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Century_Egg
136 points · 4 days ago· edited 4 days ago
Who the fuck is going to read her text wall. I stopped reading after “i’m a white female of Scandinavian, Irish and Western European descent”
It’s like..... she’s proud of her white European ancestry like she’s better than people of colour.
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mimimart
143 points · 4 days ago
Oh man, I cannot stand this shit. Nobody needs to hear you rattle off your supposed genealogy from places you have no connection to since your people left in 1800. Dude, nobody cares. You're a white American, it's fine. You don't need to have something to add when actual ethnic minorities or first and second gens state a basic fact about their lives.
Side note, I have noticed those same people turn investigative reporter when they see my family- we're all the same Muslim Bosniaks (former Yugoslavia) and my Dad is brown and my mother fair. 'But what is your Dad, really? Maybe he's Indian!' No. 'But like where are you actually from from, tho?' The lower east side, bitch.
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sapjastuff
60 points · 4 days ago
Lmao I'm Serbian and this has happened to a Bosniak friend of mine quite a few times. I hate the way Americans view race - "BuT WhERe aRE yOu ReAlLy frOm?"
Travel a little and you'll quickly realize that race is really not a black and white concept (pun intended)
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booksandcigar
26 points · 4 days ago
Exactly! I feel people, especially Americans, love to put others in their little "race" boxes and if it doesn't fit they lose their goddamn minds.
Don't even get me started about having to discuss Central Asia/MENA and it's people with them. Makes me want to blow my brains out, it's that tiring.
Travel people! And if you can't crack open a book and learn something!
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mimimart
16 points · 4 days ago
Oh my gosh, right? 'Middle Eastern' is such a reductionist term for a wide group of super diverse groups of people, cultures, and ethnicities.
I don't even try to explain what the Balkan region is because the follow up is often, 'so are they considered white or middle eastern?'
Funny aside- I lived in Harlem for 10+ years, had a Haitian neighbor who once told me how he was constantly being called 'African American.' He wasn't offended or anything, he understood their intent, but consider we lived in a neighborhood full of people actually from Africa (like 1st 2nd gen) African-Americans (black people from New York), with a smattering of Haitians, Afro-latinos, and various other New York admixture. Besides their different cultures, traditions, religions, etc, they didn't even look similar! If people just got out of their comfort zone and are around all kinds of people they'd see how stupid it is to lump everyone into such tiny categories.
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booksandcigar
10 points · 4 days ago
There's really no defending this type of ignorance either. One glance to a map will tell you all you need to know. And I hate that white or middle eastern shit. It's just another way to make another "other". I've noticed that the only ones arguing for example, whether Bosnians are white or not seem to always bring up them being predominantly Muslims. It just feels like the old Christianity vs Islam bullshit again. Us or them.I don't even try to explain what the Balkan region is because the follow up is often, 'so are they considered white or middle eastern?'
It reminds me of when a girl ethnically from Central Asia (can't remember which country but it wasn't Kazakhstan) kept getting asked "what type of Asian" she was and every time she told them they'd ask if she was Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. It was exactly like that scene from King of the Hill. Since she had more "Eurasian" features people kept thinking she was biracial. Sure, that's understandable but when she explained she wasn't they would be adamant that her ethnicity wasn't real. Like, what is that? Who just denies someones ethnicity based on how they look? A lot of dumbfucks apparently.
If it doesn't fit their preconceived notions they pretend it doesn't exist or is something else entirely. This isn't even my only example of people being like this too. Just why?
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mimimart
5 points · 4 days ago
Preach it. A huge number of average Americans think Muslim is a race.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard 'She's not white, she's Muslim' or been told I can't be from Yugoslavia/Eastern Europe/former Soviet area because: 'they aren't Muslim there.' Those same 20 questions dickheads are always so smug when they find out I'm Muslim, as if now their 'race' question has been answered.
I feel for that girl from Central Asia. It's incredible how nobody seems to think that a land mass that fucking huge is going to have a large number of ethnicities. Most of the people on my mother's side have monolids but are, again, just Bosniks, and that tends to bends peoples minds because 'you're not Chinese.' And like you, those are only a few examples.
I could go on and on but I usually don't talk about this often and try not to get upset, but I'm visiting the west with my whole extended family right now and this shit is a DAILY occurrence. And they're so openly nosey and just won't fucking stop even after my usual polite(ish) shutdowns. All from people who claim to be super liberal and denounce racism. It's really putting a damper on an otherwise lovely trip.
Aren't we (New Yorkers) supposed to be the assholes??
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booksandcigar
4 points · 3 days ago
The monolid thing rings true, they never seem to realise every single country has people with natural monolids. From East Asia all the way to Africa to South America to Scandinavia. Yet one look at someone with monolids and suddenly "Wow you must be East Asian!". Don't forget when people automatically assume every single East Asian has monolids and anyone with double eyelids just got plastic surgery since "Oh, all of them get that done!".
That really sucks, I feel you. Sadly this type of questioning comes from annoying assholes from every part of the political spectrum. I remember when I had seen Octopussy for the first time and even though it was a mess of a film (though to be fair, I barely remember any of it) I appreciated the way they portrayed the Afghan prince. He just looked like an Afghan man to me. Never knew the actor was French. Then years later when I brought it up, these open-minded and forward thinking people lambasted the film for that specific portrayal. I remember asking them what exactly an Afghan looked like and honestly I was so embarrassed for them. They thought it was more John Wayne as Ghengis Kahn or Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's than what it really was more like, Peter Sellers (an Englishman) playing Inspector Clouseau (a Frenchman). Also I know these references are old but I'm young, promise!
They just flat out said no Afghan man looked like him. That's when I figured out that no one knew what the fuck they were on about. They were so concerned in championing what they thought a group of people looked like that when it didn't fit what they thought they decided to reject it entirely.
It's so exhausting having to hear misinformation time and time again. And you could explain it once or thrice or even ten times but after that you just lose the will. It's tough trying to maintain a facade of politeness so my best advice is to just give them the bare minimum if they're insistent and if they start with the "but isn't-" you shut it down immediately. Might come off as a bit rude but it'll save you a headache. And honestly if the conversion is good outside of that particular subject then I feel the perceived rudeness would be brushed off pretty quick. Good luck!
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yarn_and_makeup_lady
3 points · 2 days ago
I'm Asian and I get asked where I'm from way too much. "Where are you from?" and then when I answer I'm from NC, "no, where are you really from"
NC you bitch
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mimimart
1 point · 4 days ago
Hello! Yes, it's super annoying, I wish it wasn't so common and people realized how offensive it is. People come in all shades and cultures and ethnic groups, and lumping them into one of like 4 categories of acceptable races is just ridiculous.
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Aer1234578
1 point · 13 hours ago
It never ceases to amaze me how naive and parochial many Americans of northern European decent are about ethnicity. In their minds,There are people with fair skinned waspy features and Everyone Else. And they tend to have a lot of trouble accurately categorizing other ethnicities. And they will get really confused and belligerent about anyone who doesn't "fit" into an easy category. Many don't seem to fucking understand that dark skinned, swarthy Europeans even exist. Like they will get so confused by the looks of Italians, Greeks,yugoslavians, etc.
There is a big skincare community on reddit of mostly women who are obsessed with skincare, fittingly called skincare addiction. There is more than one subreddit called this and some are really huge. There's also a skincare addiction circlejerk subreddit to make fun of circlejerks within that sub(s). Most of it is completely relevant to skincare and pretty harmless and funny but there is this one meme called pail princess where they mock women who include their European ancestry as part of their skin background. You typically give background when asking for advice on skincare.
A recent SCA (SkinCareAddiction) circlejerk thread became this big SJW thing talking about how Americans are so ignorant for categorizing things in only 4 races, are ignorant of other cultures and are stupid for listing their mixed ancestry. In this example OP was Irish and Nordic. I don't think that would be cringey if they were mixed with non-Euro ethnicity, right? Just a weird place to see this kind of thing.
Another thing they do is mock people for being OCD about sun protection despite the evidence that most cosmetic skin ageing is photoageing and these people are all using acids and retinoids so it would only make sense to be careful to use sunscreen. I agree with them that people over there at skincare ADDICTION do get outright neurotic about it. But the solution is not to skip sunscreen so can be liberated or whatever.
They have a hateboner and religiously hatewatch a Youtuber beauty guru vlogger and actual dermatologist called Dr. Dray. She has very nice, very beautiful pale skin. They all mental illness circlejerk together and claim just watching her videos triggers their eating disordered history, orthorexia, says she has orthorexia and that her videos trigger their OCD, traumas, paranoia/obsessions with sun protection and so forth. They speculate she is mentally ill herself and mocked her for wearing UV protecting gloves and a UV protecting mask while driving.
A circlejerk within a circlejerk. Reddit in a nutshell.
Link to pail princess race war comment cj (circlejerk):
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r/SCAcirclejerk - Comment by u/Century_Egg on ”About me: I am a white female of primarily Irish, Scandinavian and Western European origin; my skin is very pale and I am almost always the lightest shade of foundation regardless of what brand it is. I start burning within twenty minutes of being in the sun and my skin is just... Really sensitive.”
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You really have to enjoy when the thread devolves into enlightened fedora anti-veganism and fetish powerleveling. What a great sub.
It doesn't surprise me that this is the Mario 64 Parallel Universes guy.
pannenkoek isn't even using 1% of his autism power thereThat's the wild world of autism, all right.![]()
While LSC isn't closed like Fullcommunism, there's clearly an algo thing here favouring the safe politicalhumour shit.
That's one heck of a cultural motte there.