[Resolved] Domain Registrar & Epik's Seizure

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Should we sue Epik LLC?

  • Yes, I'll chip in.

    Votes: 1,709 55.2%
  • Yes, but I'm broke.

    Votes: 1,220 39.4%
  • No.

    Votes: 79 2.6%
  • No, but I'll chip in regardless.

    Votes: 86 2.8%

  • Total voters
    3,094
Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".

These are both false, and these are both instances of actionable per se defamation. The damage of these claims is inherent in the claim and they are already being parroted by adversaries for the purposes of trying to further erode our ability to find stability and sure footing on the Internet.

Epik is a Wyoming LLC, X is a California LLC, and Kiwi Farms is a West Virginia LLC. To pursue this, I would have to find a lawyer in one of these jurisdictions. I don't know any.

Taking a case to trial is at least $75,000. However, they would be able to pay because they are a big company, and this would be an amazing step for being able to show providers: Yes, we are legal, and yes, we are taking steps to remedy actionable defamation to the contrary.

I've put up a poll. I am already dealing with litigation and saving money for another case. Would the community itself actually want to finance litigation?


Edit: I will find a way to get fiat working so you don't need crypto, but special crypto wallets can also be set up.

You'll get Fiat working? Don't have much, but once I get my next paycheck I'd be willing to throw at least ten bucks towards the cause.
 
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Who is this faggot who's offering to upload CP?
$20 say it's brybry.

As usual people don't get or refuse to understand that the method to identify offending materials does NOT involve posessing the materials in any shape or form, they are more often than not identified via hashes from which you cannot possibly recover any images from.

It's the equivalent of saying that because I know the barcode for a bag of doritos from walmart I can then produce a bag of doritos from it.
 
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How much would an individual user need to chip in for you to say they are doing their due diligence for voting. I'm not rich but I can and will donate a bit but I'd like to know how much before pressing I will donate option.
It's not that serious man, it's a poll on a gossip forum. Clicking yes does not harvest your credit card number. Look, I can even post mine and the website auto-censors it, XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX, exp date XX/XX CVV XXX. Neat, huh?
 
It's not that serious man, it's a poll on a gossip forum. Clicking yes does not harvest your credit card number. Look, I can even post mine and the website auto-censors it, XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX, exp date XX/XX CVV XXX. Neat, huh?
This is probably one of the more serious posts here. I am just one user so how much I donate probably doesn't matter in the big picture but I want to make sure I can honor what I say especially since this is a financial promise of a sort.
 
I don't have any crypto, but if there is a reasonable way for me to contribute or if Jersh blesses some tutorial for dummy me I could spare a few monerinos.
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Who is this faggot who's offering to upload CP?
Don't know, but the jannies will be busy tonight.

Has null acknowledged this interpretation of the initial xeet? I imagine it is pretty important to consider for the first imputation.
Yes:
Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".
That's why we're gearing up for war.

I'm so sorry Null. If I could afford to help fund it, I definitely would. But at this time, I can't even afford true and honest. :( Good luck man.
I'll donate for you.
 
Everyone worries about being doxed, but that's the least of our concerns. Allowing them to hold fear of doxing over you is letting the enemy have more weapons.
I have every intention to send a money order (can't block those, Big Tech.), and put my damn return address on the envelope. Let the enemy know I do not fear that they know my name. Let them come for me at my address. I've got plenty of Find Out for them if the come to fuck around.
 
KF's provided me with more than enough entertainment over the years to convince me to throw in some money if there's a decent chance of this amounting to anything.
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Null, I will happily donate to the suit to wipe the smirk off these unfunny faggots faces.
wtf is this shit even. It's not even offensive, just dumb and bizarre.
 
This is probably one of the more serious posts here. I am just one user so how much I donate probably doesn't matter in the big picture but I want to make sure I can honor what I say especially since this is a financial promise of a sort.
The willingness matters, and it adds up. As I outlined on page 75, At 1000 willing donors, $75 per person covers the entire $75,000 target, and Null is not saying "pay me now." Keep in mind he's constantly getting secret crypto donations, he sells merch regularly, and collects a lot of superchats on stream twice a week. If you feel compelled to donate to him early in small doses, the stream superchats are the easiest, most normie way to give him money. You can always persue crypto donos at any time at the bottom of every page, and he has someone in the U.S. to send money orders to now. I'm pretty sure I've already given him $75 dollars in the past 2 months, but it was to make him say funny things on camera.
 
If you are rich enough to want to send $10,000 or more then DO NOT DO THIS. It's considered "structuring" and will likely get you a visit from some very unpleasant folks.
Banks, etc, are all required to report any transactions of $10,000 or over, so if they think you're trying to avoid that then they assume you're doing it for a nefarious purpose and not sponsoring a fruit based lawsuit.
You are correct, however it can be done correctly, you just need to spread it out over days. Ideally with a mix of cash and different debit cards with different banks.
How do I know all this? Well there is something in the credit card/flight/hotel rewards community called "churning" or manufactured spending. Its a dark art of sorts. You know those introductory rewards points that people get they spend $8000 or something in the first month? People go buy Visa gift cards to jack up their credit card statement to get the points or miles, then liquidate the cards using money orders. Its even trickier because theres usually limits of $200 you can extract from the gift cards and their banks sometimes shut them down if they redeposit too many money orders into one account. It looks likes money laundering but isn't. Also the issuing credit card banks don't like people racking up miles like that either. Theres a whole thread on the business travel forum FlyerTalk where people have been doing it for years. So you get a bunch of business guys having different bank accounts and cards to get the diamond status on hotels and airlines. It gets super autistic with people counting the months when they can reapply for the Citi Rewards cards to get free miles for their trip to Fiji or Italy.
 
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