Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Oh Long Johnson]

The easiest thing to mock is his idea that no borders will make us more intellectual.

"ME THINK NO BORDERS OR LAW MAKE ME BRAIN YUGEREST. UNGA BUNGA."-World's fatest caveman.

No borders is a fantastic idea, as long as it is reciprocal.

Oh, but that would be colonialism.

 

[Cure Quanta]

Personally I think the easiest thing to make fun of is that he's fat and diabetic. No seriously, I never understood fat socialists. Clearly they're eating more than their "fair share".

Another party a guy like him never gets invited to, eh?

 

[RockVolnutt]

No borders is a fantastic idea, as long as it is reciprocal.

Oh, but that would be colonialism.

Just annex Mexico. He wants that global government anyways yet he always pussies out on explaining how this would willingly happen.

 

[BubbleButt]

I say we cut off those 12 cities from the rest of the country and see how superior and self-sustaining they are.

 

[BR55]

"The USA is nothing but a dozen cities with a bunch of useless land separating them from each other."

I feel like we need to do a South Park Scientology riff where we make a cartoon of this lunacy while flashing a title that says THIS IS WHAT BOB CHIPMAN ACTUALLY BELIEVES.

Never forget that this the same man who thinks a "Fully Manhattanized New York State" is something that he could "see happening".
Which raises the question. Would Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New England just becomes giant Suburbs for the Mega City One that would now stretch from Long Island to the the Great Lakes?
Not to mention how the rest of the fucking country would need to be dedicated to keeping such an urban nightmare afloat.
Bob's tribalistic and unthinking love for his precious cities blinds him to the fact that the "useless land separating the cites" are what allows those cities to exist and function in the first place.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

Never forget that this the same man who thinks a "Fully Manhattanized New York State" is something that he could "see happening".
Which raises the question. Would Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New England just becomes giant Suburbs for the Mega City One that would now stretch from Long Island to the the Great Lakes?
Not to mention how the rest of the fucking country would need to be dedicated to keeping such an urban nightmare afloat.
Bob's tribalistic and unthinking love for his precious cities blinds him to the fact that the "useless land separating the cites" are what allows those cities to exist and function in the first place.

Not to mention, if a driver in the Catskills neighborhood of Mega York swerved to miss a squirrel and wound up busting a tire on a Mega pothole, would the news that night be filled with stories of Mega Yorkers coming together and surviving the Catskill Crater tragedy?

And how long would it take the rest of us to nuke them?

 

[Cure Quanta]

Can't wait to see the dystopian, disease-riddled above-ground sewers that results in when you're butted up next to all the industry you're usually supposed to have a city well away from!

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

As a lover for small towns, Bob's dreams of a Mega New York are impossible, as entire towns would cease to exist and that would make a stagnant culture. There are widespread ramifications to a Mega New York, and they aren't good.

 

[Cure Quanta]

Oh God, I just realized something else. Remember when we were relating Bob's ideas to Nazism?

His idea suggests there's a demand for it the way Hitler thought there would be a demand for all that lebensraum he was winning the Third Reich. What d'you suppose happens when nobody bites from way overestimating the demand for living space the way Hitler did? The Nazis resorted to stealing children.

...I mean I know it'd never happen, but the more layers you peel off of the idea the worse it gets to think about.

 

[Cleric of Autism]

Never forget that this the same man who thinks a "Fully Manhattanized New York State" is something that he could "see happening".
Which raises the question. Would Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New England just becomes giant Suburbs for the Mega City One that would now stretch from Long Island to the the Great Lakes?
Not to mention how the rest of the fucking country would need to be dedicated to keeping such an urban nightmare afloat.
Bob's tribalistic and unthinking love for his precious cities blinds him to the fact that the "useless land separating the cites" are what allows those cities to exist and function in the first place.

As someone from one of those states the answer is, we're basically already a suburb of NYC

 

[BR55]

As someone from one of those states the answer is, we're basically already a suburb of NYC

Let me guess New Jersey or Connecticut right?

 

[BubbleButt]

Probably the Jerz. It's been New York's armpit for decades now.

 

[Mola Ram]

Probably the Jerz. It's been New York's armpit for decades now.

Five fuckin' families, and then we got this pygmy thing over in Jersey.

 

[elder god]

Remember when Bob's schtick was that he'd make fun of overly convoluted stories?

One thing I'll never understand about these things is that for all their screeching of "themes" and "emotions" is that, if the movie fucks up and has the dumbest ideas imaginable on screen, why should I care about the themes from some hack who can't even tell a story? The problem with plot holes isn't that they exist, its that they take us out of the story, and out of those emotions and themes. Doug fucking Walker understood this point better than Bob does. Oh and this whole "shallow" argument is hilarious when it comes from people who like Ellis and Olson, two people who have some of the most shallow opinions imaginable.

Speaking of today's critics, if you want to waste some time watching Mauler and 3 fur fags go on another fucking time wasting rant over this particular video that these morons are praising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPkdJP0Ut2Q

Bonus, at some point I think about 3 and a half hours in (some time during the second video they watch) they start shitting on bob

Edit: its about 3 hours 51 minutes in.

 

[SuperDeeDuper]

He seems to forget that the "useless" land is growing the food that he stuff his fat mouth with. Or how about the gas, oil and other energy sources? how is the cities suppose to power their infrastructure so he can upload shit videos?

cosmopolitan snobs never consider that some people do actual work so that they (the cosmos) can look down their noses at those people

 

[Pokemonquistador]

cosmopolitan snobs never consider that some people do actual work so that they (the cosmos) can look down their noses at those people

Well, you see, the cosmopolitans like Bob plan on importing a lot of 3rd World peasant labor and/or inventing machines to do everything. So there will be no place for the rural white farmers/working class bigots that live between the cities. So said bigots will eventually either die of despair or their women will be carried off and forced to bear the children of the Superior Brown Man.

Bob's vision, of course, doesn't take into account:

~The hideous environmental disaster that would accompany the transformation of millions of acres of farmland into cold, hard concrete.
~The problems with housing a teeming horde of peasant labor. Sure they might put up with living 10 to a bed for a few years, but eventually, they'll want to live like actual human beings.
~The problems with assimilating people from a third world culture. They pretty much have to learn how to live in an advanced society from the ground up. They'll probably want to keep their values and language, and once they reach sufficient numbers, they'll replace all of the Democrat politicians who imported them with people from their home countries (Already happening to politicians in Minnesota, who are being swapped out for the Somalis they helped bring in.)
~The radicalization of rural white people, who will join the Republican party in droves as they realize it's the only party that doesn't seek their disenfranchisement and destruction. MovieBob feels he can lord it over rural whites because he hasn't seem what happens when their livelihoods are put at stake. He keeps poking the bear with his stick, thinking it will never wake up and bite his head off, just because it hasn't thus far. If things go south for this country and rural whites are kept from making a decent living, Bob and his ilk are in for a surprise.

And folks, let me remind you, that MovieBob and his pal Nash are ALREADY celebrating U.S. coalminers losing their jobs. This in spite of the fact that coal is STILL needed to power their precious Cities AND the only place in the world (other than the US) to get it cheaply is China, where they have to violate a whole bunch of environmental and humanitarian regulations. ("Who cares if Chinese peasants develop Black Lung and the air is poisoned! At least those dang, dirty Trump voters are suffering! HAW HAW!")

tl;dr Bob is an idiot with no sense of foresight. Also, he has no idea how anything works.

 

[Maggots on a Train]

Remember when Bob's schtick was that he'd make fun of overly convoluted stories?
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Spoiler: YMS's comment

I think he kind of misses the point about people acting logically. It's not an issue for someone to act illogically. It's an issue when the illogical and out-of-character decision they make is forced in for no reason other than to enact a plot device. It's not illegitimate to prefer stories that flow in natural ways compared to ones where you can transparently see every single beat in the script. That was my biggest issue with A Quiet Place. The plot device conflict came at the expense of the characters. They weren't real people anymore. They were just props to force more conflict into the story with every action they made. I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to point out.

What's really weird is that he's coming at this from a really elitist angle. I'm not sure what he thinks of my channel (although a few commenters seem to think I fall under the category of what he's criticizing), but I'm constantly making sure to communicate that even though I'm mentioning parts of the film that bother me, those same aspects might not bother other people. I always make sure to communicate that everyone has their threshold for what they're willing to accept and that not everyone weighs the same aspects of filmmaking equally. And here this guy is saying that plot holes can't be considered problems with a film and that it's illegitimate criticism to express your thoughts on them when talking about your experience with a film. What? That's basically just gatekeeping at this point. I completely understand his perspective and find it completely legitimate to not be bothered by any logical inconsistencies in a film, but to claim that it's not legitimate whatsoever to consider them as flaws is just elitist nonsense. It's always so weird to me when people try to delegitimize other ways of thinking rather than accept and understand other points of view.

If an aspect of the film winds up making the experience less believable, how is that not a legitimate thing to mention? If a film's writing prevents the characters from being believable, how is that not a legitimate complaint? I'd be interested to see what exactly this guy considers to be a legitimate flaw, because anyone could easily use the same logic against him for that. By his logic, you could make the same arguments he's making for literally any complaint about any art whatsoever. By his logic, there is no such thing as legitimate criticism.

Anyway, excuse my little rant here. It's just always so frustrating when people try to claim that you shouldn't talk about certain aspects of your experience watching the film. Like, it's my experience. If there's something I want to mention about it, I'll mention it. I mention every aspect of filmmaking that stands out to me. Lighting, shot composition, soundtrack, acting, production design, special effects, etc. It's stupid to say that you're allowed to have whatever opinions you want on those, but that plot inconsistencies are off-limits for some reason. I make videos expressing my opinions on my experience of the film. I'm not going to start omitting aspects that stuck out to me and affected my experience just because some people decide to look down on any criticisms that don't bother them personally. Get off your high horse.

EDIT: So I continued watching the video and found where he talks about what he considers to be legitimate flaws in Justice League. As expected, his criticisms are just as (if not, more) subjective as any complaint about plot inconsistency. "Many of the central characters are totally static and poorly motivated and they don't learn anything or grow through the story.". So what you're saying is that these characters aren't acting realistic enough for you? What happened when you said that human beings are illogical and imperfect? If unrealistic character actions aren't real criticism, then why are unrealistic character motivations? They go hand-in-hand. Their actions are quite literally driven by their motivations. There are real people in the world with unrealistic motivations just the same as there are real people in the world with unrealistic character actions. By your own logic, your complaints are no less subjective than the ones you're criticizing as illegitimate. You could make the exact same arguments against either of those concepts. There are also plenty of great movies that intentionally avoid conforming to the exact same character growth formula that he's imposing as the "standard" for how a movie has to be. When your premise is that "my criticisms are legitimate, but yours aren't", you're doing nothing but harming creativity. Not every movie has to follow the standard you set for it, and it's incredibly arrogant to imply that your form of criticism is somehow objective.

Here's an idea that is essential to consider about this situation: There are writers and directors out there who put painstaking efforts into their stories to make sure everything is as concise and logical as possible. There are also writers and directors who don't put in those efforts at all. If inconsistencies in plot and character action "don't matter at all", then how can you even appreciate those efforts made by filmmakers who legitimately care? You're not just delegitimizing those who discuss their films. You're delegitimizing the filmmakers themselves. You're saying there's no difference between a lazy script littered with inconsistencies versus a thoroughly researched, laid-out, thoughtful script that made every effort they possibly could to make the story, characters, and universe as consistent and believable as possible. That's just nonsense and it's upsetting that you refuse to see any value whatsoever in filmmakers who put those extra efforts into their work.

I personally don't enjoy Cinema Sins either, because I personally consider it to be completely substanceless and unfunny. It's bottom-of-the-barrel criticism where the goal is to find as many "ding" flaws as possible, often reaching so far as to include ones despite the film very clearly adding those aspects intentionally. If your premise in this video was that going out of your way to find flaws in every single film that exists while ignoring every other aspect of filmmaking is low-effort content, I'd be agreeing with you here. However, your premise is that taking issue with any amount of inconsistencies in any film ever made is illegitimate and I can't agree with you at all on that. You're seriously delegitimizing the filmmakers out there who actually care about those things, and it sets bad precedent to tell people that their efforts shouldn't be appreciated.
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Does that mouth ever get sore from sucking Jeff Bezos' dick so much?
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Oh, now you're standing up for regular people?
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I guess it's pointless to highlight how ignorant Bob is, but the mayo ghoul wasteland full of people who don't count gave us people like Mark Twain, Elvis Presley, James Earl Jones, Muhammad Ali, George Clooney, Jim Henson, John Grisham, Hunter S. Thompson, Louis Armstrong, Truman Capote, Dan "get in the van" Schneider. The sacred entertainment industry doesn't generate all the best bits in LA and New York, it just homogenizes them there.

 

[Cleric of Autism]

I guess it's pointless to highlight how ignorant Bob is, but the mayo ghoul wasteland full of people who don't count gave us people like Mark Twain, Elvis Presley, James Earl Jones, Muhammad Ali, George Clooney, Jim Henson, John Grisham, Hunter S. Thompson, Louis Armstrong, Truman Capote, Dan "get in the van" Schneider. The sacred entertainment industry doesn't generate all the best bits in LA and New York, it just homogenizes them there.

Yeah but most of the people you listed are white men they don't count

 

[Flexo]

~The hideous environmental disaster that would accompany the transformation of millions of acres of farmland into cold, hard concrete.

I suspect that Bob et al honest believe that they're just going to let all the farmland go back to wild country "for the environment." Based upon what I've pieced together, I think their grand plan is for everybody in the city to go vegan, convert some high rises into hydroponic bays, so they can feed everybody in the city, then once all the farmers are either dead or converted to the superior way of life, the farms will be broken down and allowed to revert the land back to the wild (even though there's already a Government program to do that).

But hey, we robots are all for you humans packing yourselves into tight enclaves, it makes the targeting easier...

Bonus, at some point I think about 3 and a half hours in (some time during the second video they watch) they start shitting on bob

Edit: its about 3 hours 51 minutes in.

Thanks! I've jumped ahead to that point and it's glorious hearing them go, "Bob Chipman is insane." And they brought up the James Gunn sperging! Oh glorious day.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Well, you see, the cosmopolitans like Bob plan on importing a lot of 3rd World peasant labor and/or inventing machines to do everything. So there will be no place for the rural white farmers/working class bigots that live between the cities. So said bigots will eventually either die of despair or their women will be carried off and forced to bear the children of the Superior Brown Man.

Bob's vision, of course, doesn't take into account:

~The hideous environmental disaster that would accompany the transformation of millions of acres of farmland into cold, hard concrete.
~The problems with housing a teeming horde of peasant labor. Sure they might put up with living 10 to a bed for a few years, but eventually, they'll want to live like actual human beings.
~The problems with assimilating people from a third world culture. They pretty much have to learn how to live in an advanced society from the ground up. They'll probably want to keep their values and language, and once they reach sufficient numbers, they'll replace all of the Democrat politicians who imported them with people from their home countries (Already happening to politicians in Minnesota, who are being swapped out for the Somalis they helped bring in.)
~The radicalization of rural white people, who will join the Republican party in droves as they realize it's the only party that doesn't seek their disenfranchisement and destruction. MovieBob feels he can lord it over rural whites because he hasn't seem what happens when their livelihoods are put at stake. He keeps poking the bear with his stick, thinking it will never wake up and bite his head off, just because it hasn't thus far. If things go south for this country and rural whites are kept from making a decent living, Bob and his ilk are in for a surprise.

And folks, let me remind you, that MovieBob and his pal Nash are ALREADY celebrating U.S. coalminers losing their jobs. This in spite of the fact that coal is STILL needed to power their precious Cities AND the only place in the world (other than the US) to get it cheaply is China, where they have to violate a whole bunch of environmental and humanitarian regulations. ("Who cares if Chinese peasants develop Black Lung and the air is poisoned! At least those dang, dirty Trump voters are suffering! HAW HAW!")

tl;dr Bob is an idiot with no sense of foresight. Also, he has no idea how anything works.

One of these days, I hope both of them get shackled to a pole in coal country.