Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

[Never Scored]

Does anyone here have experience using hyperkin clone systems? I've recently bought a mega retron hd, it's pretty nice, even has good hdmi output, it's made me want to try out their snes clone system.

Their SNES and Genesis clones are generally close enough, just some colors slightly off. However avoid their NES clones at all costs. The sound is super fucked up.

 

[Two Dollars]

Any recommendation for a good “emulation/retro handheld news” site? Retro Dodo is bringing my figurative ‘tism to a boil.

Spoiler: sperging

They just posted an article about the first public prerelease of Azahar, the Citra fork which unifies Lime3DS and PabloMK7’s fork into a single emulator. The amount of stuff this gets wrong, holy shit:

1. It acts like Azahar is a completely new emulator when it’s been highly anticipated (and buildable) for months.
2. It acts like OG Citra was the last 3DS emulator when Azahar itself is a combination of two highly-popular forks that each make the final official Citra release obsolete.
3. It says Azahar doesn’t support .3ds file extensions like it’s some sort of not-yet-implemented feature that has a workaround, when .3ds and .cci are literally the same rom and you just have to rename the extension (the devs even said this themselves).
4. The description of Azahar’s features is just taken from the latest blogpost, which only covers one or two brand new features and ignores all the other developments throughout the last year compared to Citra.
5. “WhEn WiLl NiNtEnDo TaKe It DoWn?????” Never, retards. Citra was only collateral damage in the Yuzu takedown as a result of all repos from the main devs being taken down. The fact that Nintendo never touched any of the Citra forks while autistically combing the internet for anything related to Yuzu should say everything.

And the stuff they cover in general seems random; they’ll write about major news days late (assuming they cover it at all), but rush for stuff no one cares about like Burger King having Cartoon Network toys in Brazil. I’ll take my top hats and puzzle pieces, just had to get this off my chest.

 

[marvlouslie]

I'm finding myself using GOG more and more given the classic games they tend to have, and what I'm interested in. Their sales are sometimes even better than Steam.

 

[NickDigger]

If only GoG wasn't owned by faggots:

 

[LifeAlert]

>"can't wait to play some arcade games again today! They worked perfectly last time so I expect they'll also work perfectly today!"
>fire up retroarch
>select game
>select finalburn neo
>"SORRY NIGGER YOUR ROMS DON'T WORK ON THIS VERSION ANYMORE HARHARHAR"
>mfw

If only GoG wasn't owned by faggots:
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There's a better way to get games with no DRM and best of all you don't have to pay faggot cuckolds. How the fuck do GAME DOWNLOADS affect sustainability or the environment? This is retarded

 

[NickDigger]

FBN is pretty lenient about romsets in my time with it, it's MAME that's gay about having perfectly decrypted romsets with the precise version you're using. You also didn't mention you updated the core after "firing up retroarch".

 

[Calandrino]

If only GoG wasn't owned by faggots:
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Wow, that is very heterosexual, compared to CD Projekt Red's page

 

[Bruce LaLiLuLeLo]

>"can't wait to play some arcade games again today! They worked perfectly last time so I expect they'll also work perfectly today!"
>fire up retroarch
>select game
>select finalburn neo
>"SORRY NIGGER YOUR ROMS DON'T WORK ON THIS VERSION ANYMORE HARHARHAR"
>mfw

Can someone explain the appeal of retroarch to me? I've always thought of it as a scam, a mainstreamed retro streaming service for free sounded too good to be true. I've been doing rom stuff since I was 14 and I always had different folders and emulators organized properly for roms and isos, never once have I come across something like retroarch which seems to be held together with cellotape and cardboard. The closest I did was wii u usb helper which is an application used to collate and download/update wiiu 3ds games with appropriate emulator updates. That was good though, retroarch seems to be just bad.

Also I've had this experience with mame bro. Hunting down specific sound and system drivers for mame just so one game can run is a nightmare at times.

 

[LifeAlert]

FBN is pretty lenient about romsets in my time with it, it's MAME that's gay about having perfectly decrypted romsets with the precise version you're using. You also didn't mention you updated the core after "firing up retroarch".

lol, several months ago I updated all my cores and all my fucking arcade games stopped working. I got lucky and a few of them still ran but not all of them. Today I tried adding some more from multiple updated sets that match the latest FBN (1.0.0.3) and it still pulled up that message every fucking time. I deleted that fucking piece of shit and tried MAME current instead, and since it's easier to find games that are already set for the latest version, I got it working without much hassle. Except for the fact that newer games that ran fine on FBN were lagging like fuck on MAME. Unfortunately the only "solution" you will find is faggitors telling you to get FBN which I just deleted because, as I mentioned, it's a fucking piece of shit. And no, there doesn't appear to be any way to rollback core updates without already having a backup nor do they provide downloads for old versions of cores. They just fuck you in the ass with the newer updates and leave you in the dirt like every other fucking gaming anything does now. If you don't back them up and the newer core breaks something, you're fucked.

Everywhere I look online is some faggitor saying "DUHHH YOU HAVE TO DO ROCKET SCIENCE AND REBUILD THE ROM SETS WITH A TOOL YOU HAVE TO BUILD WITH VIRTUAL BASIC TRANNY PROGRAMMING SOCKS EDITION" fuck that shit, nigger. I never had to do this shit before and it's only arcade games that are like this, I never have to update console games. It's only because these faggots at MAME and FBN for some absolutely retarded reason decided updating the emulator = breaking all your roms. BULLSHIT. I will not go through unnecessary extra bullshit because some faggot tranny developer wants me to. Fuck that. I guess I'll be enjoying 80s arcade games for a while since those are the only ones that don't lag. I update my cores every few months because sometimes some emulators do get improved, but I suppose I'll have to completely avoid doing so now

Can someone explain the appeal of retroarch to me? I've always thought of it as a scam, a mainstreamed retro streaming service for free sounded too good to be true. I've been doing rom stuff since I was 14 and I always had different folders and emulators organized properly for roms and isos, never once have I come across something like retroarch which seems to be held together with cellotape and cardboard. The closest I did was wii u usb helper which is an application used to collate and download/update wiiu 3ds games with appropriate emulator updates. That was good though, retroarch seems to be just bad.

I use Retroarch because it consolidates many different emulators in one place for me and its available on several platforms. If I want to throw, say, Gunstar Heroes on my phone or TV then connect a shitty chink bluetooth gamepad to play it, I can do that. I am also a bit of stickler for integer scaling + proper aspect ratio, and Retroarch allows that feature even on emulators that don't support it in their standalone versions. Think of it like Steam but for emulators. It's not a streaming service, it functions totally offline if you want it to. It works fine when it works fine, and for consoles it usually does. Unfortunately it's not just arcade games are a fucking pain in the ass, many retro computers (ESPECIALLY Amiga and NEC PCs) don't even work no matter what you do. Doesn't matter if you have everything set up perfectly. They don't work. I only ever got Commodore 64 to work reasonably well and even then it depends on the game. Even using a real keyboard doesn't work very well for games that don't support the joystick.

Also I've had this experience with mame bro. Hunting down specific sound and system drivers for mame just so one game can run is a nightmare at times.

It truly is. I'm sure you know this now, but first thing you should do when setting up a new emulator is to make sure you've got all the system/BIOS files ready. It's not too hard to find premade BIOS packs these days. Saves you lots of headaches later when you just want to fire up some games...most of the time

 

[Bruce LaLiLuLeLo]

It truly is. I'm sure you know this now, but first thing you should do when setting up a new emulator is to make sure you've got all the system/BIOS files ready. It's not too hard to find premade BIOS packs these days. Saves you lots of headaches later when you just want to fire up some games...most of the time

For mame (Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator) it depends on the game since when arcades were a thing each developer had proprietary hardware and each system requires a sound bios and a system bios. Some of them come baked in with the software, for the other niche ones you have to hunt down the specific system files. Capcom arcade games for example just need the cps and cpsii bios files (comes baked in I think with the later versions), snk stuff needs the snk bios files, if it's a developer you don't know then you're going to have a though time finding it. Some emulators don't need bios, snes9x dolphin pcsx2, for others like duckstation you gotta have a bios handy.

I use Retroarch because it consolidates many different emulators in one place for me and its availability on several platforms. I am also a bit of stickler for integer scaling + proper aspect ratio, and Retroarch allows that feature even on emulators that don't support it in their standalone versions. Think of it like Steam but for emulators. It's not a streaming service, it functions totally offline if you want it to. It works fine when it works fine, and for consoles it usually does. It's not just arcade games are a fucking pain in the ass, many retro computers (ESPECIALLY Amiga and NEC PCs) don't even work no matter what you do. Doesn't matter if you have everything set up perfectly. They don't work.

I would advise moving on and collecting emulators instead of relying on retro arch. It might seem like work now but when you're done it will be more useful longterm. Especially given the modular customizable nature of emulators, I think you can fumble with the settings to get what you want. The computer emulators like dosbox and amiga will take more work and some knowledge to get around but that shouldn't be a hassle, at least for the console specific emulators. My personal emulator set includes nestopia/mesen, snes9x/bsneshd, dolphin, citra, duckstation, pcsx2, mgba, desmume, mame, project64 and couple others I forgot (genesis, wii u, amiga, atari 2600).

 

[Judge Dredd]

I’m currently playing through Parasite Eve 2. I enjoyed the first disc of the game. However after getting to the bunker, the game has become a slog. For someone who absolutely loves the first Parasite Eve, is it worth sticking it out for the rest of the game? I’m at the part with a bunch of Divers in the water.

Late, but I'd say yes, but I'm biased. I love PE2, and never finished PE1.

If it's a slog, it might not be worth it. Especially if you're a 100% type. At very least, it might be worth looking up the requirements for the true ending, though iirc it does make the end game more difficult.

 

[Hubelublub]

If only GoG wasn't owned by faggots:
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This seems pretty mild compared to most corporate DEI. I don't see any tranny flags, but if they want to plant a few trees for carbon emissions or whatever, be my guest.

I'm finding myself using GOG more and more given the classic games they tend to have, and what I'm interested in. Their sales are sometimes even better than Steam.

Waiting for Microsoft to stop being such faggots and release Age Of Empires on GOG, I'm not doing that "always online" bullshit.

GOG's releases of classics are fantastic and almost always run seamlessly on modern PCs. None of that DRM shite either, download them to your own PC, back up to multiple home servers, and never deal with GOG again if you're that bothered by them.

 

[Stasi]

never deal with GOG again if you're that bothered by them.

Or never deal with GOG to begin with by downloading the installers from a third party pirate site. Those cunts aren't getting a penny out of me.

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

I remember back in the day for a while my bank wouldn't directly allow payments to GOG because their money trail went through Cyprus, which at least at the time was a haven for money laundering schemes.

I think GOG has their merits but at the same time I got two questions:

A) What are CDPR and GOG up to?

B) Depending on the answer to the 1st question, when are they lined up against the wall and shot?

 

[Hubelublub]

Or never deal with GOG to begin with by downloading the installers from a third party pirate site.

A couple of euro for a game updated to run in high res on modern systems?

Pirate shit if the publishers are being homosexual, but it seems like you might be the faggot here.

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

A couple of euro for a game updated to run in high res on modern systems?

Pirate shit if the publishers are being homosexual, but it seems like you might be the faggot here.

The problem isn't GOG's technical competence, the problem is we don't know if we can trust them and if there is some ugly monkey's paw to the situation.

Like I said above, GOG's paper trail at least for a while went through avenues known for money laundering schemes.

I do not understand why an "honest" game store outlet thinks this is acceptable, especially with their parent company's rep.

 

[Hubelublub]

The problem isn't GOG's technical competence, the problem is we don't know if we can trust them and if there is some ugly monkey's paw to the situation.

Like I said above, GOG's paper trail at least for a while went through avenues known for money laundering schemes.

I do not understand why an "honest" game store outlet thinks this is acceptable, especially with their parent company's rep.

They're Eastern European, so "money laundering" isn't red flagging my gut the way it would for a Western corp. Avoiding the government is a way of life for us.

I'm not going to simp for them, if they're shite, they're shite. I'm not seeing compelling evidence, but I'm open to it.

Maybe I'm just grateful someone decided to maintain shitty old FMV games so I can run them on my laptop. Some days I need an escape from Clown World, and pretending it's still 1994 for a few hours is the only way I can stay sane.

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

Understandable. Carry on!

 

[JustSomeDong]

Maybe I'm just grateful someone decided to maintain shitty old FMV games so I can run them on my laptop. Some days I need an escape from Clown World, and pretending it's still 1994 for a few hours is the only way I can stay sane.

Ouch. That hit me right in the feels.

 

[Bruce LaLiLuLeLo]

Waiting for Microsoft to stop being such faggots and release Age Of Empires on GOG, I'm not doing that "always online" bullshit.

This is one of the biggest jokes I've ever heard. The day microsoft puts vanilla aoe 1 on gog is the day EA will put cnc on gog and blizzard relinquishes their control of warcraft. Microsoft as a game publisher is just a complete shit show, they're not held well enough to put out a good game, much less be able to do fan pleasing things.

The problem isn't GOG's technical competence, the problem is we don't know if we can trust them and if there is some ugly monkey's paw to the situation.

Like I said above, GOG's paper trail at least for a while went through avenues known for money laundering schemes.

I do not understand why an "honest" game store outlet thinks this is acceptable, especially with their parent company's rep.

I think gog lost credibility to me when they started putting out porn games under their indie banner. That's just a terrible idea. They could do good shit, but they won't, retarded CDPR fucks.