. Anyone who gets combative is automatically lumped in with the loonies at Conservapedia (and the few remaining users are clearly unwell) and treated like shit.

 

[Wally Balljacker]

Whoa, what the hell happened to that site? I used to tootle around there while bored at work just to feed my conspiracy theory obsession, and now it looks like it got taken over by the "enlightened" crowd.

I feel kinda gross now.

 

[Flamesoul the Diabolical]

I read some stuff on RW a while ago, before they got this bad

I used to reference their logical fallacy articles in arguments but then I realized that they were a terrible source and I started using real sources such as plato.stanford.edu

Good! I have the same sentiment of citing real sources too, I've become a lot more paranoid about that kinda thing lately since I started college, I don't wanna seem like an idiot.

I experienced exactly this every time I tried editing a page. It was fucking maddening.

Take the USS Liberty page. I actually created the original page myself after noticing it brought up in a different article. It looked like this. In less than a week, it looked like this even though all the real sources in the article came directly from me.

This was one of the reasons I left. It's hard enough getting anything substantial done by crowdsourcing, but when you can't make a difference even on the principles of meritocracy, you might as well attempt to win a race with a gasoline fire.

Oh god, that must've been incredibly frustrating! I mean, your article was very well sourced and I could tell you put quite a bit of effort into it. That they just completely ruined it like that, so quickly...I feel for ya :/

 

[Cosmos]

View attachment 60005

"What the fuck's a kiwifarm?" needs to be random.txt

 

[Randall Fragg]

So, how long until some Kiween goes and edits in claims like "Null is a pedophile", "katsu is a rabid Trump fanboy", and "kiwis routinly drive innocent transpeople to suicide"?

 

[Morbid Boredom]

So, how long until some Kiween goes and edits in claims like "Null is a pedophile", "katsu is a rabid Trump fanboy", and "kiwis routinly drive innocent transpeople to suicide"?

"Hm... that will be lulzy!"

Stochastic weening.

 

[AnOminous]

This shaped the site culture adversely and formed the hugbox they have today. Anyone who gets combative is automatically lumped in with the loonies at Conservapedia (and the few remaining users are clearly unwell) and treated like shit.

That's how lolcows operate. Like Phil thinks we're deranged cishet MRAs and Marjan thinks we're a bunch of feminists.

 

[Pocket_Sand!]

So, how long until some Kiween goes and edits in claims like "Null is a pedophile", "katsu is a rabid Trump fanboy", and "kiwis routinly drive innocent transpeople to suicide"?

I give it a week... ten days tops.

I love watching SJW "logic" and thought processes at work, this thread ought to be interesting.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

Not really interested in the political stuff, but Aspie Virgin will suffice.

 

[ASoulMan]

That Kiwi Farms article was very rational and well thought out.

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

Preface to Elementary School
It is often said that kids are innocent, unburdened by politics and malice. This is not true. Maybe people forget their childhoods, or maybe they were "lucky" enough to grow up in a place or time where conflicting opinions and causes for conflict did not exist. Maybe the majority doesn't see their persecution as "politics," and maybe malice goes unseen so long as it happens to others. Whatever the reason for people saying (and possibly thinking) that kids are pure matters not; It's still not true.

First Grade
When I was in the first grade, well-behaved students got tickets - the sort usually used for raffles and kid-targeted pizza places. The tickets could then be traded in for prizes. I wasn't interested in temporary rewards like candy, nor was I interested in pencils and erasers (the most riveting items for kids[citation NOT needed]). Those were the only options, but the candy selection did change periodically. I decided that it would be best to save my tickets as long as possible. In the best case scenario, there was the possibility of a toy being added. The candy selection changed, so it was reasonable to assume that there was at least a possibility of a toy or some-such. In the worst case scenario, I would get the joy and excitement of a bunch of candy all at once.

I acquired a large number of tickets. The other kids showed no restraint and had few tickets. They were infuriated. They accused me of stealing their tickets. I already had an issue with bullying due to my logical mind and snarky-yet-flamboyant personality before this, but now their bullying was complete inanity. They should have developed object permanence by the first grade. They had no tickets because they used the tickets for candy. During a trip to the principal's office (I was in trouble because someone wrote "cat" on a piece of paper, see below) they stole my tickets. They did the very thing they accused me of doing, under the false justification that they were taking back what was theirs. Tu quoque doesn't have to be grounded in reality, it seems. It is also unfortunate that "taking back what I'm owed" is a common sentiment in the world.

The adults were atrocious. As an example: I think cats are absolutely adorable. My love of cats prompted the ire of the traditional, dog-loving boys. So, clearly, I was being anti-social. I was ordered to not only stop talking about cats, but also to not do anything cat-related. I actually followed this order. I decided to draw a picture of something that boys are supposed to like: a baseball game. However, a malicious student wrote "cat" on the back of the picture and told the teacher. I was sent to the principal's office and got yelled at over it. When I insisted I had not written "cat" on the back of the picture, I was assumed to be lying. I decided to hiss at the principal in retaliation and defiance. Apparently, though, hissing at people makes them think you're crazy. Amazingly, it seems to have been what got me out of the frying pan. Unfortunately, there's a saying about getting out of the frying pan.

Second, Third, and Fourth Grade
Half-way through the first grade, I got bumped up to the second grade. I then had to go through two and a half years with the same violently malicious students and violently abusive teachers.

(will be continued later)