Resident Evil - Virgin Vampire Wine Mom vs Chad Magnetic Lebowski

[Dr. Pasquale]

The cherry on top is that the Spencer death scene is even worse than I remembered, my memory had softened that by imagining we see him say something like "Wesker, you traitor!" before being killed, but we never even really see or hear him, he's just already dead on the ground, that is such bullshit, that is the writer taking a dump on this series and I hate it, once again I have to say that that needs to be retconned and we need a proper confrontation with Spencer, I mean since we never get a good look at him anyway how do we even know he's really dead?

I believe he does say more later, maybe in another flashback down the line or maybe in the Lost in Nightmares DLC, he and Wesker have a whole scene before Chris and Jill arrive.

It's still pretty dissappointing that one of the biggest characters in Resident Evil lore gets such a minimal role. I agree that RE5 takes itself too seriously for the type of content it has. If it had gone in the RE4 route of just being over the top silly, instead of over the top stupid, it might have fared better.

I still replay it every year or so and enjoy it from a gameplay perspective. 2 player mode is very fun (AI Partners so retarded they'll barely try and aim for headshots) and there are many good setpieces, even tho the second half of the game tends to drag a bit.

 

[Captain Syrup]

t's still pretty dissappointing that one of the biggest characters in Resident Evil lore gets such a minimal role.

It's inspired by the Blade Runner scene with Tyrell. A blond dude in a black leather coat goes to the penthouse and kills him

 

[Dr. Pasquale]

If they ever brought him back, it would be hokey and uninteresting.

They sorta did, even tho it was only mentions, in RE8.

I dunno what to feel about that and where they are taking the franchise. Miranda being the real-real-origin behind Umbrella felt kinda cheap cuz that bitch does so little in the story and has next to no personality beyond "Muh daughter".

The Mutamycite or whatever the fuck its called having the capacity to store peoples minds inside of it just seem like an easy backdoor to bring any character back from the dead.

 

[Soycast Guy]

The Mutamycite or whatever the fuck its called having the capacity to store peoples minds inside of it just seem like an easy backdoor to bring any character back from the dead.

Finally, we can revive Mike.

 

[Exbein]

I started up RE5.

Man, this game is fucking stupid.

How the hell did we go from the creepily beautiful gothic locales of REmake and RE0 to dingy, dirty African slums? It's the exact polar opposite of what this series should be, that's not keeping it "fresh", that's veering off in such a different direction you question why make it part of the series in the first place.

On top of that the writing feels very hacky, Resident Evil has always been cheesy but this is cheesy in a bad way, Japanese devs trying to imitate western games instead of doing their own thing.

The cherry on top is that the Spencer death scene is even worse than I remembered, my memory had softened that by imagining we see him say something like "Wesker, you traitor!" before being killed, but we never even really see or hear him, he's just already dead on the ground, that is such bullshit, that is the writer taking a dump on this series and I hate it, once again I have to say that that needs to be retconned and we need a proper confrontation with Spencer, I mean since we never get a good look at him anyway how do we even know he's really dead?

But I just want to finally be able to say I finished it, thankfully I've found someone on Steam who's going to help me get through it quickly since they already have a bunch of advanced weapons unlocked and are way more of an expert at it than me, what's funny is their costume of choice for Sheva is this sexy red riding hood outfit, which spruces things up a bit.

But yeah, this is a bad game, it's lacking the charm that even RE4 had, this makes me appreciate RE4 more tbh, thank goodness the series eventually got better.

TLR; Blame Sony for taking too long to release PS3 and Xbox 360 not being powerful enough to handle No Mercy mode

maybe also blame N'Gai too while we're at it

 

[Dom Cruise]

RE5 continues to be a slog but has gotten slightly more interesting, still not good though, but at least I've made it further into the game than I ever have before so this is all new to me stuff.

This really does make me appreciate RE4 a lot more though because while I'm not super crazy about RE4 either it does have a charm that RE5 distinctly lacks, like Leon's one liners, 4 is also simply a better designed game.

 

[Captain Syrup]

I seem to remember fans were pretty generous toward RE5. Maybe we were just happy to have Chris and Jill back, in addition to following up with the subplot involving Plaga.

 

[Soycast Guy]

One of my problems with RE5 is that Jill is given a back seat role. It would’ve been much more satisfying if both Chris and Jill fired the killing shots at Wesker.
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Do people still trust this motherfucker? Has it gotten through peoples heads that he isn’t an actual leaker?

whatever he says should be automatically disregarded.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I seem to remember fans were pretty generous toward RE5. Maybe we were just happy to have Chris and Jill, in addition to following up with the subplot involving Plaga. In the end it worked out for Capcom as it got more people interested in the franchise; the fans who were there beforehand stuck around out of obligation.

Those of us who would prefer a horror-based focus don't get along with those who want fluid action. And it repeatedly ends with the fracturing of the brand.

I kind of can't understand why as it's just a pale imitation of RE4, it feels tedious and dull whereas I can definitely understand why people liked RE4.

And the whole thing is so absurdly lacking in any atmosphere that could be described as "Resident Evil"

But at the same time I can understand why people were generous though, I think everyone was caught a little off guard, there would have still been enough positive feelings for the series that people's expectations would have colored the game favorably, this game came out less than 4 years after Capcom put out Haunting Ground, which is crazy to think about as we're talking the polar opposite type of game.

In other words things changed so fast that I think gamers were a little caught off guard and it was hard to swallow the downturn Japanese devs and publishers had taken, it reminds me of the way many people didn't want to admit Silent Hill Homecoming was shit when it first came out even though nobody admits to liking the game today.

By RE6 though reality would have sunken in.

Honestly this game is bringing back a lot of bad memories, there's things to be nostalgic for with 2008-2012, but for me personally watching as all my favorite Japanese game series went to shit was an incredibly painful experience, for all the faults of today that is one thing that is better now and makes me glad that era is long past, it makes me appreciate RE2 Remake, RE7 and RE8 more than I already did, the difference between those games and RE5 is night and day.

 

[Captain Syrup]

I kind of can't understand why as it's just a pale imitation of RE4

Also, I think 5 needs to be understood in context: The NAACP came out and said 5 wasn't racist. Very few journalists criticized the gameplay. It was all damage control.

Capcom made concessions to make it work co-op, but that's not what made headlines.

The irony is, you could argue that 6 is a superior game: the environments are more varied and there's more horror elements. The sticking point was the Wesker children; that chapped a lot of asses.

Also, fans didn't appreciate having to fight Simmons five times.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Memes. Memes and D.C. Douglas. He interacted with fans and made RE jokes on Twitter.

Also, I think 5 needs to be understood in context: The NAACP had to come out and say 5 wasn't racist. Very few journalists criticized the gameplay. A key part of RE4's intensity was the village, and Africa seemed like a natural evolution. Capcom made concessions to make it work co-op, but that's not what made headlines.

There was nowhere to go but down after Wesker left. The irony is, you could argue that 6 is a superior game: the environments are more varied and there's more horror elements. The sticking point was the Wesker tie-in which didn't go anywhere. That chapped a lot of asses. Also, fans didn't appreciate having to fight Simmons five times.

I meant to say that the irony is that RE6 is in some ways better than RE5 since in RE6 you at least visit a few locales which are more appropriately Resident Evil esque.

I might even be willing to say RE6 is just overall a better game, however RE6 is massively flawed as well and I don't have any plans on revisiting it.

It's funny how the western dev scene was doing pretty good over the course of the 7th gen while the Japanese dev scene went to shit, now in more recent years the Japanese dev scene has gotten better but now the western dev scene is going to shit.

 

[Captain Syrup]

It's funny how the western dev scene was doing pretty good over the course of the 7th gen while the Japanese dev scene went to shit, now in more recent years the Japanese dev scene has gotten better but now the western dev scene is going to shit.

The west is a big casino. I mean, to a layman, it's like we're trying to import Big Tech into gaming.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I don't know a lot about Japanese business attitudes. Japan always has their library of first-party games to get them through the lean times.

The west is a big casino. I mean, to a layman, it's like we're trying to import the gig economy into gaming. You can raise a billion dollars 'speculating' on Grindr for Dogs and then sell to some bag holder. And it doesn't matter, because money is going into the pockets of the 'right people'. But that's another topic.

The sad truth is that while Japan did "get better" there was damage done that they never fully recovered from, Konami bowed out of making games completely and many good devs and publishers either closed down or are barely a thing.

There's about 3 main things that really got better, Capcom, Nintendo and From Software, outside of those 3 what else really is there? Square Enix is a mixed bag at best still putting out embarrassments like Balan Wonderworld and embarrassing themselves by also trying to be a western AAA publisher, I guess you also have a few smaller things like SNK, Arc System Works and Atlus that are doing pretty good as well as Bandai Namco and Sega are doing alright, but this is hardly like the peak days of the PS1 and PS2.

However don't get me wrong, things could be way, way worse, which is what I'm thankful for, at least this is not like 2009-2012.

It's just a real shame about Konami though.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

One of my problems with RE5 is that Jill is given a back seat role. It would’ve been much more satisfying if both Chris and Jill fired the killing shots at Wesker.
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View attachment 2487909View attachment 2487910Do people still trust this motherfucker? Has it gotten through peoples heads that he isn’t an actual leaker?

whatever he says should be automatically disregarded.

The only thing that can get me interested is if they aren't going to do 1st person again. 3rd person was fine and can still produce horror without a nauseatingly low FOV.

 

[Captain Syrup]

It's just a real shame about Konami though.

"Castlevania? POW! God of War rip-off. Metal Gear Solid? POW! Zombie survival.

Silent Hill? POW! Homecoming. POW! Shattered Memories. POW! Cancel Silent Hills.

'I think it's dead now, Konami.' 'Are you sure? I think that part twitched.' POW! Pachinko machine." - Yahtzee

 

[Dom Cruise]

"Castlevania? POW! God of War rip-off. Metal Gear Solid? POW! Zombie survival.

Silent Hill? POW! Homecoming. POW! Shattered Memories. POW! Cancel Silent Hills.

'I think it's dead now, Konami.' 'Are you sure? I think that part twitched.' POW! Pachinko machine." - Yahtzee

What's funny is I actually like Shattered Memories a lot, but it still doesn't compare to 1-3, it's just so much better than everything else Konami was coming out with at the time.

What's also funny is I didn't play Castlevania Lords of Shadow or RE6 when they first released, I waited until the fall of 2014 for both of them, I might have even played them back to back, but I decided to finally given them a fair try, but I only confirmed they're shit.

Curiosity can be a bitch though and sometimes it's best just to get it over with, which is why I'm currently suffering through RE5 lol.

That was such a fucking bitch though when Silent Hills gave me hope only for Konami to cancel it and come out with a fucking Pachinko machine lmao.

 

[Soycast Guy]

What's funny is I actually like Shattered Memories a lot, but it still doesn't compare to 1-3

Shattered memories is pretty much the best out of the post team silent games. It knows it’s place and doesn’t try to be canon.

origins is the worst offender. It masquerades as a prequel story but gets so much info wrong it hurts, especially the whole “Alessa is evil” shit. Once again, ALESSA IS NOT FUCKING EVIL.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Shattered memories is pretty much the best out of the post team silent games. It knows it’s place and doesn’t try to be canon.

origins is the worst offender. It masquerades as a prequel story but gets so much info wrong it hurts, especially the whole “Alessa is evil” shit. Once again, ALESSA IS NOT FUCKING EVIL.

The fact that Shattered Memories is it's own continuity does indeed help a lot, would have been interesting to see a follow up, not necessarily a reimaging of 2, but maybe an all new story set in that version of Silent Hill, with maybe Dr Kaufman as your therapist again as the connecting tissue.

In fact I really have no clue why Konami didn't task Climax with making another Silent Hill as they were clearly starting to get somewhere.

The irony with Origins is as a game it's better than Homecoming or Downpour, but the story is definitely garbage.

 

[Captain Syrup]

origins is the worst offender. It masquerades as a prequel story but gets so much info wrong it hurts, especially the whole “Alessa is evil” shit. Once again, ALESSA IS NOT FUCKING EVIL.

iT hAs GoOd MuSiC aNd ArT dIrEcTiOn

Fans would rather have games like Downpour than no games at all. Nostalgia isn't rational.

 

[Dom Cruise]

iT hAs GoOd MuSiC aNd ArT dIrEcTiOn

Fans would rather have games like Downpour than no games at all. If Konami weren't so focused on gambling, we would have gone the way of Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm sure of it. Nostalgia isn't rational.

Meanwhile I'm glad the series went dormant rather than continue to crank out westernized junk, although as I said I would have been willing to give Climax another try.