EU Replacing US military support in Europe would cost $1T - The costs of like-for-like replacement of U.S. equipment and personnel would add up to approximately $1 trillion over 25 years, the study found.

Replacing US military support in Europe would cost $1T
Politico EU (archive.ph)
By Giovanna Coi
2025-05-15 12:38:20GMT

Europe could survive without United States military support — but it would take a quarter century to replace the Americans and cost as much as $1 trillion, according to a new report.

A study by the International Institute for Strategic Studies published Thursday found that a hypothetical U.S. withdrawal from Europe would leave the continent’s NATO members vulnerable to a Russian threat and faced with “stark choices” on how to fill the immense gaps.

The costs of like-for-like replacement of U.S. equipment and personnel would add up to approximately $1 trillion over 25 years, the study found. That includes one-off procurement costs ranging from $226 billion to $344 billion — depending on the quality of the equipment purchased — and additional expenses associated with military maintenance, personnel and support.

The most expensive line item on the shopping list would be 400 tactical combat aircraft, followed by 20 destroyers and 24 long-range surface-to-air missiles.

The IISS also estimated that in the event of a large-scale military operation to counter a Russian attack, the cost to replace U.S. personnel (estimated at 128,000 troops) would exceed $12 billion.

The assessment does not include other glaring gaps, the cost of which is harder to quantify. These include command and control, coordination, space, intelligence and surveillance, as well as the cost of nuclear weapons.

Europeans would also need to fill certain top jobs, like the position of supreme allied commander in Europe — NATO’s commander on the continent and its second-highest-ranking military position. With the U.S. out of the picture, they would also have to step up diplomatic coordination efforts.

Easier said than done
Filling the gap left by the U.S. in Europe would require a mix of time, long-term political commitment and more ambitious investment.

But even with unlimited political goodwill and the cash to match it, European industry would in the short term lack the capability to meet increased demand, according to the IISS. Arms manufacturers would be faced with supply chain bottlenecks, a shortage of skilled workers, and financing and regulatory constraints.

Most likely, the “buy European” dream touted by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen would not materialize for a while. Even if procurement picks up in the land sector, other sectors like naval and aerospace have seen very little investment. In some areas like rocket artillery or low-observable fighter aircraft, buying local is simply not an option.

Still, despite Europe’s continued dependency on U.S. military suppliers, there are signs of progress.

The institute’s analysis of selected procurement efforts tendered between February 2022 and September 2024 found that 52 percent of their value was awarded to European suppliers, compared to 34 percent for the United States. The “buy European” trend is likely to gain traction, according to the authors of the report.

Europe is also spending more than before to defend itself.

In the wake of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, several NATO countries stepped up their efforts to meet or exceed the alliance’s goal of spending at least 2 percent of gross domestic product on defense.

Donald Trump’s return to the White House was also an unexpected boon to proponents of European defense. The president’s demands that European allies contribute more to NATO — and his suggestion that the U.S. might abandon its defense commitments to the continent — have cast doubt on America’s reliability as an ally. That makes the idea of “genuinely European defense,” as championed by French President Emmanuel Macron, more appealing.

But cash-strapped governments only have so much wiggle room to spend more on defense while keeping their national debts under control.

Moreover, tensions in countries like Spain and Italy, which are struggling with squeezed public finances, suggest public opposition to greater military spending could also be an obstacle if Europe is left on its own.

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https://www.iiss.org/research-paper...ut--the-united-states-costs-and-consequences/ (archive.ph)
https://www.iiss.org/globalassets/m...ited-states_costs-and-consequences_052025.pdf (archive.org)
https://www.iiss.org/globalassets/m...ited-states_costs-and-consequences_052025.pdf (archive.org)
 
China minus 400 million people still has more people than Europe has now.
That's cool, but unlike Europe they've got an entire economic system built around leveraging their sheer mass of people as borderline slave labor, and it cannot sustain those sorts of shocks anymore than the traditional feudal system of Europe could survive the scarcity of labor caused by the Black Death.
 
China minus 400 million people still has more people than Europe has now.
But then the government won't be able to replace those people domestically, who also pay into all the social systems propping everything up. The only way to fix this is immigration, which the Chinese aren't fond of. China's economic trajectory is suspiciously similar to American corporations that expand too fast and then go bankrupt when they can't pay off their debt. Maybe they'll course correct, I don't know, but China has had a very "fake it 'til you make it" attitude to their growth the past three decades and it is questionable how sustainable it is.
 
Maybe they'll course correct, I don't know, but China has had a very "fake it 'til you make it" attitude to their growth the past three decades and it is questionable how sustainable it is.
How many corporations have managed to course correct? The Chinese won't and for the same reason: they'll never want to get caught admitting they made a mistake.
 
China minus 400 million people and simultaneously the largest cohort of their population becoming elderly, with all the economic strain that entails. You're thinking of demographic collapse as if they're war deaths or something and that's just not the case.
I'm of the mind that China's going to try and wage war before that group all ages out. It's a good thing for their neighbors that all they're good at waging war at is their own dissidents.

They still have a bit more of a military culture than the smug pacifists that run the EU though and the EU is going to be absolutely fucked with the Muslim Bomb primed to explode. It's the worst time possible for them to have Trump telling them to get fucked.
 
Having to do something at an enormous cost is frankly the healthiest thing that could currently happen to Europeans. Fat complacency is what allows Jews to slither into power and begin destroying a nation from within. Having to cut back on benefits and actually work will wake Europeans to the reality that no, they couldn't afford to bring in millions of filthy niggers from third world countries, and those niggers will now need to be eradicated.
 
Having to cut back on benefits and actually work will wake Europeans to the reality that no, they couldn't afford to bring in millions of filthy niggers from third world countries, and those niggers will now need to be eradicated.
Those filthy niggers have spent years killing children and committing terrorist attacks on a practically daily basis and it's only slightly moved the political needle.

Europe will put up virtually zero resistance as it is murdered by third-world browns and its epitaph will read "at least we weren't racist".
 
Those filthy niggers have spent years killing children and committing terrorist attacks on a practically daily basis and it's only slightly moved the political needle.

Europe will put up virtually zero resistance as it is murdered by third-world browns and its epitaph will read "at least we weren't racist".
The Euros and Britbongs had repeatedly put up [tepid] resistance against the invading muslim hordes. Only to be immediately put down by their governments. Until the common eurofag en masse realized this and actually do something about it, it is functionally the same as putting up zero resistance.
 
China currently has an issue where its people do not want to work 120 hours a week for peanuts, and the CCP is actively beating down unionization and anyone who generally opposes sweatshop labor. They are in a pickle.

China's already an upper-middle income country, and they're moving towards higher valued goods.

Meanwhile Europe is being replaced by Arabs and Sub-Saharans, that's a way worse situation.

I want a European to explain to me why replacing yourselves with Arabs and Sub-Saharans is somehow a better plan.

Chinese civilization will continue to flourish and develop because China remains Chinese.

European civilization is already dead, you've sold your futures to Indians, Arabs, and Sub-Saharans.

Europeans drinking copium saying China is in trouble because their population is shrinking and their incomes are getting higher!

Meanwhile, European children are having to compete with Singhs, Mohammads, and Tyrones for the rest of their lives.

America sees China as its main threat because Chinese civilization is in a much stronger situation, a homogeneous ancient and increasingly technologically advanced and industrialized society run like a well-oiled machine by authoritarians in Beijing is a bigger threat than the Europeans.

You're gonna tell me Ursula, Macron, and Starmer are somehow equal to Xi Jinping? Get out of here.

China's the sleeping dragon, a century of humiliation under the corrupt Qing dynasty made Europeans arrogant, but that's a mere 100 year blip, China's retaking its ancient position. Americans are smart and cognizant to recognise its bettee long term to work with it.
 
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Chinese civilization will continue to flourish and develop because China remains Chinese.
The Chinese communists have gone to great lengths to deny and destroy all remnants of a Chinese civilization. They are a Brave New World. Also, the Chinese are not "Chinese." There are tons of ethnic differences in China that continue to cause problems, and I'm not even referring to the Hui and Uyghur shit. China's entire history is internal civil/ethnic conflict - a united China is an aberration, historically speaking.
America sees China as its main threat because Chinese civilization is in a much stronger situation, a homogeneous ancient and increasingly technologically advanced and industrialized society run like a well-oiled machine by authoritarians in Beijing is a bigger threat than the Europeans.
China is hardly the stronger civilization. The only reason the modern Chinese state exists is through raw repression, that's it. It is also well-known that they do not innovate technology, but steal and reverse-engineer without creating new technologies.
 
China minus 400 million people still has more people than Europe has now.
That 400 million would be many of your productive citizens, leaving you with the retirees, the infirmed, and the children. That's not a win, that's economic suicide
 
The Chinese communists have gone to great lengths to deny and destroy all remnants of a Chinese civilization. They are a Brave New World. Also, the Chinese are not "Chinese." There are tons of ethnic differences in China that continue to cause problems, and I'm not even referring to the Hui and Uyghur shit. China's entire history is internal civil/ethnic conflict - a united China is an aberration, historically speaking.

China is hardly the stronger civilization. The only reason the modern Chinese state exists is through raw repression, that's it. It is also well-known that they do not innovate technology, but steal and reverse-engineer without creating new technologies.

China is literally 90% Han Chinese, you should be asking yourself when Europe is going to collapse with the hordes of Arabs, Sub-Saharans, and Indians they've imported.

Your second paragraph is invalid as Europe is now comprised of Third World peoples.

Yellow hands typed this. CHINA NUMBA WAN

I'm sorry I can't you from all the Arabic, Swahili, or Hindi, what are you saying European?

That 400 million would be many of your productive citizens, leaving you with the retirees, the infirmed, and the children. That's not a win, that's economic suicide

Right, and England's most popular baby name is Mohammad. Your point is that China should copy Europe? Lol.
 
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