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Is Scratchin Melodii the next big internet classic?

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Here's one that just came out yesterday: a full remake of Bit.Trip Runner.
Main new features are a full level editor and being able to unlock levels with music from all the other games. It's fun so far from what I've played,
 
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>another player posting data scores publicly
>jp/kr: "uhhh, was this done on a cracked cab?"
>west: "REEEEEEEEEEE WHO CARES IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS"

I mean, I agree "official" accessibility is an issue for most people, but they posted this publicly for the entire world (including konmai) to see, what the fuck did you expect would happen? Swear to god RGC people have the most terrible responses when someone brings up piracy which makes them look more like the asshole than their accusers.
 
Non-breath oblige said:
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>another player posting data scores publicly
>jp/kr: "uhhh, was this done on a cracked cab?"
>west: "REEEEEEEEEEE WHO CARES IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS"

I mean, I agree "official" accessibility is an issue for most people, but they posted this publicly for the entire world (including konmai) to see, what the fuck did you expect would happen? Swear to god RGC people have the most terrible responses when someone brings up piracy which makes them look more like the asshole than their accusers.
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The fact that people care that much about scores on this retard game perplexes me. It's one thing to feel accomplished when beating a difficult song, but being such a fart huffer by pulling out your phone and taking a picture of the screen just so redittors gawk at your score is so petty.
 
斯尼 德之王 said:
but being such a fart huffer by pulling out your phone and taking a picture of the screen just so redittors gawk at your score is so petty.
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Even before reddit, this was a thing. You had people on the multiple DDR/SM forums post screenshots and brag about how their initials were all over an arcade cabinet's high score. This was more common on ITG machines. You would have people that live in completely different locations (towns, counties, states, etc...) coming to various arcades and "claiming" it as theirs... as if they were a bunch of male cats pissing all over their new territory.

Think the arcades of the 80's where the high score was the only thing that mattered except with MORE fart huffing, egotism, and eliteism.
 
斯尼 德之王 said:
The fact that people care that much about scores on this retard game perplexes me. It's one thing to feel accomplished when beating a difficult song, but being such a fart huffer by pulling out your phone and taking a picture of the screen just so redittors gawk at your score is so petty.
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The redditfags are here to be nepotistic. They want people to know them.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
Even before reddit, this was a thing. You had people on the multiple DDR/SM forums post screenshots and brag about how their initials were all over an arcade cabinet's high score. This was more common on ITG machines. You would have people that live in completely different locations (towns, counties, states, etc...) coming to various arcades and "claiming" it as theirs... as if they were a bunch of male cats pissing all over their new territory.

Think the arcades of the 80's where the high score was the only thing that mattered except with MORE fart huffing, egotism, and eliteism.
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Ahahahahahahahaha, I remember that. Scorefags were the worst. Mock them for that kind of behavior and they'd just seethe at you.

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I assume you mean AudioSurf, and if so, i haven't played it yet because I'm trying to find a copy of the game that ISN'T tied to Steam but will also work with WINE
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Back when programmed world was still a thing, public score posting wasn't a thing because you'd get shunned and banned from the servers. A lot of people just kept it under the radar and in private.
But of course, speaking up against playing typical EN DDR players view this as some sort of oppression because "muh scores" is more important than Konmai ceasing international support one day because they probably see us gaijins as leeching & pirating dumbfucks. Whatever happened to keeping it on the down low.

This site post also has a pretty good writeup of what's happening and stuff I'd agree with for the most part. The accessibility issue part was an eye opener especially with arcades in rural Japan being mentioned.
 
Rabbi Bill Clinton said:
The accessibility issue part was an eye opener especially with arcades in rural Japan being mentioned.
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He's not wrong, Japan isn’t all Tokyo/Osaka/Nagoya/Fukuoka/Sapporo. I've been to some of these really rural places in Japan and I agree. I always see US players complain about the pictures of all the gold cabs/LM/Valkyrie models lined up together on social media "omg japan is soooo lucky, look at how few round1s we have" and I'm like bro that's just the cities, try actually going out into the countryside or even the suburbs. You get the same problems of shit cabs and/or long lines for one cab that's the only one for hours.

I don't get why people love seeing all those cabs placed so close together either, that shit is LOUD. Not pachinko parlor or rock concert loud, but I had to step outside the arcade every now and then just to clear my head.

Also the Puerto Rico idiot decided to post public data scores AGAIN today.

Also in an effort to be more "inclusive" the Western community decided to use racial slurs against Asians who don't agree with their views about data.

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Non-breath oblige said:
He's not wrong, Japan isn’t all Tokyo/Osaka/Nagoya/Fukuoka/Sapporo. I've been to some of these really rural places in Japan and I agree. I always see US players complain about the pictures of all the gold cabs/LM/Valkyrie models lined up together on social media "omg japan is soooo lucky, look at how few round1s we have" and I'm like bro that's just the cities, try actually going out into the countryside or even the suburbs. You get the same problems of shit cabs and/or long lines for one cab that's the only one for hours.
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I also love seeing the "But US is bigger and has less arcades than Japan" argument because it's just plain retarded.
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I love that these schizo weeb niggers always love to have a pissing contest to religiously praise Japan as the superior country. Japan doesn't even have the most powerful defense military system compared to either Russia or US.
 
Rabbi Bill Clinton said:
This site post also has a pretty good writeup of what's happening and stuff I'd agree with for the most part. The accessibility issue part was an eye opener especially with arcades in rural Japan being mentioned.
https://s01.ninja/en/playing-on-data-a-jp-perspective.html
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The DDR community is under constant pressure of losing our game​

This might be just me, but when our economy is stagnant for 30 years, when taxes are rising, and when our major industries get caught in scandals (and sometimes even the media is complicit about it), as Otakus our only hope for Japan becomes the content industry (anime, manga, games). But also at the same time we hear about content creators not being compensated very well. Piracy just worsenes the economic situation for the content creators.

That might have been an overstatement for the whole industry, but we can feel that DDR is under severe economic pressure to survive. Even though DDR is one of the hardwares chosen for BEMANI Pro League, I believe DDR has always been on the brink of service termination. We came back once from the brink of death (DDR EXTREME). We felt it when DDR cabs started to disappear from our arcades2. We also felt that we weren’t getting a new version after DDR 2013 (when they removed the version name altogether).
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From the American side of things, there was a lot of resentment with how nasty Konami treated us for years, and how the arcade experience could be pretty shitty.
  • Most cabinets were located at places that weren't primarily arcades, like movie theaters and bowling alleys, even in major cities
    • Because of this, it was common to encounter completely unmaintained pads, low volume, and hostile staff
  • DDR didn't take off in America until Extreme, so a lot of us didn't get to experience the back catalog of long-removed songs in older mixes
  • In response to being stuck on Extreme for ages, In The Groove came along, but the series was destroyed by Konami due to a ridiculous lawsuit concerning upgrades to DDR machines
  • Supernova eventually came along, but had no e-Amusement for America, and thus had no score tracking and a few songs permanently locked forever
  • New cabinets for America were produced by Betson, which were notoriously awful, with players reporting pad misses galore on brand new machines
  • DDR X cabinets were even worse than the ones designed for Supernova 1 and 2
  • America didn't even get DDR X3, nor 2013 & 2014
  • DDR A onwards is only partially translated, with many new song titles not even being in Romanji
  • DDR A onwards also has some new features and songs locked behind stuff only accessible to the Japanese, like the Paseli system, Grand Prix, the ownership of the Grand Prix soft pad, etc.
  • Wasn't it like, nearly two years between the release of A3 and A3 on regular cabinets, but only in the continental USA?
  • Speaking of America not getting stuff, we technically didn't get Extreme, but most cabinets were running pirated copies. We only got a slightly upgraded 1st mix, and a gimped 3rd mix (as DDR USA).
  • Not to mention, Konami themselves have a terrible reputation in the west anyway, with how Kojima's treatment was major news when MGS5 was new, and awful games like MGS Survive and Contra: Rogue Corps only hurt their reputation further.
  • After all of that, can you really blame Americans for giving a flying fuck about pirating DDR?
I know it's even worse in Europe. Dancing Stage Fusion came out over two years after DDR Extreme, and had only 49 songs. Europeans didn't even get imported DDR mixes like Americans because of the electrical differences.

Boy oh boy, could I not give a flying fuck about Konami dangling the well-being of DDR over our heads eternally. Just give me a nice cabinet running StepMania and I'll be happy.
 
Pissmaster said:
Just give me a nice cabinet running StepMania and I'll be happy.
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There was a thrift store I used to hang out a lot in my teens and 20's that had an arcade downstairs that had two stepmania machines. One of them was hacked into a DDR cab that had a button on the side that you could switch between the official Extreme and an Extreme-themed Stepmania that had all the mixes, and a bunch of (at the time) popular user-made stuff inluding KB (keyboard) files for whatever assinine reason. The other machine was a hands-only machine that had 4 big-ass buttons layered like a d-pad that you smaked the ever loving shit out of... always made a loud "CLACK" noise, also had the same amount of songs as the dance machine + In The Groove files. Played them both a lot until ITG2 came along and then R21 was all the rage.
 
Pissmaster said:
  • DDR A onwards is only partially translated, with many new song titles not even being in Romanji
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Eh, they pretty much have everything "translated" besides the song titles and some event folders (quality is a bit questionable, ex: it does a terrible job explaining 2 credits are needed for versus). Translating/Romaji-ing song titles is always going to be a shitshow because Japanese can have multiple readings (plus romaji fucking sucks imo, especially for long song titles), and you'd also have to deal with Korean translations for the Koreans too.

Pissmaster said:
  • Wasn't it like, nearly two years between the release of A3 and A3 on regular cabinets, but only in the continental USA?
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The story is that Round1 was locked with a contract with Dave & Busters to run the upfront/non-revenue share version of the game. Everyone else in the world uses the revenue share one. One difference is that the non-revenue share cabs don't go down for maintenance during US business hours and I guess D&B has some sort of "policy" where games should be "up" as much as possible. The other is that major upgrades can't be done OTA, it has to be via USB dongles. D&B refused to pay for the A3 upgrade or switch to revenue share, probably because DDR hardly brings in any profit + aforementioned policies + revenue share = more loss of profits, so R1 couldn't do a thing until they got out of the contract and switched to revenue share.

Pissmaster said:
  • Most cabinets were located at places that weren't primarily arcades, like movie theaters and bowling alleys, even in major cities
    • Because of this, it was common to encounter completely unmaintained pads, low volume, and hostile staff
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I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned that prior to like 2020 or so, Japan had terrible smoking regulations for indoor places so almost all arcades smelled awful. Yeah America had its share of shitty locations but imagine in Japan dealing with shitty locations and getting second hand smoke especially for a game like DDR which requires a lot of breathing.

Pissmaster said:
Just give me a nice cabinet running StepMania and I'll be happy.
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I'd like that too, but it's a lot harder for that nowadays besides the few small indie arcades still left because the corpo chains still standing want to have corpo-made games.
 
Non-breath oblige said:
Eh, they pretty much have everything "translated" besides the song titles and some event folders (quality is a bit questionable, ex: it does a terrible job explaining 2 credits are needed for versus). Translating/Romaji-ing song titles is always going to be a shitshow because Japanese can have multiple readings (plus romaji fucking sucks imo, especially for long song titles),
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Fair enough, though it was nice how Supernova translated everything, even banners. 三毛猫ロック wasn't just Mikeneko Rock, it was Calico Cat Rock.
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Non-breath oblige said:
imagine in Japan dealing with shitty locations and getting second hand smoke especially for a game like DDR which requires a lot of breathing.
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I actually played ITG2 on a cabinet at a place where indoor smoking was still legal, so I had that experience. The machine was at least on the far end of the place where most people weren't actually smoking, so it only really bothered me if someone was watching with a lit cigarette in tow.
 
Anything that makes scorefags suffer makes me smile. All you had to do was enjoy your faggot dancing game in private, but no, you had to show the world just how big your DDR dick is.
 
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