Vapewizard
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I was going to say it could be a joke gift type of thing like with bad rats, though then again bad rats is much cheaper.
Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster
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Absolutely not, because they're all the DOS versions of the games, which are terrible compared to the NES versions. I ended up with them because they were a part of a Fanatical 50 games for $1 bundle.
You'd think they could have just put the NES roms in some open source emulator, but, I guess they didn't really think it through.
As for who would buy it despite knowing better? Steam hoarders, man. Spend some time bouncing around Steam communities and you'll find people with thousands upon thousands of games. I found one guy with over 11,000 once. There are also plenty of idiots out there who obsess over going legit with their games, acting as if playing a ROM is stealing food directly out of the developer's mouth... despite these games being 30 years old now, and the original developers likely never had royalties in their contracts, let alone for so far in the future.
MysticMisty
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That in itself is an achievement seeing as how they were notorious for being shit on the NES.
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They're not all that bad, Spiritual Warfare is a competent Zelda clone and Exodus & Joshua are puzzle games based on Crystal Mines. I'd say their bad reputation came from Bible Adventures, a game that's firmly in the bottom 20% of the NES library.
Though I can't remember if the AVGN ever mentioned the nadir of NES Wisdom Tree, Bible Buffet, a board game where you answered bible questions, except the question text was only in the booklet. The game just told you what question number to turn to, and let you select A/B/C. So if you lose the booklet, the game's unplayable. And it's one of those really valuable NES games, too, somehow
Vapewizard
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Too bad it ended on an eternal cliffhanger. Oh well. Now that I have ScummVm installed I will definitely end up playing other games with that engine too.
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There's some merit to Piko, they acquire old unreleased/unfinished games from the 16bit era, fixes them up, then sells them. I sperged about that in the video game chat thread a couple of months ago, I don't know what kind of work they put into it but I really like that they are doing it.
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Hold up, Bible Adventures isn't really that bad.
For one thing the cart is a really cool blue color and also the Noah's Ark game on the cart is actually really good. It's a platformer where you have to go around collecting two types of each animal and there's quite a variety of animals to collect. Really it's the best game on the cart. The sprite work for that game also isn't half bad, and the game has an actual ending. The other two games on the cart I never really cared for.
Other than that yeah Spiritual Warfare is an interesting Zelda clone, you need passwords as a form of saving though that's the only drawback.
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I was just watching a video on the PolyMega on MVGs channel and he commented on the interlacing being quite good. Fake interlacing/scanlines always bugs me because that's not how it looked, adding black lines to the screen like that makes it darker and washed out. It looks bad.
So why not change the white point? I took a couple of screengrabs from the video and did just that(nudged the grey and black point a little bit as well).
IMO that's closer to how I remember games looking, they weren't all dark and grimy, but I don't think I've seen any emulators that does this, they just add black lines that darkens the image.
Looking at the levels of the untouched Sagat image suggests that it is a very dark image, it's not, it is colorful and bright.
With 5 seconds of adjustments the brightness stretches evenly from black to white(the spike is the black bars on the side).
The other screenshot of Ryu and Gen takes place in a shadowy alley with some lights but overall it is a darker image and the levels will look different on that one.
Compared to the the original and there's nothing on the brighter side.
Are there any emulators that does something like this?
So why not change the white point? I took a couple of screengrabs from the video and did just that(nudged the grey and black point a little bit as well).
IMO that's closer to how I remember games looking, they weren't all dark and grimy, but I don't think I've seen any emulators that does this, they just add black lines that darkens the image.
Looking at the levels of the untouched Sagat image suggests that it is a very dark image, it's not, it is colorful and bright.
With 5 seconds of adjustments the brightness stretches evenly from black to white(the spike is the black bars on the side).
The other screenshot of Ryu and Gen takes place in a shadowy alley with some lights but overall it is a darker image and the levels will look different on that one.
Compared to the the original and there's nothing on the brighter side.
Are there any emulators that does something like this?
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I re-played Abadox on the NES. I think it's an underrated SHMUP on the system. Beat it without save states but I have to use Turbo or my thumb will hurt like a motherfucker.
I love challenging games that can be completed in 30 minutes to an hour if you're good.
I love challenging games that can be completed in 30 minutes to an hour if you're good.
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Kega Fusion does this. You actually get the choice between scanlines at increments of 25%, though at any setting above 25% it just looks like the crap you've pointed out.
Another thing Kega lets you do is import interpolation and other rendering filters to mimic the looks of old composite video output. This is actually pretty important for some games, since a lot of artists relied upon dithering to simulate extra colors on a system that was pretty strapped for color.
Here's a couple of screengrabs from the Genesis version of Virtua Racing to demonstrate this.
Notice the bridge goes from looking like a yellow-and-red mess of pixels to the orange that the artists intended, as well as the shadow beneath the car is now transparent. The clouds also look a lot smoother now that the dithering blends together to make a more-colorful gradient.
Point is, if you've been playing games from this era of console gaming with square pixels, you've been looking at them wrong.
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So here's a picture I found in an ancient random pics folder, saved September 2005. No clue who's this is, there's no context, but it gave me the feels:
so then I ran it through imgops.com, and only Google could actually place it. Turns out, the guy still has his picture gallery from 2005 up on his old-ass web 1.0 site: http://yome.netsan.fr/forum/mess.asp?page=2&num=2218
so then I ran it through imgops.com, and only Google could actually place it. Turns out, the guy still has his picture gallery from 2005 up on his old-ass web 1.0 site: http://yome.netsan.fr/forum/mess.asp?page=2&num=2218
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I have good amount of the Color Dreams and Wisdom Tree games back when I could afford to get NES games before they ballooned. My personal favorites are Crystal Warfare, Baby Boomer, Secret Storm, and Spiritual Warfare in how crazy it gets at the end going to a prison that leads to hell. I also manage to get Spiritual Warfare and Exodus boxed on the Genesis somehow.
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Neat, a Vectrex, that's a cool system, don't see the box anywhere though. Like a lot of old systems and games having the box really drives up the price.
You can tell people about the screen and they think they get it, but unless you see it you don't get it.
Wonderful Id
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Finally beat Policenauts tonight on the Saturn. I've been wanting to do it since I learned the game even existed, so that's one finally checked off. Hell of a great game. Kind of want to go back and replay Snatcher now.
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I got the ISO on my computer and been meaning to burn on a disc to play. I am impress how people are able to translate games on the Saturn considering how much of a programming headache it was in addition to the translations themselves.
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Never underestimate dedicated autism.
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New roms added to Nintendo Switch Online today, bringing you all the joy and fun of digging through a clearance bin. This time around, we've got Operation Logic Bomb, Wild Guns, Panel de Pon, and Rygar. And here's the announcement video:
12k likes to 7.3k dislikes at the moment. The comments are thankfully mostly people going "what the fuck Nintendo where is Earthbound/Donkey Kong Country/literally anything on N64 or Gamecube, why are we getting fucking Rygar?".
Panel de Pon is especially a weird one, considering it's the Japanese version of Tetris Attack. Tetris Attack was the first game in what would go on to be Nintendo's Puzzle League series, and featured Yoshi's Island characters as mascots, making up a nice theme for the game. The Japanese version was released with its own original characters, a bunch of fairies that never showed up anywhere else of note. So I figure the fairy theme was considered unpalatable for Americans back in the 90's, and thus came the Yoshi theme.
But afterwards, you never heard the game referred to as "Tetris Attack" in any newer releases, since they just named it that as a tie-in with the Tetris brand. But I guess Nintendo didn't wanna relicense the Tetris name, so they just skirted it and released Panel de Pon? That's... dumb. Especially since the Yoshi-themed one did get a Japanese release:
Or they could have just hacked out the "Tetris" name and just renamed it to "Yoshi's Puzzle League". Instead, we got the original Japanese version, complete with untranslated menus. Great, thanks Nintendo.
They've already had an awkward enough relationship with their own Puzzle League series, with each game having an identity crisis of sorts. Firstly was Tetris Attack, a game where they had no confidence in the graphics or even the title. Then came Pokemon Puzzle League on N64, a game that was literally the same but tied into the Pokemon franchise. Then Dr. Mario & Puzzle League on GBA, a two-pack released at a time when the GBA was on its last legs, with... no theme whatsoever. Seriously, here's a screenshot:
It's really that bare bones.
Afterwards came Planet Puzzle League, a pretty good version for the DS that used the stylus and went along with that brief fad Lumines started where classic & puzzle games went all techno-ey (see also: Space Invaders Extreme; Pac-Man Championship Edition; Meteos; Every Extend Extra). And then... that's it, I guess? There was a stripped-down version of the DS game as a download on the DSi & 3DS, and Wikipedia says there was a bonus game of it in Animal Crossing New Leaf. I guess Nintendo just never knew what to do with the franchise, despite how they could have just slapped a bunch of Nintendo characters all over it over and over and over and over like they do with everything, along the lines of Tetris DS (or, you know, Tetris Attack).
But it's been 13 years since the last time they put any measurable level of ass into a version of Puzzle League, and now we can play an old-ass Japanese SNES version of it where they couldn't even be bothered to translate the already-in-English-but-written-in-Katakana menus.
12k likes to 7.3k dislikes at the moment. The comments are thankfully mostly people going "what the fuck Nintendo where is Earthbound/Donkey Kong Country/literally anything on N64 or Gamecube, why are we getting fucking Rygar?".
Panel de Pon is especially a weird one, considering it's the Japanese version of Tetris Attack. Tetris Attack was the first game in what would go on to be Nintendo's Puzzle League series, and featured Yoshi's Island characters as mascots, making up a nice theme for the game. The Japanese version was released with its own original characters, a bunch of fairies that never showed up anywhere else of note. So I figure the fairy theme was considered unpalatable for Americans back in the 90's, and thus came the Yoshi theme.
But afterwards, you never heard the game referred to as "Tetris Attack" in any newer releases, since they just named it that as a tie-in with the Tetris brand. But I guess Nintendo didn't wanna relicense the Tetris name, so they just skirted it and released Panel de Pon? That's... dumb. Especially since the Yoshi-themed one did get a Japanese release:
Or they could have just hacked out the "Tetris" name and just renamed it to "Yoshi's Puzzle League". Instead, we got the original Japanese version, complete with untranslated menus. Great, thanks Nintendo.
They've already had an awkward enough relationship with their own Puzzle League series, with each game having an identity crisis of sorts. Firstly was Tetris Attack, a game where they had no confidence in the graphics or even the title. Then came Pokemon Puzzle League on N64, a game that was literally the same but tied into the Pokemon franchise. Then Dr. Mario & Puzzle League on GBA, a two-pack released at a time when the GBA was on its last legs, with... no theme whatsoever. Seriously, here's a screenshot:
It's really that bare bones.
Afterwards came Planet Puzzle League, a pretty good version for the DS that used the stylus and went along with that brief fad Lumines started where classic & puzzle games went all techno-ey (see also: Space Invaders Extreme; Pac-Man Championship Edition; Meteos; Every Extend Extra). And then... that's it, I guess? There was a stripped-down version of the DS game as a download on the DSi & 3DS, and Wikipedia says there was a bonus game of it in Animal Crossing New Leaf. I guess Nintendo just never knew what to do with the franchise, despite how they could have just slapped a bunch of Nintendo characters all over it over and over and over and over like they do with everything, along the lines of Tetris DS (or, you know, Tetris Attack).
But it's been 13 years since the last time they put any measurable level of ass into a version of Puzzle League, and now we can play an old-ass Japanese SNES version of it where they couldn't even be bothered to translate the already-in-English-but-written-in-Katakana menus.
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Wild Guns is great. Not much reason to grab it over the Remaster called Wild Guns Reloaded though. I had no idea this came to Steam.
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Oh, followup. BuildGDX now supports Duke 3D.
Grab the JRE version if you don't want to install Java.
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It's hard as fuck because they added a no dying achievement tied to unlockables for Reloaded. And you have to win the game without dying for every character.