Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

Jaimas said:
Update on the Vimm's Lair debacle:

They got hit by multiple companies and the ESA in the span of a few hours, and forced to take down most of their back-catalogue. I've been doing some research into what happened, and why there's a sudden interest after about two fucking decades of not giving a shit, and as it turns out, we can once again blame Instagram and Tiktok for this shit:

1. Emulators allowed on IOS. Delta takes off like crazy.
2. Retards seeking clout make fucking dozens of videos discussing where to get ROMs and spam that shit on the aforementioned sites.
3. Every idiot can see these fucktards revealing every fucking existing ROM site they can find.
4. Vimm's gets hit by Sega, Nintendo, Lego, the ESA, and more.
5. Vimm's is like the third or fourth site these clout-chasing tards fucking murdered this way.
6. Have it once again driven home that iPhones were the worst fucking thing to ever happen to the internet.
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I'll take my top hats on this but that actually makes MATI. Tech illiterate retards such as these should be permanently banned off of the internet. Always stockpile on roms and emulators when you can, you'll never know which day will be the last. Total instacrap, shitcock and iphone user death
 
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Electromagnetic Radiation said:
I'll take my top hats on this but that actually makes MATI. Tech illiterate retards such as these should be permanently banned off of the internet. Always stockpile on roms and emulators when you can, you'll never know which day will be the last. Total instacrap, shitcock and iphone user death
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The only problem with that is trying to store whole CD/DVD console libraries still will take up a lot of space even if you only do USA region games.
 
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SSj_Ness said:
Considering how quickly & easily these sites fold I find it hard to believe that these big companies either didn't know about them, or that they just didn't care but now suddenly do. If it's essentially a simple email to shut them down then what's the point of waiting until/if they become popular first? I'm probably missing something.
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Because people have gone particularly stupid and arrogant thanks to social media and the dopamine given by clout, virtue-signaling and Patreon money. They've been going as far as to rub under the noses of companies (especially Nintendo) by advertising piracy as an option instead of keeping it low-profile. They won't shut up about download archives, often say things like "pirating is morally justified" without an ounce of irony and sarcasm, and then have the audacity to act shocked when the shit they were bragging about eventually gets shut down.

Switch emulation was pretty bad with how much idiots would publicly broadcast they're playing the latest games at a higher resolution/performance in order to dab on Nintendo and Switch users.

There is no discretion nowadays, gatekeeping should truly make a comeback because these idiots will do far more damage to the emulation scene than Nintendo itself (or any other company) ever will.

Judge Dredd said:
What are the hardest games to run on each system, emulation wise?
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PS2 in general was a hit-or-miss for a long time until quite recently. I still remember that even back in 2020~2021, many games had compatibility issues to the point of being unplayable, such as the invisible 3D models in Drakenguard 1 (NTSC-J) or Fuuraiki 2 hanging immediately at the start of the game. Both titles work correctly now. Mind you I emulate the PS2 at its native resolution to avoid random issues and graphic errors.

I also remember Disaster Report 3 (Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 3) had its character selection screen freezing on PPSSPP but that was also fixed in this current decade.
 
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Electromagnetic Radiation said:
Always stockpile on roms and emulators when you can, you'll never know which day will be the last.
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Good idea, though archive.org actually has an established ruling where they're able to host roms without issue. (Of course, that could just go away someday)

Lone Wandering Courier said:
The only problem with that is trying to store whole CD/DVD console libraries still will take up a lot of space even if you only do USA region games.
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I think PS1 is about a terabyte and Gamecube USA is in the 400gb range. Still a hell of a lot, but doable. Plus you can delete revisions and the dozens of yearly sports games if you wanna save space. Good luck with PS2 though, lmao. And I don't even wanna think about PS3.
 
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Jaimas said:
The fucking mainstream gaming media is just as fucking culpable for this shit.

Remember when Kotaku advocated Pirating Metroid Dread mere days after its release?

No matter how much you think you hate them, you do not hate them enough.
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No need to seethe, you just have to account for all the retarded attention whores who'll throw the whole emulation & piracy scenes under the bus for a few hours worth of clout. All the more reason to archive everything, including any games you may want to play.

Hard drives aren't expensive, people! Drop a hundred bucks on one and fill it with all you can!
 
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Pissmaster said:
Good idea, though archive.org actually has an established ruling where they're able to host roms without issue. (Of course, that could just go away someday)
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That’s my go-to for roms as well, but what ruling are you referring to?
HiveDull said:
I'm very MATI. I just got my Steam Deck and managed to get Xenosaga working a couple days ago.
This only shows me that I should have been stockpiling while I was waiting for the thing to get delivered.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but it sucks that these TikTok faggots killed something else that I love.
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See above, archive.org is the good shit. Vimm was one of the better sites, but there are still plenty of others. Absolute worst case, we can all go back to hunting down torrents on 4chan and grabbing Google Drive links as redditors make them available.
 
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Pissmaster said:
I think PS1 is about a terabyte and Gamecube USA is in the 400gb range. Still a hell of a lot, but doable. Plus you can delete revisions and the dozens of yearly sports games if you wanna save space. Good luck with PS2 though, lmao. And I don't even wanna think about PS3
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To be honest, is there even any point trying to get full libraries other than completionist autism? Most of the library is going to be annual sports titles, movie tie in cash grabs and bottom of the barrel shovelware.

My PS2 folder is about 300gb and around 160 games, I've got the big popular titles and a bunch of cult/hidden gems I've heard about over the years and downloaded. To be honest, I'm probably never going to play most of them. I think it's better to just make a list of games you like or would like to play and hunt down the ISOs for those.

All that said I do have complete sets for the 16 bit and older consoles but thats because all of them were on a single torrent, the file size is small and was easier than getting individual titles for the older stuff.
 
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Stasi said:
To be honest, is there even any point trying to get full libraries other than completionist autism? Most of the library is going to be annual sports titles, movie tie in cash grabs and bottom of the barrel shovelware.
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Someone else said earlier in the thread, things like the entire gameboy collection is just a few hundred mbs. And older consoles like Atari 2600 are even smaller than that.

The big problem is you don't know what you want yet. No one heard of or cared about Kings Field or Shadow Tower until Dark Souls went mainstream. I didn't care for the bulk of 6/10 PS2 racing games, until recent years where there's been basically no decent arcade racers so now suddenly games like Split Second are looking appealing. I dismissed Captain America as another Batman Arkham clone, but now I'm starved for Batman Arkham-likes.

There's also stuff that I didn't know existed. Just recently I learned that there's a Shantae game on GBA. Supposedly it was only recently completed. Guardian Legend is another game often missing from collections despite being a hidden gem. Then there's the PS2 ports of Need for Speed Underground, Burnout Revenge, and Quantum of Solice, that are superiour to their 360 counterparts.
 
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Judge Dredd said:
I didn't care for the bulk of 6/10 PS2 racing games, until recent years where there's been basically no decent arcade racers so now suddenly games like Split Second are looking appealing.
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You just reminded me of MASHED, I've been wanting to check it out literally since it came out. Don't have it in my PS2 folder, going to have to go and hunt down the ISO.

If you like racing games check out Rally Fusion on PS2, cool rally game that isn't Colin McRae. Its the definition of one of those 6/10 or 7/10 PS2 games that unless you somehow found it in a bargain bin back in the day you never would have heard about it.
 
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BananaSplit² said:
There is no discretion nowadays, gatekeeping should truly make a comeback because these idiots will do far more damage to the emulation scene than Nintendo itself (or any other company) ever will.
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It will all end up on telegram like all the other piracy things are now.
Pissmaster said:
Hard drives aren't expensive, people! Drop a hundred bucks on one and fill it with all you can!
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Why would you need to archive hundreds of games? Even if Nintendo takes down a site tomorrow reddit will have links to a new rom site. There will always be rom sites and when one closes two more open. You don't need to stop pile every game yourself. Download the games that matter to you and games you want to try so when your internet is down you have something to play.
 
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Shiverpeaks said:
Why would you need to archive hundreds of games? Even if Nintendo takes down a site tomorrow reddit will have links to a new rom site. There will always be rom sites and when one closes two more open. You don't need to stop pile every game yourself. Download the games that matter to you and games you want to try so when your internet is down you have something to play.
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I have a 47TB NAS.

At some point the space concern just doesn't matter? If I think it'd be nice to have I just go for it.
 
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Stasi said:
To be honest, is there even any point trying to get full libraries other than completionist autism?
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Fuck no, though the best reason is because there's always another hidden gem to discover that you've overlooked a billion times. And that's part of the problem of not having a complete worldwide set, because discovering something nice like Kururin Squash is more valuable than NBA 2k5.

Shiverpeaks said:
Why would you need to archive hundreds of games? Even if Nintendo takes down a site tomorrow reddit will have links to a new rom site. There will always be rom sites and when one closes two more open. You don't need to stop pile every game yourself. Download the games that matter to you and games you want to try so when your internet is down you have something to play.
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It's a small investment to guarantee instant offline access to all the games, shows, films, songs, and whatever else you'd enjoy.

Baraka Obama said:
I have a 47TB NAS.
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I want one.
 
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