Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

[Two Dollars]

I have had zero issues with Ryujinx and its forks. It blew my mind the first time I built Ryujinx how fast it built, and that a C#/.NET project worked so seamlessly in Linux. Yuzu and its forks may have a slightly better emulation base, but the notion that Ryujinx is inferior has a weak basis at best.

Ryujinx has worse performance, worse compatibility, fewer features, and significantly more insufferable devs. That makes it worse in my eyes, unless there’s been some drastic change in the last year that I don’t know about.

Switch 2 I think, nearly 60% compatibility atm

You mean 99.9% compatibility?

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

The Xbox and PS2 could play DVD's and I think that's what ultimately tilted it for them. That and Nintendo has never been able to escape being considered a kiddy console. And for good reason.

With the Xbox you had to buy the remote/dongle to be able to play DVDs. The license cost was baked into that specific accessory.

100% wrong. The N64 is when the stigma of Nintendo making consoles only for kids started.

Playstation was hype as fuck in the 90's, you really didn't see things like this with the N64.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

It is good for there to be a fork of a Switch emulator that takes this stance because it disproves Nintendo's assertion that Switch emulation is all about piracy. But it's one of those things that is good to exist, even though its feature set makes it ungood to use.

I don't think there's a "legal" way to play Switch games on an emulator since it still requires dumping and Nintendo has always had blurbs in the back about how it's "illegal" to make backup/archival copies.

The only emulator to do that was Bleem Connectix VGS (get it right, Internet--though Bleem did do it too) and used genuine PlayStation discs in the drive, but Sony went after them the hardest (Bleem too).

 

[73_Autistic_Fuck_54]

Something about having a game downloaded without its key? I don’t remember the exact details, but it was a big controversy. They took the Riivolution approach of taking a valiant stand against piracy by adding a feature that prevents 0.0001% of piracy and pisses off everyone else in the process.

So many homebrew apps and mods I've tried to use over the years have had weird anti piracy measures implemented. The oot PC port in particular requires a specific rom dump version that can only be acquired from the fucking EU version of oot + master quest

 

[analrapist]

I don't think there's a "legal" way to play Switch games on an emulator since it still requires dumping and Nintendo has always had blurbs in the back about how it's "illegal" to make backup/archival copies.

I can't speak for other countries, but in the States, backing up computer software (Switch is a computer) is 100% legal, and specifically legal under the DMCA. https://copyrightalliance.org/educa...ht-owners-rights/backup-copyright-exceptions/

 

[Calandrino]

With the Xbox you had to buy the remote/dongle to be able to play DVDs. The license cost was baked into that specific accessory.

Playstation was hype as fuck in the 90's, you really didn't see things like this with the N64.
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[Never Scored]

The DVD contributed to extra sales no doubt, but the PS2 was also the followup to the most successful home console until that date, the hype was off charts, it was going to be a success with or without the DVD. As for the second part, the SNES and N64 weren't seen as excessively kiddy, in fact I'd say the N64 was a dudebro console. The GameCube's demise was a combination of kiddy hardware look, the loss of Rare (which provided the dudebro factor previously), no GTA 3 and the gimmick format that punished 3rd parties again.

Every time I come in this thread there is a bunch of new "Hello fellow old people" shit from people who are obviously under 30 and it blows my mind.

 

[Two Dollars]

So many homebrew apps and mods I've tried to use over the years have had weird anti piracy measures implemented. The oot PC port in particular requires a specific rom dump version that can only be acquired from the fucking EU version of oot + master quest

OoT was just an early port limitation and now supports every known rom. And if it were an antipiracy measure, you’d think they would pick anything other than the one version that can only be obtained through piracy.

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Yuzu has always worked best, I think the question is about which fork. I think right now in the running there’s Sudachi (the longest running fork), Citron (supposedly effective but sends your IP to the devs and bans your device from using it if it thinks you’re pirating something), and Eden (made by former Citron devs who were tired of its shit).

Interesting, thank you. Bizarre how so many of these Switch emulators devolve into the devs melting down.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

With the Xbox you had to buy the remote/dongle to be able to play DVDs. The license cost was baked into that specific accessory.

Playstation was hype as fuck in the 90's, you really didn't see things like this with the N64.
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If that doesn't make you want to buy a PSX, I don't know what will.

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(Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWmbUMStlGI&t=26)

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

If that doesn't make you want to buy a PSX, I don't know what will.

It wasn't even an ad, it was just the video for an obnoxiously popular song where someone in the group decided to use the playstation controller as an accessory... Weird shit. It pairs well with the other new and cool things at the time: the cylindrical MP3 player and streetwear headphones.

 

[CEO of Autism]

Every time I come in this thread there is a bunch of new "Hello fellow old people" shit from people who are obviously under 30 and it blows my mind.

It's rather rude to call me young (I'm nearing my 40s) and then not substantiate your points. Projection?

The facts: The PS1 sold 100 million. Lack of DVD wouldn't have sunk the PS2 nor it would've turned the Cube into a success. N64 had tons of exclusive FPS, sports games, wrestling, racing, edgy games, all kinds of shit that attracted the dudebro segment (whether or not a conception of "dudebros" didn't exist back then, college aged males that played video games still existed, and they went from GoldenEye to Halo) that was destroyed overnight with the GameCube; the Xbox captured that market well. Just because the N64 had also games like Mario 64 and Yoshi's Story, doesn't invalidate the rest of the catalogue.

 

[Never Scored]

N64 had tons of exclusive FPS, sports games, wrestling, racing, edgy games, all kinds of shit that attracted the dudebro segment (whether or not a conception of "dudebros" didn't exist back then, college aged males that played video games still existed, and they went from GoldenEye to Halo) that was destroyed overnight with the GameCube; the Xbox captured that market well. Just because the N64 had also games like Mario 64 and Yoshi's Story, doesn't invalidate the rest of the catalogue.

N64 was notoriously branded as a kiddy system and PS1 courted a more mature audience. That doesn't mean nobody in college dorms played a N64, or that there were no mature games in the library, but to try and paint N64 as a system known for having a bunch of exclusive sports, racing and edgy games is certainly a retarded take. You can look at the top selling games in the N64 library and the Playstation library and clearly see the general population saw N64 as a Mario, Zelda and Pokemon machine and saw Playstation as the destination for sports, racing and edgier content. Yes, there were sports, racing and some edgier games released for Nintendo 64, but outside a few exceptions like Goldeneye, nobody bought them.

With wrestling games specifically, in hindsight people talk about how much better the THQ/AKI N64 wrestling games are, but the Playstation version of WWF Warzone, Smackdown and Smackdown 2 all sold more than any wrestling games released for the N64. Smackdown 2 nearly doubled No Mercy in sales and was absolutely shit hot when it came out.