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Were the developers of these third party apps making money off of user data?
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Protests only work if the people in power agree with you or if you have some leverage over them that they can't work around. Otherwise, they just ignore you and do whatever they want.Didn't reddit have a blackout over covid "misinformation?" I'm pretty sure reddit caved to the mods back then. They probably thought it would work a second time.
If they don't agree with you, then you have to be prepared to sacrifice, and go all in on it. Because they will use every tool at their disposal, legal and non to get rid of you. A two day blackout of subs is just an irritant and quickly forgotten. Do two months, and then maybe...maybe...Reddit might start to sweat. However with how shit Reddit is, I imagine that the world would become a better place after two months of that site being dead.Protests only work if the people in power agree with you or if you have some leverage over them that they can't work around. Otherwise, they just ignore you and do whatever they want.
Even that wouldn't work because mods provide negative value to the site. They could have just IP banned all of the striking mods and no normal user would have noticed.If they don't agree with you, then you have to be prepared to sacrifice, and go all in on it. Because they will use every tool at their disposal, legal and non to get rid of you. A two day blackout of subs is just an irritant and quickly forgotten. Do two months, and then maybe...maybe...Reddit might start to sweat. However with how shit Reddit is, I imagine that the world would become a better place after two months of that site being dead.
They made a shit ton of money. Now they're using redditors to fight their battles for them.Were the developers of these third party apps making money off of user data?
It's entirely possible. Through this blackout I learned iOS cucks were actually paying the Apollo dev for the privilege to fucking post.Were the developers of these third party apps making money off of user data?
Reddit got successful because those apps made reddit a compelling browsing experience. Reddit has NEVER been able to design a halfway decent or functional UI. Anyone who used the laughably garbage mod tools can attest, they're probably still worse than xenforo itself has. Whether it was browser addons like RES or apps like rif, reddit did not grow in isolation of those apps but because of them.They made a shit ton of money. Now they're using redditors to fight their battles for them.
Now ask why people are willing to pay Apollo but are upset about this. It's because the official app is fucking horseshit. Reddit leaned on these apps and devs when they masqueraded as a community-driven company but shit's being called in and it's money time and we see now what they really cared about. It's just funny redditors are too stupid to see it. After all the shit spez and co pulled over the years, are you guys so surprised?It's entirely possible. Through this blackout I learned iOS cucks were actually paying the Apollo dev for the privilege to fucking post.
RIF may just be old.reddit filtered through an android APK, but it never tried to pull that level of nonsense.
They made a shit ton of money. Now they're using redditors to fight their battles for them.
Not doubting you guys but where can I read more about this? Thats fucking fascinating and would flip the entire thing on its head here.It's entirely possible. Through this blackout I learned iOS cucks were actually paying the Apollo dev for the privilege to fucking post.
RIF may just be old.reddit filtered through an android APK, but it never tried to pull that level of nonsense.
Here's someone complaining about paying to post on Apollo from years back.Not doubting you guys but where can I read more about this? Thats fucking fascinating and would flip the entire thing on its head here.
Agree, but with 6. Put spez back in charge.If it gets too heated they'll do what they did last time with that Chinese woman:
1. Fire spez + generous severance package.
2. Put in a new guy.
3. Blame everything on spez.
4. Promise a lot.
5. Deliver nothing.
reddit niggercattle will be placated.
The demographics of reddit are not technical, or of the intelligentsia-class. Your average reddit janny cannot be bothered to learn how to write CSS for the subreddit they spent 10 hours a day jannying. Reddit is the peak example of the niggercattle class, midwits, NPCs, normies, etc, whatever you want to call them. There is nothing more mediocre in all ways than a redditor. This has been true since roughly ~2013 where the Slashdot-class was overtaken by the niggercattle-class, and now the literal Slashdotters (which hardly exist anymore) are a bunch of redditors. HackerNews is probably the best example of what Reddit was like prior to 2012, naive libertarian-leaning techbros.You do computer shit right? Here's a theory I had and I'd be interested in what you think.
One of the reasons that Reddit and it's mods are so unbelievably gay is that they are downstream of the day to day running of the site. I feel like the Internet would be a better place if people where forced to get into the weeds of running a forum or whatever outside of just moderation. Right now there's a small group of jannies that have massive amounts of control over any discussion but don't really have any real skin in the game.
Tech is always going to attract autistic loons but I feel like having full responsibility for a website might help broaden their horizons.
The only people that used third party apps were power users and jannies which makes up a small percentage of the Reddit user base. Most users don't even know about these apps.Reddit got successful because those apps made reddit a compelling browsing experience. Reddit has NEVER been able to design a halfway decent or functional UI. Anyone who used the laughably garbage mod tools can attest, they're probably still worse than xenforo itself has. Whether it was browser addons like RES or apps like rif, reddit did not grow in isolation of those apps but because of them.
Not doubting you guys but where can I read more about this? Thats fucking fascinating and would flip the entire thing on its head here.
Even Louis Rossman made a video on this and he is neither. Two things can be true, that reddit's usebase is incredibly faggy -and- this is a bad/stupid idea. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad spez is doing this because it's a bad idea for reddit and its community. But just because I think reddit's userbase is faggy doesn't mean I'm going to praise spez for doing something we'd hate him for doing on any other website. It's the social media equivalent of essentially closing of mod support in a video game. I'm not sure why we have to side with reddit's admins on this instead of thinking they're all faggots, which they are.The only people that used third party apps were power users and jannies which makes up a small percentage of the Reddit user base. Most users don't even know about these apps.
They run ads on their app.
Hacker News is filled with 2023 redditors, not 2011 ones. Half the users there are unironic communists with zero technical knowledge. Anything non-woke or libertarian is downvoted and every other post is sucking off the EU/China or advocating for unionization/trans rights/some other lefty cause.HackerNews is probably the best example of what Reddit was like prior to 2012, naive libertarian-leaning techbros.
Yes, you're mostly right. Most of the actual slashdotters have either aged out (literally fucking dead boomers lmao) or become compromised by globohomo because they enjoy making $300k (or trooned out). The contrast between circa 2008 Slashdot and 2023 HackerNews is stark, but you can still see embers of 2008 in Slashdot where on Reddit it has been intentionally excised.Hacker News is filled with 2023 redditors, not 2011 ones. Half the users there are unironic communists with zero technical knowledge. Anything non-woke or libertarian is downvoted and every other post is sucking off the EU/China or advocating for unionization/trans rights/some other lefty cause.
Agree to disagree then. I've seen plenty of post mocking the jannies protest saying they never heard of these apps. I've never heard of these before this protest. I agree with Spez's decision on a business level. Reddit makes no money and he needs to do something. If Elon can make Twitter users pay for a blue check mark then maybe Spez can do something similar.Even Louis Rossman made a video on this and he is neither. Two things can be true, that reddit's usebase is incredibly faggy -and- this is a bad/stupid idea. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad spez is doing this because it's a bad idea for reddit and its community. But just because I think reddit's userbase is faggy doesn't mean I'm going to praise spez for doing something we'd hate him for doing on any other website. It's the social media equivalent of essentially closing of mod support in a video game. I'm not sure why we have to side with reddit's admins on this instead of thinking they're all faggots, which they are.