Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

Celebrate Nite said:
To be fair, a good chunk of that is mostly SNK/Capcom stuff with Namco/Sega being 2nd and third place, but even then, yea.... there are alot of fighters that nobody has ever heard of or even talks about.

Breakers Revenge, Fighters History Dynamite, and Outlaws Of The Lost Dynasty are just a few examples. The former made by a company called VISCO, and the latter are two Data East games with FHD being that game that got them sued by Capcom and OOTLD needing Saturn hardware to play (which is self-explanitory as to why nobody has ever heard of it).
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Also the game sticks include a lot of minor hacks of games, like you'll have a SF2 where Ryu's fireball is red, another where it's yellow, etc.
 
HexFag said:
I'm not complaining or anything like that, but is there a reason why Ryujinx never gets hit by these DMCAs?
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I think Ryujinx has had a more conservative approach and less external/internal pirate advocacy than Yuzu had going on. You can check the lawsuit coverage for more details. This DMCA targets Yuzu clones because Nintendo thinks that they have copied something illicit that Yuzu did or were scared into confessing to, or Nintendo just knows they can get away with it and Microsoft-run GitHub will be happy to comply.

But Nintendo bides its time before striking when they feel like it, so Ryujinx might not be safe forever. Everything needs to be backed up, and emulator devs should stay anonymous.
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
I think Ryujinx has had a more conservative approach and less external/internal pirate advocacy than Yuzu had going on. You can check the lawsuit coverage for more details. This DMCA targets Yuzu clones because Nintendo thinks that they have copied something illicit that Yuzu did or were scared into confessing to, or Nintendo just knows they can get away with it and Microsoft-run GitHub will be happy to comply.

But Nintendo bides its time before striking when they feel like it, so Ryujinx might not be safe forever. Everything needs to be backed up, and emulator devs should stay anonymous.
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Most of those are really on the nose about being Yuzu derivatives. Guess subtlety really isn't a thing anymore.
 
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Gamepads said:
Most of those are really on the nose about being Yuzu derivatives. Guess subtlety really isn't a thing anymore.
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Despite the name, "Suyu" thought it was safe:

Here’s how the makers of the “Suyu” Switch emulator plan to avoid getting sued (archive)
The No. 1 rule listed on the Suyu Discord is that "piracy is prohibited." That includes any talk about downloading games or "asking for system files, ROMs, encryption keys, shader caches, and discussion of leaked games etc." Even a mention of the word piracy with regard to legal questions is enough to earn a warning on the Discord, according to those rules.

Behind the scenes, Sharpie says that the Suyu developers are hard at work "removing all references to Yuzu or Tropic Haze [the LLC set up to run the Yuzu Patreon] from the source code" for Suyu. On a more technical level, Sharpie also said the team is changing certain DRM-circumvention code to help avoid legal liability.
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Switch emulator Suyu hit by GitLab DMCA, project lives on through self-hosting (archive)
A Suyu Discord moderator going by the handle Princess Twilight Sparkle shared a message Thursday evening citing the project's "legal team" in reporting that Suyu will have to use the self-hosted Git repo "in the foreseeable future. Getting our GitLab back most likely needs us to go through a lawsuit, which is going to be very difficult... Thanks for your understanding."

Troy, listed as a "Core Suyu Developer" in the Discord server, wrote Thursday afternoon that the DMCA request came from an "unknown source" and that there is "no way to confirm" if Nintendo was involved.
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Anti Alien Alarm said:
Almost finished OG Medal Of Honor and really enjoying it. And I would like to know, what are some other good shooters on PSX? I'm aware of the sequel.
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Destructor is decent.

There's a port of Dark Forces, but I don't know if it's any good or how it holds up. The PC game was considered a classic. Ditto Rainbow Six.

If you're good with third person. Future Cop LAPD is hugely underrated imo. The Die Hard Trilogy, and Siphon Filter games were great in their day, but I don't know if they hold up. Team Buddies is a weird one but has a great charm to it.

It was also a great era for vehicle combat games like Twisted Metal and Vigilante 8.

One more FPS recommendation, sort of. Resident Evil Survivor is clunky, has reused Resident Evil 2 assets, and a story that is so dumb it's wraps around from being bad, all the way around to good, then proceeds to lap itself and land on awful. However, it's fairly easy, and very short, beatable in 90 minutes even when played casually. I'm not sure you could even save mid game now that I think about it. If you're a Resident Evil fan, it's a no brainer. If you're playing on emulator and want something you blaze through, throw it on the lowest difficulty and wrap it up in a day or two.

Edit: Dino Crisis 2 is one of the best games ever made. Not sure if it counts as a "shooter", but it's definitely an action game.
 
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Judge Dredd said:
There's a port of Dark Forces, but I don't know if it's any good or how it holds up.
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I played it back in the day. I can't say if it holds up or not, but I remember it working fine.

Anti Alien Alarm said:
Almost finished OG Medal Of Honor and really enjoying it. And I would like to know, what are some other good shooters on PSX? I'm aware of the sequel.
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I've seen The World is Not Enough mentioned favorably. I've never played it. Here's a longplay, see for yourself:
 
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So i tried the "Gamestick 3D Games" and it blows the M8 out of the waters, Asterix & Obelix on Mame worked, allthough there was some smaller issues. One big flaw i saw kind of right away was randomly missing sound effects, like for example, the sound for when moving the cursor in Deja Vu (NES) is intact, but the room transition effect is gone. So everything i hoped the M8 Retro gamestick could do this could, even the PSX emulation was kind of ok. I played along for 2 hours and never had to reboot the stick... exept for when you play NDS games, there aint no "exit option" for those games for some reason. So if you have a kid you'd want to try out retro gaming with and don't want any sticky fingers on your computer and you are on a budget, i would say it is ok! Perhaps good even (but i'll have to play and try more before i could say that with a conciense)

Oh yeah the smoothing effect is kind of weird, i enjoyed the hell out of it on some Master System games (Psycho Fox has never looked this gorgeous before) but on some games it is jarring. I guess they hid the option behind a code, have enjoyed myself too much with this to bother TBH.
 
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deeman said:
So i tried the "Gamestick 3D Games" and it blows the M8 out of the waters, Asterix & Obelix on Mame worked, allthough there was some smaller issues. One big flaw i saw kind of right away was randomly missing sound effects, like for example, the sound for when moving the cursor in Deja Vu (NES) is intact, but the room transition effect is gone. So everything i hoped the M8 Retro gamestick could do this could, even the PSX emulation was kind of ok. I played along for 2 hours and never had to reboot the stick... exept for when you play NDS games, there aint no "exit option" for those games for some reason. So if you have a kid you'd want to try out retro gaming with and don't want any sticky fingers on your computer and you are on a budget, i would say it is ok! Perhaps good even (but i'll have to play and try more before i could say that with a conciense)

Oh yeah the smoothing effect is kind of weird, i enjoyed the hell out of it on some Master System games (Psycho Fox has never looked this gorgeous before) but on some games it is jarring. I guess they hid the option behind a code, have enjoyed myself too much with this to bother TBH.
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If you’re willing to put in a bit more time+effort+money, you could also go for a mini PC. Install Batocera to a flash drive (or if it comes with an SSD, you could install Linux to a flash drive then use that to install Batocera to the main drive) and FTP your games over, and you have a device that can breeze through at least N64/DS/PSP depending on what you get. You can also enable Kid Mode to block off settings.

Of course, that all defeats the purpose of a cheap plug-and-play device. I wish someone like Anbernic would just make “[popular emulation handheld] but as an HDMI stick”; people would eat it up! I tried to recreate that experience with one of those Windows PC sticks and flashing Lakka but I got mine used off eBay and it barely worked.
 
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Lone MacReady II said:
Mario sunshine is such a vibe. The second you start playing it combined with the music and the design doc of "mario on vacation" materializes perfectly.
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It's so good, the flaws just melt away under the aesthetic and fun of the controls, the jetpack should've become standard.
 
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SSj_Ness said:
It's so good, the flaws just melt away under the aesthetic and fun of the controls, the jetpack should've become standard.
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it's weird, I love playing the game casually, but getting 100% is a fucking nightmare.
The physics are kinda wonky but that adds to the charm imo.
 
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The Cunting Death said:
it's weird, I love playing the game casually, but getting 100% is a fucking nightmare.
The physics are kinda wonky but that adds to the charm imo.
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I never 100%'d a Mario anyway, just doesn't appeal to me, but I do hear it's a bitch to complete. A proper remaster could really help it, mostly the infamous sections like lilli pads and pachinko. I think it's just a matter of time until we get a Wind Waker-esque version of SMS.
 
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SSj_Ness said:
I never 100%'d a Mario anyway, just doesn't appeal to me, but I do hear it's a bitch to complete. A proper remaster could really help it, mostly the infamous sections like lilli pads and pachinko. I think it's just a matter of time until we get a Wind Waker-esque version of SMS.
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I have a savefile from around the time of covid that's 99.9% complete, I just need to get 3 blue coins in the first world but its such a bitch and a half to find that I still haven't done it because its not fun to get.

I agree that I hope a remaster comes through sometime because of those issues. Again I don't hate the game, I find it really fun and comfy if you're just doing a normal run.
 
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I have a savefile from around the time of covid that's 99.9% complete, I just need to get 3 blue coins in the first world but its such a bitch and a half to find that I still haven't done it because its not fun to get.

I agree that I hope a remaster comes through sometime because of those issues. Again I don't hate the game, I find it really fun and comfy if you're just doing a normal run.
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That's really close to 100%, you may as well push through just to say you did lol. But yeah, not all of it's fun. I quit it back in the day because of the mandatory Chuckster stage, that had to be improperly tested.
 
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