Raya and the last dragon - A half decent trailer for most likely a mediocre film that will still get a billion dollars

[Kari Kamiya]

I find it funny that Sisu talking takes me out though, because I fucking love Mushu and the Genie despite them also having very distinct voices and talking very anachronistically. I wonder why that is.

Mushu and Genie (Genie especially) were written with their voice-actors in mind. I feel like no one wrote Sisu with the thought of having some Asian chick singing about her vagina as her voice. I think she's just another case of needing a diversity hire and someone not on the writing team must've somehow recommended her or she happened to come into auditions and checked off what they were looking for in a diversity hire.

Seriously, did anyone even know who Awkwafina was before this movie got announced?

 

[One Man Bland]

Official trailer is out.

Christ, it looks like another one of those Disney films where it’s going to turn out that the first or second draft would’ve been a solid movie before it got focus group tested and micromanaged by marketing to hell and back to make it more like the MCU and Frozen.

I cringed so hard at ever quip and “joke” I think I perforated my spleen.

 

[cactus]

I'm sick of the CG Disney movies always using the same style just because it's cheaper. I hope this changes with Iger out, he's such a cheap bastard.

 

[NoReturn]

Mushu and the Genie

I agree with:

Mushu and Genie (Genie especially) were written with their voice-actors in mind. I feel like no one wrote Sisu with the thought of having some Asian chick singing about her vagina as her voice. I think she's just another case of needing a diversity hire and someone not on the writing team must've somehow recommended her or she happened to come into auditions and checked off what they were looking for in a diversity hire.

Seriously, did anyone even know who Awkwafina was before this movie got announced?

If you design a character around a voice actor, it "fits" better. Disney actually did test footage of the genie synced up to Robin Williams' stand up to convince him to take the part.
This has happend for other characters too. Hades was originally designed for Jack Nicholson and was revised when James Woods got the part. Kathryn Beaumont was both Alice's voice actress and her body-reference for the animation, same for Eleanor Audley (which is why Lady Tremaine moves like Maleficent in the original films).

 

[The Nothingness]

It might be just me but it looks like Disney took the sword Ivy, from Soulcaibur franchise, uses and gave it to the main character.

 

[Internet's Boyfriend]

Mushu and Genie (Genie especially) were written with their voice-actors in mind. I feel like no one wrote Sisu with the thought of having some Asian chick singing about her vagina as her voice. I think she's just another case of needing a diversity hire and someone not on the writing team must've somehow recommended her or she happened to come into auditions and checked off what they were looking for in a diversity hire.

Seriously, did anyone even know who Awkwafina was before this movie got announced?

Awkwafina's been a thing for a while. She was in Crazy Rich Asians and the all female Ocean's movie and she won a Golden Globe for The Farewell. I think it was more they wanted to cast names but didn't think/care enough to change the designs to suit whoever they cast.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

This movie seemed a lot more interesting when it was “girl searches for a lost possibly-nonexistent dragon to save the world” and not “goofy road trip with wacky shenanigans with dragon sidekick and goofy group”. It’s like expecting “Up” and getting “Chicken Little”.

 

[starborn427614]

This movie seemed a lot more interesting when it was “girl searches for a lost possibly-nonexistent dragon to save the world” and not “goody road trip with wacky shenanigans with dragon sidekick and goofy group”. It’s like expecting “Up” and getting “Chicken Little”.

Nobody deserves to have Chicken Little randomly dropped on them.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

This movie seemed a lot more interesting when it was “girl searches for a lost possibly-nonexistent dragon to save the world” and not “goofy road trip with wacky shenanigans with dragon sidekick and goofy group”. It’s like expecting “Up” and getting “Chicken Little”.

Isn't that what actually happened though? Up had like five good minutes and then it's a mediocre adventure with an annoying maybe-asian boy.
Also even watching it twice I can't differentiate between the villainesses and the hero. I'm pretty sure the former has the Ivy sword and the latter has the staff.

 

[The Nothingness]

Also even watching it twice I can't differentiate between the villainesses and the hero. I'm pretty sure the former has the Ivy sword and the latter has the staff.

The hero also has long hair while the antagonist has a Karen haircut.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

i bet the asians are happy at the way it mangles their culture and just has everything thrown at the wall and the people being ambiguously brown

Oh, absolutely. Nothing appeals to the entire Asian market as much as pretending that they only have one hodgepodge conglomerate of a featureless cultureslushie that's the exact same in every Asian nation.

There's something off about the story.

The premise from the articles is monsters killed people long ago and dragons fought to the death to kill them all. Fast forward to now, the monsters are back and a dragon is needed to fend them off again.

The trailer showed a different story: A bunch of ambiguously Asian tribes are mad at each other and a dragon is the key to peace.

So if there's monsters killing everyone, why the fuck are the tribes fighting? All Raya did was fight humans and not monsters in the trailer so it's like they don't exist. Were they written out?

Yeah, the plot looks like a mess and I have no fucking clue what the premise of the plot even is.

But here's 10 bucks that say the monsters that threaten these people will turn out to be caucasian invaders trying to establish a colony or something equally stupid.
If Disney had balls, they'd go full Opium Wars on this sucker.

They shouldn't have gone for Kelly Marie Tran to voice Raya. Love her to bits, but she cannot voice act to save her life. You know when you watch something animated and a character opens their mouth all you can hear is a voice actor reading their lines off a script? Because that's how her delivery is. Some actors can make the transition from live action to voice acting very smoothly, and poor Kelly clearly isn't one of those lucky souls.

Oh come on. Giving this gig to Kelly Marie Tran was a totally smart move. After all, she was such a big hit with audiences in TLJ, they got rid of her for the next movie and her toys wandered directly into a big shredder.

Awkwafina

I refuse to use that stupid name. She's Quirkycunt from now on.

 

[Weed Eater]

Oh boy I can't wait to get ANOTHER Disney/Pixar film with an ambiguously written female lead thrown in purely because of the idea that we somehow don't have "enough" female role models. Even then, I get no sense of personality from this Raya character. Why should I feel invested, the same can be said for the actual little girls that will see this. I didn't like Frozen but at least it had the sisterly love thing going for it.
The Sisu character is a godawful nightmare.

 

[Yamma Damma]

Yeah, the plot looks like a mess and I have no fucking clue what the premise of the plot even is.

But here's 10 bucks that say the monsters that threaten these people will turn out to be caucasian invaders trying to establish a colony or something equally stupid.
If Disney had balls, they'd go full Opium Wars on this sucker.

Well lots of characters were holding glowing blue rocks (including the dragon when she shape-shifted) so you may be right about opium wars for kids.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Well lots of characters were holding glowing blue rocks (including the dragon when she shape-shifted) so you may be right about opium wars for kids.

Chasing the dragon, magical substances to make you feel more powerful, it all comes together.

Nah, the glowstones are just a recycled plot device from Moana, that also replace the fishhook for Maui's trasnformation powers.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Awkwafina's been a thing for a while. She was in Crazy Rich Asians and the all female Ocean's movie and she won a Golden Globe for The Farewell. I think it was more they wanted to cast names but didn't think/care enough to change the designs to suit whoever they cast.

Interestingly, she has actually done voice-acting before, as one of the Skeksis in the Netflix Dark Crystal mini-series (lending the character a distinct "Jewish Mother" vocal mannerism).

 

[Idiotron]

I'm not a Disney fan in any way but one thing I always liked about their older animations is how colorful and visually engaging they are.
Even their direct to video/TV shit did that.
This shit is bland and it does the standard cost cutting bullshit that 99|% of Hollywood movies, animated or not, do by making everything blue and orange.

Seriously, here's a test:
Take a shot when you see something other than blue and orange in the trailer, you'll barely make your throat wet.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

I get a massive "stolen assets" vibe from this.

 

[cactus]

I get a massive "stolen assets" vibe from this.

Ever since Frozen, because we all Anna and Elsa are just altered Rapunzel models, and Moana (despite how much I love the movie, she looks like Pacific Islander Rapunzel).

 

[stuffandthings]

Christ, it looks like another one of those Disney films where it’s going to turn out that the first or second draft would’ve been a solid movie before it got focus group tested and micromanaged by marketing to hell and back to make it more like the MCU and Frozen.

I cringed so hard at ever quip and “joke” I think I perforated my spleen.

If you told me this was a Dreamworks movie, based on that trailer, I would have believed you in a heartbeat. I was getting absolutely painful Meet the Croods and Boss Baby vibes from this. That cast looks cluttered af. And of course everyone is a stronk woman. We even have a stronk woman baby. The only male characters are Dead dad, ripoff preteen Aladdin, and some kind of stupid ape beast man who looks like a massive black hole of masculinity, like they threw all the man tropes into one ugly bucket of muscle. We're getting all these weird movies where the single male member of the 'party' has become the comic relief animal sidekick of prior generations.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

Ever since Frozen, because we all Anna and Elsa are just altered Rapunzel models, and Moana (despite how much I love the movie, she looks like Pacific Islander Rapunzel).

Zootopia too, the main character is just Anna's fursona