Redesigning Floraverse - Because PK is a fucking idiot

[RADICALGOBLIN]

We were thinking about it, but never actually did anything with it iirc

daaaaamn, that sucks. I would watch/read/jack off to/grill the SHIT out of whatever this ended up being

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

daaaaamn, that sucks. I would watch/read/jack off to/grill the SHIT out of whatever this ended up being

I have something in the making. I am just busy now.

 

[Adiemus]

OMG this is so

Oh my gosh this is so cute... I’m crying Thank you so much!

NP! It's honestly a cute design! I love Vanillalice.

This entire thread gives me inspiration with these designs, but I am lazy/busy/tired.
Otherwise, I would've drawn way more designs.

Has anyone tried to create a new story with all of these characters? I haven't checked in this thread for a while.

To be honest, anything anyone writes here would be better and probably more coherent than whatever the hell the plot in the comic was.

 

[Yes Man]

You're all coming up with some nice artwork here, I'm an advocate for more cis gay males being constructed from these characters, since I think my primary motivator for doing something like this would fall less into actually wanting to work with the idea, and more with wanting to make PK upset getting my robotic claws all over that CC license.

Gay boy Orobas is extremely cute. If I can find my sketchbook I might contribute just for the hell of it. I'd want to focus more on direct inspiration from their literal Goetic inspirations, some of you have done an excellent job with that already.
My main critique of Floraverse is less with the design work and more with the written personalities. Despite the vibrant and diverse characters, they all more or less behaved exactly the same and it was grating. Get some very modest, generous, shy and rational characters in here. Direct antithesis to that horrible bitchy self entitled asshole personality every single character seemed to have.

 

[Bernard Buttfart]

You're all coming up with some nice artwork here, I'm an advocate for more cis gay males being constructed from these characters, since I think my primary motivator for doing something like this would fall less into actually wanting to work with the idea, and more with wanting to make PK upset getting my robotic claws all over that CC license.

Gay boy Orobas is extremely cute. If I can find my sketchbook I might contribute just for the hell of it. I'd want to focus more on direct inspiration from their literal Goetic inspirations, some of you have done an excellent job with that already.
My main critique of Floraverse is less with the design work and more with the written personalities. Despite the vibrant and diverse characters, they all more or less behaved exactly the same and it was grating. Get some very modest, generous, shy and rational characters in here. Direct antithesis to that horrible bitchy self entitled asshole personality every single character seemed to have.

Wholeheartedly agree. If anything is ever made from this conglomeration of redesigns, I'd love to play a part in it, or at least read it. There's some very talented people on here.

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

To be honest, anything anyone writes here would be better and probably more coherent than whatever the hell the plot in the comic was.

Yeah that's kind of why i asked. I'd love to write something in this universe and with what existed in it, mainly cuz of all the amazing designs. I want to see that used to good use by giving them actual characters.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

The question is that, whenever someone talks in the original thread about exploiting the Creative Commons license or something along those lines, multiple people bring up the fact that the characters will have the taint of a child/animal rapist.

Myself, I do not care. I want to do my own thing without the Internet bossing me around...
...but there IS a certain amount of satisfaction in developing a rapist's characters without permission... especially if my developments make the characters actually better.

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

The question is that, whenever someone talks in the original thread about exploiting the Creative Commons license or something along those lines, multiple people bring up the fact that the characters will have the taint of a child/animal rapist.

Myself, I do not care. I want to do my own thing without the Internet bossing me around...
...but there IS a certain amount of satisfaction in developing a rapist's characters without permission... especially if my developments make the characters actually better.

I mean, that's not automatically a bad thing.

Hear me out.

If we use her history AGAINST her, right? The thing she's done, the things she surrounds herself, her past, why not use themes like that in the work and use the taint to transform it FURTHER? Atleast from a story perspective it'd be very clever, and slightly post modern in the context of the ethos of the original comic.

 

[Bernard Buttfart]

I mean, that's not automatically a bad thing.

Hear me out.

If we use her history AGAINST her, right? The thing she's done, the things she surrounds herself, her past, why not use themes like that in the work and use the taint to transform it FURTHER? Atleast from a story perspective it'd be very clever, and slightly post modern in the context of the ethos of the original comic.

So like having some hints of meta-humor referencing PK’s dirt? That’s a hilarious idea actually. I’m all for that.

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

So like having some hints of meta-humor referencing PK’s dirt? That’s a hilarious idea actually. I’m all for that.

Not just that, using themes of like abuse and gender and sex and all sorts of things as like core themes if there's ever an attempt to have some sort of drama or message to say, and that's put into character flaws and the like.

 

[Adiemus]

The question is that, whenever someone talks in the original thread about exploiting the Creative Commons license or something along those lines, multiple people bring up the fact that the characters will have the taint of a child/animal rapist.

Myself, I do not care. I want to do my own thing without the Internet bossing me around...
...but there IS a certain amount of satisfaction in developing a rapist's characters without permission... especially if my developments make the characters actually better.

I feel the same way. There's many series in many media that uses characters that people don't like or were used in less than favorable ways by the fans, and were brought back with a nice/new start. That's what reboots are for! To make things better... or try to.

Take a pile of shit and turn it into gold.
Or even better, take something broken and terrible and make it actually better and coherent and something people will actually really love and want to read.

I mean, that's not automatically a bad thing.

Hear me out.

If we use her history AGAINST her, right? The thing she's done, the things she surrounds herself, her past, why not use themes like that in the work and use the taint to transform it FURTHER? Atleast from a story perspective it'd be very clever, and slightly post modern in the context of the ethos of the original comic.

Not just that, using themes of like abuse and gender and sex and all sorts of things as like core themes if there's ever an attempt to have some sort of drama or message to say, and that's put into character flaws and the like.

So long as it doesn't get too angsty or goes over certain boundaries, I don't see why not. There's probably many people who can relate to such things, and maybe feel better seeing others (fictional or not) get through it in a healthy manner. It's sort of hopeful? Like, "if they can get through it, maybe *I* can too!" And of course making jabs at PK's terrible writing, storytelling, etc is always funny. Especially if, hypothetically, a rebooted/reworked Floraverse did even better than the original.

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

I feel the same way. There's many series in many media that uses characters that people don't like or were used in less than favorable ways by the fans, and were brought back with a nice/new start. That's what reboots are for! To make things better... or try to.

Take a pile of shit and turn it into gold.
Or even better, take something broken and terrible and make it actually better and coherent and something people will actually really love and want to read.




So long as it doesn't get too angsty or goes over certain boundaries, I don't see why not. There's probably many people who can relate to such things, and maybe feel better seeing others (fictional or not) get through it in a healthy manner. It's sort of hopeful? Like, "if they can get through it, maybe *I* can too!" And of course making jabs at PK's terrible writing, storytelling, etc is always funny. Especially if, hypothetically, a rebooted/reworked Floraverse did even better than the original.

Yeah, exactly, all of this. If i were writing it (which i might but i'd need to read it more heavily or find some vivian gee-esque Audiobook) i'd give it

• a cohesive storyline
• better character development
• deez nuts lol

basically everything people hated about OG Florvaverse.

And was floraverse particularly edgy? I don't think we'd be going where every single character has an uber tragic backstory, obviously. But i wouldn't want to make it seem like a jarring tonal shift.

 

[Bernard Buttfart]

Yeah, exactly, all of this. If i were writing it (which i might but i'd need to read it more heavily or find some vivian gee-esque Audiobook) i'd give it

• a cohesive storyline
• better character development
• deez nuts lol

basically everything people hated about OG Florvaverse.

And was floraverse particularly edgy? I don't think we'd be going where every single character has an uber tragic backstory, obviously. But i wouldn't want to make it seem like a jarring tonal shift.

We should definitely cut out most, if not all, of the fake-deep "surrealist" stuff she tried to attempt, like the Here Goes Nothing comics. Those were obnoxious.

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

We should definitely cut out most, if not all, of the fake-deep "surrealist" stuff she tried to attempt, like the Here Goes Nothing comics. Those were obnoxious.

I haven't read those. It's legit hard to read Floraverse.

Spoiler: nae nae

Some ideas i had.

 

[Bernard Buttfart]

I haven't read those. It's legit hard to read Floraverse.

Spoiler: nae nae

Some ideas i had.

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This is actually a fantastic premise. Will probably churn out some designs for it tomorrow.

One criticism though: let's just kill off Neon, or just have her be just another one-off side character like she was initially. I've grown to hate her so much that even if we recycle her into a good character I would probably just hate her out of reflex. I'm like the Pavlovian hulk when it comes to Neon lmfao

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

This is actually a fantastic premise. Will probably churn out some designs for it tomorrow.

One criticism though: let's just kill off Neon, or just have her be just another one-off side character like she was initially. I've grown to hate her so much that even if we recycle her into a good character I would probably just hate her out of reflex. I'm like the Pavlovian hulk when it comes to Neon lmfao

Well who would we have to replace her?

 

[Biff]

Well who would we have to replace her?

Biff.

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

Biff.

Something tells me there's a bias in this court.

 

[Bernard Buttfart]

Biff.

I second this.

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

I second this.

Im not against it entirely but i'd need to know more about his character