[Resolved] Domain Registrar & Epik's Seizure

[HahaYes]

Most of it is already across the thread but here's a condensed archive of the Epik LLC xitter account greatest hitstm over the last 24-48 hours:

Spoiler: Archive URLs

https://archive.is/ANPlZ
https://archive.is/E6Xco
https://archive.is/yyf3S
https://archive.is/oRzTh
https://archive.is/pUeTY
https://archive.is/4ryxo
https://archive.is/NTr9V
https://archive.is/ttqN2
https://archive.is/HkK1p
https://archive.is/Jp42N
https://archive.is/WeKft
https://archive.is/zJoSc
https://archive.is/RA7RC
https://archive.is/o1O90
https://archive.is/t27tE
https://archive.is/u5Mul
https://archive.is/hTrlS
https://archive.is/Q9uej
https://archive.is/kmri3
https://archive.is/JZLIp
https://archive.is/bIp89
https://archive.is/qCpnd
https://archive.is/24oZf
https://archive.is/FwoBh
https://archive.is/dmxiy

 

[30+GameOvers]

Funny how the site suffered a DDoS attack shortly after Josh claimed he wanted to sue for defamation, and thousands of people made it clear they're willing to pitch in.
Somebody is scared. Good

 

[AltisticRight]

Terrahost is owned by Rob Monster as of 2021-2022 according to the websites and blogs I read.
Rob either owns a very large stake, or owns it outright.



Edit:
According to DoxedIn, Sten Huseby is no longer affiliated with Terrahost. There is no mention of Terrahost whatsoever, however, he's not active on the site.
Andreas is still the CEO.

They appear to be a small company with less than a dozen full-time employees.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Is it new that kiwifarms.net redirects to kiwifarms.st again? A response to this thread?

 

[AltisticRight]

Is it new that kiwifarms.net redirects to kiwifarms.st again? A response to this thread?

There's something wrong with the .hk domain.
See the telegram updates.

 

[afounder]

ETA: Nvm I figured out what I was doing wrong.

Anyway here's another known dipshit piling on and buying the lies.

https://nitter.net/SanctionedStop/status/1749931887785611277

https://twitter.com/SanctionedStop/status/1749931887785611277

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She's referencing our domain suspension on of SS and my other domains on Epik in 2021 where Robert Davis did yell at me and said I was no longer welcome at Epik.

Me posting her publicly available address and name after they decided to dox me and stalk myself and every contact I make on Twitter or any other platform.

During the Epik hack, my information was leaked and used to go after me for hosting a completely legal website. Because there was no legal recourse, my identity was revealed by the NYT due to this hack and subsequently I had to resign.

Epik is the main reason my identity was revealed and there are reports that they knew about a vulnerability weeks before they were actually breached. Their negligence let to the media harassment and other threats that myself and my family received.

Therefore, I will be looking into my legal options in regards to Epik and their handling of that situation because they were in the wrong and they had ample warning to mitigate this breach.

 

[trash cat]

Apologies for the double post, but while doing a search I did find a random presentation regarding Kingdom Ventures/Kingdom Companies, LLC and it does include Terrahost. It appears to have a Copyright for 2022 on it, but no date that I saw.

Here. (A)

This is great info, thank you. I have more to share on all this but I'll keep this post brief.

Kingdom Ventures predates the Epik restructuring and as of 2022 probably owned part of Epik (and Epik's acquisitions like Terrahost, Bitmitigate, and Kobalt media)

Can anyone figure out who actually owns Terahost?

I've dug into this and it's very confusing, so tread with caution.

Make sure you source dates on any information.

As of June 8th 2023 , Epik Holdings LLC was renamed to Kingdom Ventures. Epik the registrar and Terrahost were both rolled into the new entity Epik LLC. Everything else including Masterbucks, went to (new entity?) Kingdom Ventures, of which Rob Monster is the majority shareholder.



I don't know who owns the new Epik LLC. The court filings don't say who owns it. Terrahost is one of the few things that became part of the new Epik LLC (as of June 2023).

It's not clear if there have been more changes after that date. Hope this helps.

Source 1 ( archive 1 )
Source 2 ( archive 2 )

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

I have no idea if this is of any use, but theres an autistic forum that discusses the buying and selling of domains. They are pretty pissed Rob Monster and try to do some detective work. Looks somewhat promising Forum Source

They reference This site (Archive) to monitor the owner of Terrahost which suggests Terrahost AS's largest shareholder is Epic Holdings, Inc, but I have no idea if this is updated.

Is it possible that LFJ threatened to turn Rob over to the feds due to his fraudulent business practices unless he suspended The Farms?
Edit: Someone already discovered this thread months ago.

 

[BallsOfaKiwi]

Null, if you do this and you don't use the money for the trial that is the end of the credibility of the site.
Paying back people is difficult and often a pain in the ass with these things.
It might not be that you intended to scam anyone, most people don't. What happens is that the donations don't quite get up to that number initially sought or people have a change of hearts or the lawyers tell them something new.

And then you're sitting there with 75.000 dollars +/- and asking yourself "what should I do, how do I even fix this, might as well keep it cause it's a pain in the ass to refund crypto donations and its gonna go to maintaining the site in some way anyway".


The world needs Kiwifarms, just be sure before you embark on this and have a fall-back-plan on how to either refund people or what to do with the money if it doesn't go through.

 

[The Connected Nose]

Reverse example: a 50-y.o. man has sex in Greece with a Greek 14-y.o. girl. You would probably say he is a paedo based on your conception of US law even if the act is legal in Greece and he is not legally a paedo there. The psychiatric definition of a paedophile is someone who likes children who have not attained puberty.

If the 50y/o man is a US citizen, then it doesn't matter what the law is in Greece, he could and would be punished by US authorities. The psychiatric definition wouldn't matter, either. The charge would be child molestation, statutory rape, corruption of a minor, or similar. Because a 14y/o is still a child, and the autistic degenerate argument of pedophile vs ephebiphile don't come into play. They're simply charged with molesting a child. Which is exactly what that is. Things are this way specifically to have an avenue to punish citizens who travel to countries with lower ages of consent and engage in behaviors that would be prohibited under US law.

KF is a US-based website, under a US-based LLC, and therefore US laws apply. And Epik (a US-based company subject to US laws) falsely stated as a matter of fact that KF hosted "child porn", which has a very specific definition in US law. And in this matter, US law is the only law that matters.

And because CP is such a heinous crime in the US, Epik has committed libel per se, which according to Cornell Law School, includes "statements that falsely claim that a person committed a crime of moral turpitude and claims that a person suffers from a “loathsome disease.”" And unlike regular cases of defamation, in libel per se, malice is presumed, and damages may be recovered without the plaintiff needing to plead or proving special damages.

Epik can say that the loli pictures may be legal in the US but are punished as child porn in many countries.

Again, what the law is in other countries has zero bearing on claims made by a US company subject to US laws, against another US company subject to US laws. Epik made the claim of CP, which has a very clear definition in US law, and if they can't prove that claim, then they're guilty of libel per se. There may be arguments about obscenity laws depending on jurisdiction, but again, that's not at all what was claimed. And it would, ostensibly be easy enough to point to obscene material being removed in a timely manner as an indication that it is not allowed. And if it was posted AFTER all this started, point to the upload timestamps as evidence it was a bad faith action taken to bolster the aforementioned libelous allegations.

 

[Dyn]

This won't be a popular post but I think nudes should just be disallowed except in rare or vetted circumstances, like if it's obviously consensual for-profit pornography.

Consensual for-profit pornography is even more problematic than 'revenge porn' because you're infringing on a copyright.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

Reverse example: a 50-y.o. man has sex in Greece with a Greek 14-y.o. girl. You would probably say he is a paedo based on your conception of US law even if the act is legal in Greece and he is not legally a paedo there. The psychiatric definition of a paedophile is someone who likes children who have not attained puberty.

this is coming from the same country where fucking each others boy holes were commonplace. i'll be damned if the greeks have any authority on how consent laws should be operated.

 

[Twinkie]

Consensual for-profit pornography is even more problematic than 'revenge porn' because you're infringing on a copyright.

It's easy to make transformative alterations to copyrighted material so that it can stay up under fair use doctrine, including pornographic material. I remember having to do that with Onision's OnlyFans leaks

 

[Dyn]

It's easy to make transformative alterations to copyrighted material so that it can stay up under fair use doctrine, including pornographic material. I remember having to do that with Onision's OnlyFans leaks

It's also easy for millionaire internet prostitutes to contest that in ways that would be very expensive. I'm not saying we shouldn't host it, I'm just saying it's currently more legally problematic than keeping AdeZero's tits up.

 

[Fake Steve Franssen]

As of June 8th 2023 , Epik Holdings LLC was renamed to Kingdom Ventures. Epik the registrar and Terrahost were both rolled into the new entity Epik LLC. Everything else including Masterbucks, went to (new entity?) Kingdom Ventures, of which Rob Monster is the majority shareholder.

I don't know who owns the new Epik LLC, but it might be in court filings. Terrahost is one of the few things that became part of the new Epik LLC (as of June 2023).

You're right. My previous post linked to a page which has all the assets included and excluded in the sale from seller Epik Holdings Inc (Rob Monsters ). Terrahost is included.

Included:



Excluded:

 

[The Connected Nose]

Can you prove damages?

Not necessary with libel per se. The accusations themselves are the damage.

 

[BallsOfaKiwi]

Not necessary with libel per se. The accusations themselves are the damage.

How do you calculate that though? Is it based on peoples relative wealth? Does a rich person get more than a poor person? Does someone with a business get more than someone without? And then we're back at calculating again?

 

[Yeeted Teet]

Later, there will be an escrow. An attorney will manage the escrow. Escrow money will only be available for its stated purpose. You will have two options: an online fundraising page which will accept card, or check / money order by mail. The escrow will accept money by post from a different address than what is publicly listed for the Kiwi Farms now.

Can the page be set up to accept payments from prepaid gift cards/currencies other than USD for the internationals who'd prefer not to attach their full legal names to the Farms? I've seen sites that reject foreign or gift cards before so it's no a given that every system will take them.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Null, if you do this and you don't use the money for the trial that is the end of the credibility of the site.
Paying back people is difficult and often a pain in the ass with these things.
It might not be that you intended to scam anyone, most people don't. What happens is that the donations don't quite get up to that number initially sought or people have a change of hearts or the lawyers tell them something new.

And then you're sitting there with 75.000 dollars +/- and asking yourself "what should I do, how do I even fix this, might as well keep it cause it's a pain in the ass to refund crypto donations and its gonna go to maintaining the site in some way anyway".


The world needs Kiwifarms, just be sure before you embark on this and have a fall-back-plan on how to either refund people or what to do with the money if it doesn't go through.

this is why I think people shouldn't be saying "just mail a money order to the LLC" right now with reference to this specific issue. It's only been a few hours and there are ways it can be done better for those wishing to support this specific goal (and it sounds like it's in the works).

 

[BallsOfaKiwi]

this is why I think people shouldn't be saying "just mail a money order to the LLC" right now with reference to this specific issue. It's only been a few hours and there are ways it can be done better for those wishing to support this specific goal (and it sounds like it's in the works).

Yeah, He already put some info in the OP lower down about escrows which is awesome by him. The only question/missing info that remains is what happens to that money if the project doesn't go through.
I've not donated to anything in a while but I'd love to see this fight go through just for the Achilles vs Goliath battle its gonna be and the fact that they finally stepped into something that makes it possible to fight back.