Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

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Pissmaster said:
Then again if you're playing on real hardware, you're stupid not to use a flashcart with save states. Swapping cartridges was temperamental even when NES was current.


You gotta remember that GBA was only current for a bit over three years. Some of its more sought after games dropped after the DS did. DS was November 2004, Mother 3 was April 2006, and its translation was October 2008.

NES ran from '83 (JP) / '85 (NA), was current until '90/'91, and got new releases until the very end of '94. So it was current for double the time GBA had. GBA amassed one hell of a catalog for such a short-lived system.


Oh my God, the literal farts every other measure
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Switching carts on an NES wasn't sketchy unless you were a fucking mongoloid who didn't take care of his things.

Retarded Weeb said:
I guess I'm incredibly autistic then, because saying that N64 emulation "run perfectly" sounds pretty optimistic to me. Yeah, you can probably play anything you want from start to finish, but it's still has so much awkward shit you can randomly run into like glitched graphics and stuff not working right unless you use a specific plug-in. And PS2 still have a chance of graphical or audio glitches if you're playing more niche games. And OG Xbox emulation still needs work, in fact it might still be worse than PS3 emulation.
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Perfect N64 emulation is pointless anyway, since all N64 games were shit to begin with.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
Re: GBA's audio quality. I think the system sounds fine when you're listening to music that was made for the system.
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I thought Dragon Ball GT: Transformation had some really badass music, I didn't particularly care for the game itself, however.
 
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Weird Sardine said:
I thought Dragon Ball GT had some really badass music, I didn't particularly care for the game itself, however.
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Reminds me, is Dragon Ball Z: Legacy of Goku II worth looking into? It intrigued me due to the Unabomber NPC.
 
Samuel Fuller said:
Also, Xbox “backward compatibility” is a fucking joke. It isn’t real BC, selected games were recompiled for newer systems, and the list is pretty shitty and a lot of the games don’t work perfectly, or in some cases properly.
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No, it's quite the opposite. Since all apps run in a Hyper-V VM anyway, they just treat 360 and OG Xbox as a different type of Hyper-V, emulating the PPC cores including the underlying kernel and dash WoW style, but adding per-title patches where necessary. You can use your OG discs if you have a disc drive equipped Xbox, but it'll download the specific Hyper-V machine for that title
 
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gayguywithaids said:
It's all fake news and nobody folded, the code repository is private. When an update is pushed you wont know who did or didn't work on it.
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Even if they're still working behind the scenes on the mod Reddit trannies really saw literally everything they ever wanted in a Tony Hawk game for free and they said "no! Shut it down! The developers are too edgy!"

I fucking hate Reddit trannies so much, it's unreal, they deserve nothing.
 
gayguywithaids said:
Honestly, I lost a bit of respect for him when I saw how much of a face he was putting on for the projects he worked on, not being himself and pandering to people I knew he disliked for the niche fame. However now I see what happens the ONE time he breaks and shows himself LOL.
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you can blame the fat mexican for forcing his hand. afaik (not confirming) drake9x apparently has some blackmail in regards to zed
 

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Dan of Steel said:
I personally don’t have an issue with how the GBA sounds. The point I was getting at was when I was in middle school when it came out and people had it, I remember people complaining about the sound. Also it needing batteries before the SP revision. Don’t get me wrong, the GBA is a great system.
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i was going back and looking at some games i got in 2001 and they all sounded like game boy color games. I'm almost certain that the first wave of games for the GBA was a developer rush and many of them did not have time to figure out how the sound chip on the GBA worked with any level of skill.

this game sounds like an NES game:
this game sounds like a sega 32x game:
 
Jason_Cruiser said:
The gba has some great games, like Aria of Sorrow. But the quantity is quite low compared to the NES? For every good GBA game I can think of two or three good Nes games. Handheld systems are really let down by the fact that most of the devs, feel like the b-team, being relegated to making portable games, because the company doesn't want to use their best talent on handhelds.
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I had an NES when games were still actively coming out and so I have tons of nostalgia for NES, but I can think of maybe 30 NES games tops I would want to actually play through today.
big pauper said:
i was going back and looking at some games i got in 2001 and they all sounded like game boy color games. I'm almost certain that the first wave of games for the GBA was a developer rush and many of them did not have time to figure out how the sound chip on the GBA worked with any level of skill.
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I'm not sure what games you were playing. My first two were Fire Pro Wrestling and Super Mario Advance, and they don't sound like Gameboy Color games.

When I think of other popular GBA games from 2001, Wario Land 4, Advance Wars, Tony Hawk 2, Rayman Advance, Super Circuit, Battle Network, all of them are far above and beyond what GBC could do.

Was your first GBA game Namco Museum?

GBA didn't sound as good as SNES granted, but I think people "complaining about the sound" were generally complaining about this shitty, tinny, mono speaker.
 
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Pissmaster said:
Oh my God, the literal farts every other measure
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:story: holy fuck, I can't unhear it now.

"OK boys, let's make some great music, and a 1, 2, 3, 4!"



"Oh shit, I'm sorry, my bad! OK let's try that again!"



"Oh fuck, not again! I promise it won't happen again!"



"Jesus Christ, I'm so sorry, idk what's wrong with me! Must have been that bean burrito I had for lunch!"

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Atlas Sneezed said:
No, it's quite the opposite. Since all apps run in a Hyper-V VM anyway, they just treat 360 and OG Xbox as a different type of Hyper-V, emulating the PPC cores including the underlying kernel and dash WoW style, but adding per-title patches where necessary. You can use your OG discs if you have a disc drive equipped Xbox, but it'll download the specific Hyper-V machine for that title
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If it was just specific VMs per game, why do the downloads equal the original size for the full game?

You are downloading a recomp. There was even an MS video explaining it all when they launched it for the Bone.

The discs are just used as license dongles, same as One and Series games, you’ll never hear the drive spin up once the game launches.
 
Never Scored said:
I had an NES when games were still actively coming out and so I have tons of nostalgia for NES, but I can think of maybe 30 NES games tops I would want to actually play through today.
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i had an NES emulator on my DS as a kid and i really only remember Super Mario Bros 3 and puzzle games having any sort of modern appeal. there's a lot of games that are fun but they've just aged and while they are still fun they are just old. river city ransom is the big one i can think of. that game would have been mind blowing if i played it in 1984 but like dawg i played it over summer at my grandparents house on my DS in like 2006 i truly dont know if it would hold my attention today
 
big pauper said:
i had an NES emulator on my DS as a kid and i really only remember Super Mario Bros 3 and puzzle games having any sort of modern appeal. there's a lot of games that are fun but they've just aged and while they are still fun they are just old. river city ransom is the big one i can think of. that game would have been mind blowing if i played it in 1984 but like dawg i played it over summer at my grandparents house on my DS in like 2006 i truly dont know if it would hold my attention today
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A lot of Nintendo's later titles like Mario 3, Kirby's Adventure and Star Tropics are great. Mario 2 is a fun game to revisit.

The black box games have all aged terribly outside Super Mario Bros. If you're playing them in 2026, you're playing them for the wave of nostalgia you get from the title screen and music that dissipates ten minutes in. Even with Super Mario Bros. I can blow through all 32-levels in an hour or so at this point, and there's little point to revisiting it for more than an hour or so every few years.

A lot of third party games that I really liked in the early 90s like Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior have aged terribly and have better ports on other consoles. There are some OK arcade ports, but why would you play them on NES when you could play them for SNES or Genesis or even emulate the actual arcade game?

Mega Man 2-6 is great, Castlevania 1 & 3 are great, Turtles 2 & 3 are great, Crystalis is great, Faxanadu is great, GI Joe is great, a handful of Disney games made by Capcom are great. How many of those are just games I'm nostalgic for and how many are actually worth playing today as someone who didn't play them in the late 80s/early 90s? No idea!

I'm sure there are some I'm missing, but I'm struggling to think of more.

Gun to my head, I might only be able to think of 30 worth playing for GBA too, but as someone said, GBA was really only the main handheld for a couple years.
 
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Wasn't sure where to post this, probably more suited for the Open Source thread since its some schizo lashing out, but I find the discussion concerning emulation more interesting than the drama/whatever license violations (since they somehow managed to get the 86Box dev involved in the argument): https://github.com/kjliew/qemu-3dfx/issues/171

Anyone know who this guy is btw or even heard of this project at all. I'm having a hard time believing so many people are donating 90 (!!!) dollars for a slightly faster build of qemu
 
big pauper said:
i had an NES emulator on my DS as a kid and i really only remember Super Mario Bros 3 and puzzle games having any sort of modern appeal. there's a lot of games that are fun but they've just aged and while they are still fun they are just old. river city ransom is the big one i can think of. that game would have been mind blowing if i played it in 1984 but like dawg i played it over summer at my grandparents house on my DS in like 2006 i truly dont know if it would hold my attention today
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It's really easy to try and play a random game and see the level of slop some NES games were and apply that to everything. There was a lot of junk just pumped out to fill shelves, and a lot of the early games were "arcadey" in an unpleasant way.

But the library is huge. There's a LOT to like in there. My list has >200 FC/NES games and just under 100 GBA games that I'd be interested in playing.

Never Scored said:
A lot of third party games that I really liked in the early 90s like Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior have aged terribly and have better ports on other consoles.
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You should really reconsider this. The Dragon Warrior games are arguably best on NES, even factoring in the nice SFC remakes of the first 3. They really nerfed the difficulty, and the grind in DW1 really makes the game, without it it's really short and unsatisfying. Dragon Warrior 2 on NES feels so much more epic and each new area can just feel so foreign with how tough some of the monsters are -- here grinding isn't really needed until the endgame but each fight feeling more risky helps a lot. I could keep going but they aren't really "aged" it's more that they're from a different era. The remakes of Final Fantasy 1-3 have similar caveats to the experience, it's not really the same anymore.
 
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