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A Bit Concerning said:
the water usage shit is the worst anti-ai point by a fucking mile. They were whining about the same shit when crypto shitcoins were the next big thing, and it’s just as retarded now as it was back then.
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If they use water to such a massive degree the answer is to just charge more for all the water usage, for the electricity costs, the infrastructure upgrade costs. Governments (city, county, state) can just do that. There's nothing in the construction and ongoing workings of data centers (AI or otherwise) that can't be worked through by just making these companies pony up more money.
 
23iwakura23 said:
Reddit wasn't originally designed as a forum, but as a link aggregator and page-ranking system. When reddit launched, it didn't even have comments. Those came 6 months later, with the site launching in jul. 2005 and comments coming in december.

The original intent of the whole site was just to rank whether a link was interesting or not using a crowd sourced system.

Self-posts (that is, OP posts text instead of a link to some other site) weren't added, it seems just by looking through wayback machine, until late 2007, and proper subreddits as we know them now don't exist until 2008 (in 2007, it seems "subreddits" existed as subdomains to reddit.com).

I think in a way, we're seeing a "headless robot" in a way. Reddit's voting system was a machine designed for a very different sort of website. The website's changed significantly since then, but still retains that feature which no longer serves a good purpose in the system. It's a machine that's outlived its purpose.
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Knowing that make it horryifing somehow:
An undead vessel artificially maintained by robots that don't understand that their head is gone, repeating the same task aimlessly for inhabitants who fail to grasp the meaning of the moving machine, exploiting it improperly until they corrupt the initial system with flooding information & crude additions to the strained core. They'll be oblivious until the last second before the inevitable collapse.
Would be a fine sci-fi story tho.
 
Dante Alighieri said:
If they use water to such a massive degree the answer is to just charge more for all the water usage, for the electricity costs, the infrastructure upgrade costs. Governments (city, county, state) can just do that. There's nothing in the construction and ongoing workings of data centers (AI or otherwise) that can't be worked through by just making these companies pony up more money.
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Presumably, the local governments are complicit. That is, if a huge company is shopping around for a place to put a very important infrastructural aspect that will bring jobs and economic throughput to a region, every city they're considering is, at the very least, in competition with one another to give them the best deal, which incentivizes them to charge less, not more, for the opportunity. It's only a problem to them if the unrest it causes to the people whose bills are increasing actually move away, rather than just whining for a while and then getting used to it.

That's just me shooting from the hip, though, could be wrong.
 
Gondolindrim said:
Interestingly, it was the inverse for COVID where they were begging for lockdowns and the government to go full draconian. I guess the fear of death is the only way to snap them out of their consoomer habits.
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You're looking at it the wrong way.
Prior to the lockdowns, they were shut-in gooners who hardly went outside, and whose closest approach to humanity was parasocial relationships constructed from updoots.
During the lockdowns, they were shut-in gooners who hardly went outside, and whose closest approach to humanity was parasocial relationships constructed from updoots.
Now the lockdowns have ended, they are shut-in gooners who hardly go outside, and whose closest approach to humanity is parasocial relationships constructed from updoots.

But what the lockdowns did do was hurt other people. People who went outside. People who had actual friends, jobs, and families. And anything that hurts the other is good, because redditors are soulless retards devoid of joy.
 
A Bit Concerning said:
the water usage shit is the worst anti-ai point by a fucking mile. They were whining about the same shit when crypto shitcoins were the next big thing, and it’s just as retarded now as it was back then.

Everything uses water to some degree, and everything wastes it to some degree. I remember seeing somewhere that the amount of water ai uses globally is comparable to a nation around the size of Denmark. Obviously that’s still a fuck ton of water, but there are so many other things that waste just as much if not more water, and there are plenty of other issues that affect the global water supply that have literally nothing to do with ai.

The best points against ai usage, to me, have a lot more to do with how it’s effected the internet as a whole (Reddit being the fucking epicenter of this, ironically enough, I’m willing to bet at least one of the comments you posted was written by AI or with its assistance), how it makes people stupider and less creative as they learn to rely on it for everything, and how it can cause or exacerbate psychosis in people with severe mental illnesses. Redditors are the exact people that ai is designed for, and it makes sense that so much of it is trained on Reddit comments.
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According to this guy's substack, AI uses less water than almost anything else human beings do. The one that caught my eye is that a pair of leather shoes uses 2 million times as much water as a ChatGPT query. So if you thrift one pair of shoes instead of buying new, you can do 2 million "free" prompts.

https://andymasley.substack.com/p/the-ai-water-issue-is-fake
 
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Rapefugee or Rootless Cosmopolitan?
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LMlurker said:
According to this guy's substack, AI uses less water than almost anything else human beings do. The one that caught my eye is that a pair of leather shoes uses 2 million times as much water as a ChatGPT query. So if you thrift one pair of shoes instead of buying new, you can do 2 million "free" prompts.

https://open.substack.com/pub/andym...?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=4bnbyd
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Amazing article. Saving this to shove into people's faces when they sperg out.
 
the water usage bitching is retarded because building the facilities near large enough rivers makes that shit almost free. you don't have to build your datacenter in some arid desert where water is super scarce and expensive.

a bigger problem is electricity demand, cause unlike water that shit is not free, and expanding power production capacity is a very slow process (largely because getting all the necessary permits and complying with every applicable regulation takes a lot of time and effort)

but in my opinion by far the largest problem is that none of the AI operations they want to build these datacenters for are profitable, the whole thing is built on debt - debt that is secured by nothing but vague promises of future returns.
if those future returns don't materialize as promised then a lot of these planned megaprojects are going to stall or fail very quickly.
 
DumbDude43 said:
the water usage bitching is retarded because building the facilities near large enough rivers makes that shit almost free. you don't have to build your datacenter in some arid desert where water is super scarce and expensive.

a bigger problem is electricity demand, cause unlike water that shit is not free, and expanding power production capacity is a very slow process (largely because getting all the necessary permits and complying with every applicable regulation takes a lot of time and effort)

but in my opinion by far the largest problem is that none of the AI operations they want to build these datacenters for are profitable, the whole thing is built on debt - debt that is secured by nothing but vague promises of future returns.
if those future returns don't materialize as promised then a lot of these planned megaprojects are going to stall or fail very quickly.
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What are you talking about? Datacenters create viable jobs in the economy. A huge Amazon or Google data center? Do you think it just operates using cron job scripts and automation?

No it doesn't! These AI data centers are bringing a huge number of jobs to our communities. A massive AI data center that occupies a thousand square miles might result in the creation of maybe one or even two jobs!

Make sure you don't leave that part out
 
Dr. Butt said:
If these people cared about the environment they'd get rid of their amazon prime, ubereats, and regular uber apps.
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Isnt this always the case with these people? Same people crying about "muh environment, muh values" are the same individuals who overconsume and give money to corporations destroying the environment or making things more difficult for the common man. But if you go through their post history these people will be jerking off music artists, buying an obscene amount of merch, products etc.

Most Redditors talking about Anti AI forget they have post histories and I see them in the Character Ai Subreddit from the history alone. "Rules for Thee, but not for me!"

If they really wanted to be as anti consumption and pro environment as they claim to be they'd actually learn skills that contribute like mending, sewing, gardening etc. But that requires going offline and applying what they preach into practice.
 
Dude imagine these people listening to Zach saying he owned a Hitler youth knife on Sleepycabin their heads would explode lmao
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neger psykolog said:
might result in the creation of maybe one or even two jobs!
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A lot of people don't realize that. Once the build is done the only people working there are basically janitors. Keep stuff running. Remove dead stuff, add fixed stuff, maybe a full time electrician and HVAC person to do the routine maintenance and fix stuff if problems occur. Bigger changes they'll ship in a team to do new hardware installs or whatever and then they go away when they're done.

As much as people hate warehouses they'll have a ton more staff, mostly still low end skillsets, but more of them.
 
Dr. Butt said:
If these people cared about the environment they'd get rid of their amazon prime, ubereats, and regular uber apps.
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I've said that before but also said they wouldn't use phones or internet or even live on the grid, and they've all cried that THEY NEED THAT!!!!2!1!!!

I've known people who live off the grid with a 10 year old phone, no internet or anything due to morally disagreeing with being dependent on things like that and they actually survive pretty decently. It's just something you have to commit to, and it's uncomfortable at first.

These people don't want to be committed to their morals at all.

Sicko Hunter said:
Dude imagine these people listening to Zach saying he owned a Hitler youth knife on Sleepycabin their heads would explode lmao
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Lmaoo the original meme sounds like trannies.
 
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