Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

[Trans Fat 41g]

I found systems like these floating around on Amazon, constantly cloning one another with varying differences.

I picked one up after sleeping on it for most of the year to see what would come out and they are growing more legs as the months pass it seems. This one is probably the highest quality of the consoles that do not have thumb slider controls.

EDIT: Sugar Crashes fucking suck worse than trying to make SNES emulation not suck.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I don't know if I mentioned it but I really like PUNess for NES emulation.

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It's the most accurate NES emulator. If you ever notice inputs dropping or it's harder to react to shit in your typical NES emulator it's because it's not 100% accurate to the original hardware. Either that or you're becoming DSP. Go try playing Mike Tyson's Punch Out on a crappy emulator and you'll be lucky if you beat Bald Bull without save states. PUNess is 90% accurate and I was able to beat Tyson legit in Punch Out because of it.

Edit: there's another one called Mesen that's just as if not more accurate than PUNess.

Mesen - High-accuracy Nintendo NES Emulator for Windows & Linux

Mesen is the most accurate NES/Famicom Emulator available and supports playing all licensed games ever made for the NES.

www.emulator-zone.com

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

It's the most accurate NES emulator. If you ever notice inputs dropping or it's harder to react to shit in your typical NES emulator it's because it's not 100% accurate to the original hardware. Either that or you're becoming DSP. Go try playing Mike Tyson's Punch Out on a crappy emulator and you'll be lucky if you beat Bald Bull without save states. PUNess is 90% accurate and I was able to beat Tyson legit in Punch Out because of it.

I think display latency might have something to do with that as well, some older games with tight timing like PaRappa the Rapper is a nightmare even if played on original hardware on a modern TV.
Maybe ten years ago John Carmack said something to the effect of how it is astonishing that it is possible to transfer a frame across the atlantic in less time than it takes a modern screen to display a frame sent over a two foot cable connected to a PC.

 

[LazarusOwenhart]

I think display latency might have something to do with that as well, some older games with tight timing like PaRappa the Rapper is a nightmare even if played on original hardware on a modern TV.
Maybe ten years ago John Carmack said something to the effect of how it is astonishing that it is possible to transfer a frame across the atlantic in less time than it takes a modern screen to display a frame sent over a two foot cable connected to a PC.

Yeah I always wonder if at some point in the near future some startup aren't going to make bank selling a new gen 60 Hz CRT monitor with a load of modern emulation gear built in.

 

[Stasi]

I found systems like these floating around on Amazon, constantly cloning one another with varying differences.

I picked one up after sleeping on it for most of the year to see what would come out and they are growing more legs as the months pass it seems. This one is probably the highest quality of the consoles that do not have thumb slider controls.

EDIT: Sugar Crashes fucking suck worse than trying to make SNES emulation not suck.

It's a bit more expensive but if you are looking for a handheld emulation machine the GPD XD is worth a look. Picked one up on eBay for cheap and its pretty good. Clam shell design so you can toss it in a bag and not worry about the screen, has dual analog sticks and takes micro SD cards for expandable memory and battery life is great.

I have retro arch running on mine and it runs everything up to the PS1 really well. I played throungh the original 3 Resident Evil games on it recently and didn't notice any issue with the emulation.

I need to tinker with it more and still have not been able to get any mame stuff to run on mine but retro consoles all work great.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Firstly, sorry for the Necro.

I've already got an idea and another suggestion but I want to see if you all might have a better idea.

I'm trying to get into GoldenEye N64 again in my retroarch setup, but I cannot find a remap from N64 to DS4 controllers that actually seems to allow me to play as fast as I do. If you were going to remap, where would you assign the buttons to?

 

[TenMilesWide]

Firstly, sorry for the Necro.

I've already got an idea and another suggestion but I want to see if you all might have a better idea.

I'm trying to get into GoldenEye N64 again in my retroarch setup, but I cannot find a remap from N64 to DS4 controllers that actually seems to allow me to play as fast as I do. If you were going to remap, where would you assign the buttons to?

c buttons on left stick, analog on right, 1.2 control style. Like a normal person.

 

[Pissmaster]

I was reading the thread on byuu and the subject of undumped games and their hoarders came up, which reminded me of something.

Did anything ever come of Marble Madness 2? I remember hearing about that game ages ago, apparently the one known copy was being held hostage by some faggot who wouldn't allow anyone to dump it. Were there ever any updates on that?

Also I really wish Galloping Ghost would release the roms for Beavis & Butthead Arcade, I know they've done their work backing it up and all, but Chicago is waaaaay too far for me to go to play it in person.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

I was reading the thread on byuu and the subject of undumped games and their hoarders came up, which reminded me of something.

Did anything ever come of Marble Madness 2? I remember hearing about that game ages ago, apparently the one known copy was being held hostage by some faggot who wouldn't allow anyone to dump it. Were there ever any updates on that?

Also I really wish Galloping Ghost would release the roms for Beavis & Butthead Arcade, I know they've done their work backing it up and all, but Chicago is waaaaay too far for me to go to play it in person.

No. Hoarders win again

 

[BrunoMattei]

I am so happy that this exists but sad that this has been a thing for a few years:

I LOVED this game. This is easily my favorite arcade exclusive game of all time. It's the true successor to SMASH TV. Fuck Total Carnage! Only issue? Never got ported. It came at that weird time with the consoles in which apparently they weren't powerful enough to run it? I have my doubts on that but supposedly that's what Ed Boon said. Most likely Midway had no interest in porting it. I don't care if I only play bots, I just have to configure this fucker and play.

Also, how the fuck do you make the mouse work for lightgun games in MAME? I cannot figure it out for shit.

 

[Book Thief]

I am so happy that this exists but sad that this has been a thing for a few years:

I LOVED this game. This is easily my favorite arcade exclusive game of all time. It's the true successor to SMASH TV. Fuck Total Carnage! Only issue? Never got ported. It came at that weird time with the consoles in which apparently they weren't powerful enough to run it? I have my doubts on that but supposedly that's what Ed Boon said. Most likely Midway had no interest in porting it. I don't care if I only play bots, I just have to configure this fucker and play.

Also, how the fuck do you make the mouse work for lightgun games in MAME? I cannot figure it out for shit.

Ahh, I love how in the year 2000, "Life like violence" equated to "Players explode into showers of red pixels when shot by a man-sized pinball launcher." It's just so quaint to think that this level of cartoonish violence was once considered controversial.

 

[Coolio55]

I am so happy that this exists but sad that this has been a thing for a few years:

I LOVED this game. This is easily my favorite arcade exclusive game of all time. It's the true successor to SMASH TV. Fuck Total Carnage! Only issue? Never got ported. It came at that weird time with the consoles in which apparently they weren't powerful enough to run it? I have my doubts on that but supposedly that's what Ed Boon said. Most likely Midway had no interest in porting it. I don't care if I only play bots, I just have to configure this fucker and play.

Also, how the fuck do you make the mouse work for lightgun games in MAME? I cannot figure it out for shit.

If you want something similar play Spawn for dreamcast. Only problem is that multiplayer is REQUIRED for some content which is a fucking pain for a loner like me.

I don't know what's wrong with your version of mame for mouseaim. I popped in the Point Blank series (and had shitloads of fun) and mouse aim worked perfectly from the get-go. Maybe that core hasn't had it added yet?

 

[BrunoMattei]

If you want something similar play Spawn for dreamcast. Only problem is that multiplayer is REQUIRED for some content which is a fucking pain for a loner like me.

I don't know what's wrong with your version of mame for mouseaim. I popped in the Point Blank series (and had shitloads of fun) and mouse aim worked perfectly from the get-go. Maybe that core hasn't had it added yet?

I tried the Spawn game but I just didn't like how it played. Probably because of the controller. And I say this as a Spawn fan. The Grid was different because it played exactly like a PC shooter. You had a stick to move your character but it had a trackball for mouse-look. Played wonderfully.

Also, I figured how to get the mouse to work in lightgun games. I just needed to calibrate the gun in the game.

Still need to figure out how to get mouse + keyboard to work for The Grid.

Played a little bit of CarnEvil. Superb lightgun title. I never encountered it in the wild when I was a kid. I have a thing for horror games from the 80's/90's before Survival Horror was really a thing or horror as a game genre really existed. Sure, there was Castlevania and Splatterhouse but it's nothing like today.

I really like this obscure one:

It's part of that difficult to define genre called Shooting Gallery. Just like the NES Punisher game or Wild Guns for SNES. Only difference in RIOT is that your character is in the middle of the screen and shoot enemies in the foreground and background. Very fun game. It even has an impaled Robocop as an Easter Egg.

Edit: ANOTHER arcade game that never got ported that's super obscure and pretty fun (there's some cheap bullshit that you'll know it when you see it) called Vendetta:

The Japanese version has leather daddies as an enemy type. And you can knee guys in the nuts. It's probably in my top 5 Beat 'Em Ups.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Since the 360 I've rubbed my thumb over the Xbox-button on the controller and thought how cool it would be if it was a trackball. With Sony adding a touch pad to the DS4 it wouldn't so crazy to have a trackball.
Some of the older arcade games can't be played properly without one and it would work well enough for games like Tempest or Super Sprint. It would be far more usable in menus than a touch pad as well.

 

[Niggernerd]

I can't let go of past games because they actually have difficulty. I'm no fan of a game hand holding me because it's more like watching a interative movie rather than well playing.
Also i love the old castlevanias up to the DS metroidvanias but new consoles seem to shy away from that quite a bit and Konami is known for being shit to past titles like Capcom so i can't enjoy goodies in modern systems. I'd sooner pick up a SNES controller over a hexbox bigfoot sized controller or playstations fragile skinnies because games were more aesthetically pleasing to look at.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I love relatively short but difficult games. Something -once you git gud at- that takes a half hour to an hour to complete is perfect.

 

[Vapewizard]

I've become interested in trying out classic SNES era JRPGs recently such as Lufia and the fortress of doom. Unfortunately I'm also kind of a sperg about localization stuff so the knowledge that back in the SNES era translators often took more liberties is off-putting to me.

 

[Niggernerd]

I love relatively short but difficult games. Something -once you git gud at- that takes a half hour to an hour to complete is perfect.

Ninja Gaiden and Journey to Silius for nes in a nutshell. Hard as fuck games that need you to git gud. Shortest games but rewarding when beaten.

 

[Book Thief]

I've become interested in trying out classic SNES era JRPGs recently such as Lufia and the fortress of doom. Unfortunately I'm also kind of a sperg about localization stuff so the knowledge that back in the SNES era translators often took more liberties is off-putting to me.

I haven't looked, but you may want to check to see if there's any ROM hacks for the games you're looking for that updates the localization.

Though be warned: sometimes fan translations can be just as inaccurate and liberty-taking as the real deal. For instance, the Tales of Phantasia fan translation included a number of sexual jokes not present in the original script.

 

[The Man Perry Park]

I've become interested in trying out classic SNES era JRPGs recently such as Lufia and the fortress of doom. Unfortunately I'm also kind of a sperg about localization stuff so the knowledge that back in the SNES era translators often took more liberties is off-putting to me.

there is a patch for Lufia 2 that fixes bugs, decensors the game and retranslates the script
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4129/
there are similar patches for the other games in the series here:
https://www.romhacking.net/?page=ha...order=&dir=&title=lufia&author=&hacksearch=Go
granted i havent tried them, but other translation patches for other games have worked fine
ive been slowly playing dragon quest 1 on snes, bit of a slow chore, but nice to grind some mobs between other things