Regarding the apparent and imminent repeal of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act and the future of this website.

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I knew this forum was too good to be true. A place where you could actually have an opinion, a place where there were a lot of folks who-even if they weren't that intelligent--at least had a halfway decent vocabulary and writing skills.

I, for one, never took the Farms for granted. Thanks, @Null, for all you've done and for all the shit you have put up with. I always admired your brutal honesty.

ETA: I cannot bear the though of the smirking Deathfats and all the other COWS that think they WIN....
 
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Professor Paradox said:
Section 230 exists because Prodigy had moderation and CompuServe didn't .

"CompuServe was found not be at fault as, by its stance as allowing all content to go unmoderated, it was a distributor and thus not liable for libelous content posted by users. However, Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Services Co. found that as Prodigy had taken an editorial role with regard to customer content, it was a publisher and legally responsible for libel committed by customers".

Basically, null's only option if section 230 gets repealed is to turn kiwifarms into 8chan/4chan and allow any content to get posted.
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So, getting rid of the tranny jannies would save the site?
 
HensKenKline said:
Who says they won't? They will either have to completely close social media because it will not be financially feasible to run for reasons stated in OP (even Twitter can't afford 1000 lawsuits a day), or they will moderate even heavier than they already do since they have nothing to lose anymore. If there is no longer a distinction between publisher and platform, which such a step would result in, then why should they even keep *pretending* to be neutral? Any reason they even pretend is that they want to keep the protections; if they lose the protections anyway, may as well go full retard.
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Agreed. All this will do is revert things to the pre-internet state where only large media outlets with lots of money and legal teams could get any sort of message out to the public at large.

If we’re even still given the illusion of having mass communication between individuals, you can bet anything that looks remotely like criticism of MSM outlets or their cronies will be censored and “fact-checked” into oblivion.

Because you’ll no longer be a user of a service, you’ll functionally be an unpaid employee who’s assumed to represent the host company of the service you’re posting on and not get them sued.
 
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GHTD said:
So, getting rid of the tranny jannies would save the site?
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Not really. The site just becomes immediately liable for literally every piece of retardation anyone posts. So if you like any content here it's probably time to start backing it up because we're fucking doomed. I'm already planning on rearranging my time to destroy sites I hate instead of participating in ones I love. Without Section 230, it will become very, very easy to wreck shit for pure fun. I suggest others consider this option.
 
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AnOminous said:
Not really. The site just becomes immediately liable for literally every piece of retardation anyone posts. So if you like any content here it's probably time to start backing it up because we're fucking doomed. I'm already planning on rearranging my time to destroy sites I hate instead of participating in ones I love. Without Section 230, it will become very, very easy to wreck shit for pure fun. I suggest others consider this option.
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Can you take down something awful and bring VINDICATION to lowtax?
 
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AnOminous said:
Not really. The site just becomes immediately liable for literally every piece of retardation anyone posts. So if you like any content here it's probably time to start backing it up because we're fucking doomed. I'm already planning on rearranging my time to destroy sites I hate instead of participating in ones I love. Without Section 230, it will become very, very easy to wreck shit for pure fun. I suggest others consider this option.
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Begun, the site wars have.
 
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Professor Paradox said:
Section 230 exists because Prodigy had moderation and CompuServe didn't .

"CompuServe was found not be at fault as, by its stance as allowing all content to go unmoderated, it was a distributor and thus not liable for libelous content posted by users. However, Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Services Co. found that as Prodigy had taken an editorial role with regard to customer content, it was a publisher and legally responsible for libel committed by customers".

Basically, null's only option if section 230 gets repealed is to turn kiwifarms into 8chan/4chan and allow any content to get posted.
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Eh, sort of.

To my understanding, the main reason that Prodigy had content guidelines and moderation in the first place was because they wanted to be more "family oriented". Part of the reason Section 230 was written the way it was was because after that court decision, it was realized that any online service that tried to remove porn, gore, or other content of the sort would technically be considered a publisher by those standards. Hence why Section 230 has a line in it about moderation being "in good faith" -- they didn't want to discourage service providers from having any content standards. Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Services Co. was actually overruled by the passage of Section 230 of the Communications Decenency Act.

Now whether you could go back to citing Cubby, Inc. v. CompuServe Inc. as a defense if Section 230 gets obliterated, I have no idea.
 
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"230 has nothing to do with the military," said Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman James Inhofe (R-Okla.). "I agree with his sentiments ... but you can't do it in this bill. That's not a part of the bill."
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after further research, based Inhofe is going to personally rescue the kiwifarms and block the 230 repeal mongrels like the glittering muscled spartans at Thermopylae.
Professor Paradox said:
Basically, null's only option if section 230 gets repealed is to turn kiwifarms into 8chan/4chan and allow any content to get posted.
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what are you talking about? ofc 4chan is moderated and has rules.
 
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The repeal of 230 is going to suck for the entire Internet, but it's going to especially suck for retards like me who want places to express themselves freely but aren't technically savvy enough to find some sneaky alternatives. And it will probably decimate large segments of the US tech industry as well, resulting in massive economic losses in one of the few sectors where the US is still vaguely competitive. Shit-tier nerds are the real victims here.

That being said, lots of credit to @Null for opting to put aside childish things and realizing his own life matters more than sticking it to the man. It takes a lot of guts to say "I'm too old for this." Taking responsibility for your own life can be extremely sacrificial. I've met people more than twice his age whose priorities haven't matured at all.

Good luck, team. Gulag-style self published underground newsletters when?
 
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AnOminous said:
Note, the literal shit President is throwing a temper tantrum and literally endangering national security because people rated him Autistic on the Internet. That is what an absolute piece of shit garbage Trump is.
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Interesting that you're going hard on this angle when it's one of the few things he and Biden agree on.
 
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MavisBeaconTeachesSnipin said:
what are you talking about? ofc 4chan is moderated and has rules.
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They're only randomly enforced though, other than the ponies and CP rules. You can call people niggers and even though there's a rule against that you will get away with it 99% of the time.
Pointless Pedant said:
Interesting that you're going hard on this angle when it's one of the few things he and Biden agree on.
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Biden is a piece of shit too. There is literally no choice in U.S. elections that isn't a fucking piece of shit! Biden, whatever his opinion on 230, has not yet suspended funding of our entire national defense because of his temper tantrum though.
 
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AnOminous said:
They're only randomly enforced though, other than the ponies and CP rules. You can call people niggers and even though there's a rule against that you will get away with it 99% of the time.

Biden is a piece of shit too. There is literally no choice in U.S. elections that isn't a fucking piece of shit! Biden, whatever his opinion on 230, has not yet suspended funding of our entire national defense because of his temper tantrum though.
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Jorgensen at least hadn't been accused of sexual misconduct, much as I didn't necessarily agree with her policies.
 
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