Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

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How will Bob react to seeing the Mario film?


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I think Bob really does believe that if he says stuff he for whatever reason believes in the moment forcefully enough on Twitter it becomes literally true. The only reason this doesn't happen is because someone somewhere is refusing to believe.

His tirades against religion and Believers are so funny because he has so clearly internally constructed his entire worldview of how even things like nature operate based on some basic axiomatic shit he didn't understand in Catholic Sunday School. And his answer to every piece of contradictory evidence he's come across in his 35+ years since is to simply force it to fit that model even if that requires him to simply deny things that don't fit the model don't even exist, a position more extreme and insane than but not out of character with the motivations for the most dogmatic period of the historical Church. Bob can't even read Wikipedia to inform his "JOB" about comics not just because he's a Patirck S. Tomlinson level of moron but because it would endlessly introduce cognitive dissonance with everything he's chosen to believe before about each subject. Bob has no patience for learning, it remains an endless process, so he thinks he's found the shortcut to simply "know" things in the first place and to simply believe that what he knows is always correct. It's foolproof except for that part where you can't control everyone else, a minor issue, that the SUPERIOR FUTURE will sweep away by allowing Bob to slaughter anyone who opposes him.

Like so many of these idiots he thinks the end point of deconstruction is not reconstruction in a superior form but a permanent state where nothing is true but that which you will into reality. Deconstruction tears down everything and leaves you with nothing, anything you construct can be torn down again, but if you try and skip recognizing it as merely a process and not a worldview then you can declare everything within your purview to reconstruct. Millenia of social forces and institutions? Reject them, reconstruct them as you wish, the people who constructed them were only as human as you after all and they didn't know what you know. Those who stand in your way are just Bad People who do Bad Things to Good People. Bob doesn't even really understand the first part of this paragraph, he just knows that Good People support the nihilism of endless deconstruction while foolish Believers think life has meaning.

The irony of the superhero films he worships is that the two popular villains considered nihilists to be adapted to billion dollar glory had to be made into obvious liars (The Joker) or stripped completely of nihilism (Thanos) because the very nihilism that Bob routinely preaches to place things he likes outside of acceptable criticism is entirely unacceptable for a villain in popular culture. Bob rejects even this, a properly nihilist villain would be too much characterization for him, he thinks villains are acceptable if they simply do villainous actions and then heroes come in and do heroic actions. How does Bob know which actions are heroic and which are villainous? Thousands of years of human culture that requires endless study by the very same humans? Of course not you non-person, Bob simply knows what is Good and what is Bad, and always has because every possible action, event and even thought always fits Bob's originally adopted model.

The appropriate quote for Bob from a superhero movie is, of course, from BvS*: "I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all... They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to." Would Modern Bob realize that this line is supposed to help you recognize that the goddamn Batman has lost his goddamn mind and is prepping himself to do a permanently Good Thing to a Bad Non-Person? (The next line: "You were never a god, you were never even a man.")

*I know it's from TDKR, but the context is different in BvS, Bruce's plan in TDKR is a little more elaborate than: 1. Murder Clark. 2. ??? 3. Profit Superior Future.
 
He's incredibly insecure in his tastes and need to be the smartest guy in the room. It's hilarious to read his Twitter because of his need to twist logic until he's right.

The funniest thing is he has so little faith in humanity he thinks this shit is believable
When he talks about shit like this, it reminds me of the guy in Spinal Tapp who says the band's music is "deep" and "you can get a lot out of it."

Bob is very much like him. The MCU is a deli bologna sandwich that he insists is top-flight filet mignon. Whereas that hapless metal head was a character in a movie that nonetheless mocked real life people who innocently sought deeper meaning in dick cheese 80's metal, Bob is a special kind of pathetic.

The Sistene Chapel was painted for the purpose of faith and to add grandeur to a holy site. Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to resolve a deep religious dispute afflicting his empire. To compare a CG artist slaving away on a shot that should have been done practically to the former and Fiege and company sitting around a boardroom hammering out another phase to the latter is childish at best and sinister at worst. It seriously devalues the art and greatness of the past. But that is probably Bobert's intention. He often speaks ill if the "inferior" past, so degrading it to elevate modernity isn't beyond Mr. No Bad Tactics.
 
how long did it take you guys to be able to understand bob-ese?
seriously, everything this guy types is some reference or euphemism stuck behind 3 layers of parentheticals. i literally cannot understand half of what he tweets

I just stick a shard of glass into my brain until I start talking in a Boston accent. It's been totally reversible, at least so faaah.

Oh FAAACK!
 
how long did it take you guys to be able to understand bob-ese?
seriously, everything this guy types is some reference or euphemism stuck behind 3 layers of parentheticals. i literally cannot understand half of what he tweets
That's the trick. You don't "understand" it all per se, you just have to make an educated guess. His Random Access Humor and Random Access References make so you have to squint and scratch your head enough so that, maybe, the point will become at least semi-clear. It also doesn't help that his grammar and punctuation are atrocious, so the message he's trying to convey gets even more indecipherable.
 
The Sistene Chapel was painted for the purpose of faith and to add grandeur to a holy site. Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to resolve a deep religious dispute afflicting his empire. To compare a CG artist slaving away on a shot that should have been done practically to the former and Fiege and company sitting around a boardroom hammering out another phase to the latter is childish at best and sinister at worst. It seriously devalues the art and greatness of the past. But that is probably Bobert's intention. He often speaks ill if the "inferior" past, so degrading it to elevate modernity isn't beyond Mr. No Bad Tactics.

I think this is where Bob's total lack of theory of mind comes into play. Bob not only denies the numinous, or belief in higher powers or any of the heady concepts of the great religions; he isn't capable of understanding why someone would believe them, and so holds them in contempt as The Stupids or holds them in contempt as scam artists. There is no in between. There is no genuine believer who isn't an unevolved obsolescent and there is no intelligent person who proclaims faith who isn't running some kind of con. Bob thinks of himself as very intelligent, and only supports things on a mercenary basis -- "Marvel is top of the heap, so preaching its evangels will make me more influential and at the vanguard of culture." But at the same time, he can't square the miserable failure of his life with the fact he is so Intelligent. Intelligent people succeed! Where have I gone wrong?!

His thinking, such as it is, is very simple, incredibly self-centered, egotistical to the point of pathology, and deeply hateful of most everything around him. I doubt Bob has ever had a friend, only people he pretended friendship to so as to gain some advantage (almost always, I imagine, delusional).

It truly seems like a miserable way to live. No wonder he drinks and tweets ... though honestly I think the latter addiction is, at this point, the more damaging one.
 
how long did it take you guys to be able to understand bob-ese?
seriously, everything this guy types is some reference or euphemism stuck behind 3 layers of parentheticals. i literally cannot understand half of what he tweets
The method I use is to look for keywords to understand what his basic argument is and ignore the swollen, purple prose. Once I have a grasp on what he's trying to get across I look for contradictions, assumptions, and falsities/lies. I then think about how John Q Public would take being told this directly to his face. That doesn't always work as sometimes what he says is complete nonsense. For example look at his "I seldom end up making up my own plate" tweet. Ignoring the redundancy of the up, what does this actually mean? He's taking great pains to try to be clever and say that he has no one steady but regularly fucks...random people or possibly family members but makes a shitty metaphor that, laughably, is centered around food.

Not that trying to make sense out of him is worth it most times. You can basically break down his tweets into 3 categories:
  • Hate tweets about the dreaded other
  • Consoom
  • Dunning-Kruger levels of smugness
There's the rare self pity post but it almost never goes past those categories. Once you realize this there's very little benefit from spending the time trying to read the tism runes outside of being a Bobologist. I know as I spent many an hour chronicling the Lord of Lynn's non-life. Outside of this thread it will offer you no benefit. You will never dissuade him or any of his sycophant's from their position, even using Ben Shapiro levels of facts and logic on them, and most people don't like Bob anyways or knows he exists.
 
how long did it take you guys to be able to understand bob-ese?
seriously, everything this guy types is some reference or euphemism stuck behind 3 layers of parentheticals. i literally cannot understand half of what he tweets
I can usually grok it on the first pass, sometimes second if it's a particularly horrendous run-on stream of consciousness, but it takes all my autism to be able to figure out what the fuck he's on about. Good thing I have far better reading comprehension than Bob does.
 
Pretty generous of you to think that Bob can even read,let alone comprehend anything that’s not a comic book about Mario or an instruction manual about a Mario Bros. game.
I have a strong suspicion that Bob's a victim of the same phenomenon as many of the Gen-X and Millenials, that of learning "whole word/whole language" reading. They can stitch words together but they didn't get (for the most part) proper phonics instruction. It makes reading comprehension turn to shit. My (public) school taught kids to read this way and I was confused as I already knew how to read (with phonics). Kids reading out loud sounded like little fucking robots and it sounded so weird.
 
Oh my God, did he really compare the MCU to what is arguably one of the greatest creations of Renaissance art? Wow... Bob really doesn't get out much. While I hate the MCU I do love old school Marvel comics and even I know that they aren't great works of art. They are, more or less, fun morality tales for kids and teens and fantastical reads for adults. They were suppose to be a mythology for the modern age and nothing more. The fact that he compares a movie franchise that was designed to just put butts in seats and make people consume whatever flashing lights are on screen to something that is considered both a masterpiece of Renaissance art and a symbol of pride for a nation. Jesus Christ Bob, you really showed just how anti-intellectual and dumb you are.
 
I have a strong suspicion that Bob's a victim of the same phenomenon as many of the Gen-X and Millenials, that of learning "whole word/whole language" reading. They can stitch words together but they didn't get (for the most part) proper phonics instruction. It makes reading comprehension turn to shit. My (public) school taught kids to read this way and I was confused as I already knew how to read (with phonics). Kids reading out loud sounded like little fucking robots and it sounded so weird.
How does that work? Is it like teaching reading by only recognizing the shapes of words rather than the sounds of the individual letters or combos of letters? That's asinine for any written language that uses phonic characters like the Latin alphabet.
 
How does that work? Is it like teaching reading by only recognizing the shapes of words rather than the sounds of the individual letters or combos of letters? That's asinine for any written language that uses phonic characters like the Latin alphabet.
Here's a good summary:


The Look Say method was created by John Dewey (the Dewey Decimal System Guy), and he was trying to emulate the Chinese language, which itself uses pictographs. Unfortunately, it renders a kid unable to decode unfamiliar words since they don't know how the individual letters are pronounced. Kids using the Look Say method ended up so retarded that they had to invent a show (Sesame Street) to teach inner city kids phonics. (I have no idea if this is true, but that's my theory.)

I think this is where Bob's total lack of theory of mind comes into play. Bob not only denies the numinous, or belief in higher powers or any of the heady concepts of the great religions; he isn't capable of understanding why someone would believe them, and so holds them in contempt as The Stupids or holds them in contempt as scam artists. There is no in between. There is no genuine believer who isn't an unevolved obsolescent and there is no intelligent person who proclaims faith who isn't running some kind of con.

This is Bob's autism at work. He saw one too many TV shows where the earnest believer turned out to be a con artist, and he glommed onto it, using it as a free pass to ignore anyone who was earnest about something he didn't like. It didn't help that Bob grew up during many of the Evangelical TV Preacher scandals, where popular religious figures like Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart were outed as adulterers who fleeced their flocks for money. There was probably no better time to be a budding fedora-tipper, with these clowns always showing you how right you are and how corrupt the religious establishment of the time was.
 
Bobs hatred of Nerdrotic is amusing to me. Mainly because it stems from jealously. Think about it. Gary, despite early struggles with addiction in his life, is everything Bob is not in that:
  • He is happily married with kids.
  • Has friends.
  • Owns his own house.
  • Was a successful small business owner.
  • Is now a popular YouTuber/Live Streamer on nerd culture.
  • Is a genuine nerd who knows what he is talking about.
  • Doesn't suck corpo dick.
  • Has a IQ that is higher then room temperature.
  • Is not fat.
You know Bob envy is a sin with roots in vainglory. The philosopher Bertrand Russell believed that envy was the common cause of unhappiness and depression. Boy, it is eerie how right Russell is in regards to you and your envy Bob.
 
Here's a good summary:


The Look Say method was created by John Dewey (the Dewey Decimal System Guy), and he was trying to emulate the Chinese language, which itself uses pictographs. Unfortunately, it renders a kid unable to decode unfamiliar words since they don't know how the individual letters are pronounced. Kids using the Look Say method ended up so retarded that they had to invent a show (Sesame Street) to teach inner city kids phonics. (I have no idea if this is true, but that's my theory.)
Ah, that makes sense though I think that article is mixing guys up or I'm getting lost in a lot of articles attributing different names to it. I've been studying Japanese as of late and it sounded more like how you'd treat pictographs. I never really looked into Chinese but I don't even think that's how the Chinese teach their children to read either. If I'm not mistaken, they use pinyin aka borrowed Latin characters to start and then introduce hanzi to simplify things.

Though it seems the "Look Say" method started around the time their literacy rate was still around 20%. One of the few good things you can say about the commies is they managed to figure out a way to make their language more teachable.
 
There are cases when the author dies mid-work, and said work is completed by another, such recent case is the manga "Berserker", the author recently passed away but his team and best friend are carrying on with the work, and the fanbase seems to be taking the new chapters as canon because it seems the story has been already been delineated by the original author.
I'm very mad that you didn't fucking bring up that The Goddamn Silmarillion was written posthumously by Tolkien's son. To the point that I've seen fucking drama among Tolkien nerds that dismiss it as fan fiction by Christopher.
I believe in this context, since Amazon's series is a prequel to LotR, Bob's referring to The Silmarillion instead of The Hobbit/LotR. Having actually read The Silmarillion and not just skimmed a Wikipedia article, I would not say it's entirely unfilmable, but it would be a major challenge.

First and foremost, the language is very poetic, and it can be somewhat difficult to parse what exactly is happening. There are also a lot of names to keep track of, and many characters will have two or three used to refer to them, which adds to the challenge of getting through it all. Also, much of the book takes place over thousands of years with little that a more casual LotR fan would recognize. Creation myths, elvish conflicts, Morgoth's schemes and machinations, finally leading to the rise and fall of Numenor...there's a lot to unpack in just a single volume.

I'd still say it would be doable to film it, but there would be some hurdles to overcome. One of the big ones is that whatever you film would almost certainly not live up to Tolkien's own imagination, simply because much of it is supposed to be entirely otherworldly. How do you film things of perfect beauty, after all? And because of the enormous time scales involved, you'd have to basically spell out to the audience how much time has passed between events (or you could go the Amazon route and squish it all down into a week or so apparently). To do it right, you'd probably have to do multiple long series just to cover all the material, a major undertaking to say the least.

That said, there are certainly stories within The Silmarillion that would make for good film, especially those that were republished and expanded later on by Christopher Tolkien using more of his father's notes. Beren and Lúthien, Túrin Turambar, and the Fall of Gondolin are more traditional stories taking place over a shorter time scale, though you'd need probably context to actually understand their plots and how they fit into the story. But I could certainly see them being filmed, though doing them well is not necessarily something I would trust a studio to do, especially not with Amazon basically making shit up whole cloth and passing it off as being faithful to the work.

Anyway, this is all to say that Bob is retarded as usual, and no amount of Wikipedia skimming will make up for that.
I've always been of the mind that it is unfilmable in the sense that you are essentially trying to film the actual History of the World regardless of which part. And while Tolkien doesn't even quite get to that scope. A lot of characters last a hell of a lot longer than many people do in the real world. Like there's kind of a through line in the Silmarillion, but like god knows it takes forever to get there, and god knows the amount of fucking diversions fuck with that. And like, you could probably make a Turin Turambar film or a Beren and Luthien film. But even fucking then, especially the latter doesn't exactly come out cleanly. You do miss a lot of context and setup without explaining the Simarils.

Which gets to my ultimate point. And one that has been chapping my ass in all of this. Tolkien wrote a history. Because Tolkien understood history. It's always gotten me some controversy considering my job. But, you guys know that thing where you'll hear of some person who did some neat thing, and then everyone is like "why didn't we learn about this in history class?". I fucking despise that. As far as I'm concerned. That shit isn't history. Friend of mine told me it's sugar packet history or something like that.

Because history is everything that leads up to shit happening. World War II isn't half as interesting as what the hell caused it. Otherwise it'd just be blind violence. And then you say stupid shit like "We shouldn't have bombed the Japanese". Because, if you understood the evolution of how war is fought, or how Americans really value minimizing casualties, or how the Japanese viewed the world, then you'd probably agree.

Which is the problem with Bob and his ilk. There's nothing more than the world in front of their fucking faces. Look to the way he talked about the Germans and the Polish. He knows a few bullet points. And he uses that to justify the fucking blinkered view he has on the world. And I'm not even talking about the lack of culture. He and his kin has no goddamn intellectual curiosity. The world is as they see it. All things fall into the boxes they make it. There are no good Conservatives. For they disagree with them. Why understand why you disagree with them? That doesn't make sense. They had the exact same lives I did. They live in the same world I do. How did they miss all the important lessons I learned?

This is why Tolkien is too fucking good for them. Tolkien is too complex for them. And Tolkien is fucking nothing in the grand scheme. It's a fairly cut and dry world where lessons can be learned about greed, and laziness, and apathy, and bravery, about being stuck in the wrong place at all kinds of time of varying correctness. For fuck's sake. The most important thing Tolkien ever laid out was

“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”​

And they don't even understand this. Because this isn't even just "do the right thing". I'd almost say it's the fucking crux of all his writing. From Frodo taking up the quest. To Bilbo following the Dwarves. To Feanor choosing to use his talents and power to make and covet his own creations. That was his choice to do with the time he was given. Hell even between Gandalf, Saruman, and Sauron, are all given the same time. And look at the misery the latter two bring with the time they are given. And all the good Gandalf did with the exact same he was given. Shit, it spells out the point of the Elves and the Humans. Elves have literally all the goddamn time in the world, and humans have almost nothing. And both sides do all kinds of amazing things. Yet, the core even among the bravest Elf and the most timid Human, is that amount of time. Look at Glorfindel telling people to flee, fight another day against the Witch King. Glorfindel had those other days. He had countless numbers of days. Where as Eowyn, did not and finally decided to end this problem. And forgive me for going on this. It's a very important thing to me.

And Bob? It's not even the sloth he chooses to spend his time with. It's the hate. And not only that. He derides others for how they spend their time. Not only for thinking that they should choose to do what he does with his time, his fantastical charities and deliveries upon the world. But, he has simply no fucking understanding of why anyone would choose to do with their time given, besides what Bob has deemed to be the correct usage of time. Because he is, has always been. And will always be, completely blinkered.
 
How does that work? Is it like teaching reading by only recognizing the shapes of words rather than the sounds of the individual letters or combos of letters? That's asinine for any written language that uses phonic characters like the Latin alphabet.
it's literally teaching word-by-word as a whole word rather than as separate letters. It works for a language such as Chinese, for the whole words are separate pictograms rather than a standard alphabet. And yes, it's not only as asinine for a language with an alphabet (like Latin or Cyrillic) as you would expect, the Soviet Red Army tried using it to teach soldiers to read and found out it really screwed things up - they even found that dyslexia suddenly became a HUGE problem. So they ditched whole word/whole language and went back to phonics. Many experts have found that dyslexia is a lot more common among those who were not taught reading by phonics - going so far as to say it CAUSES dyslexia. Me, I was taught with phonics and i can read stupid-fast whereas most of my peers (who were not taught previously to going to school) struggled to read at any sort of reasonable pace.

A communist teacher/"educator" by the name of John Dewey (early 1900s) was a huge advocate for this method of teaching reading. He believed that if he could dumb down education sufficiently, that children would be more accepting of socialism. He wasn't wrong. Whole Language/Whole Word/Look-Say style was pioneered in the "Dick and Jane" readers (no phonics). It's similar to the Canadian Gage readers "A Pocketful of Sunshine" from darn near 50 years ago. If you ever wondered why Johnny Bobby can't read, this is why. I don't think Bobby's grandma had the foresight to teach any of those kids to read before they hit kindergarten. The bullshit premise behind "Whole Word" was that children should then easily recognize words without having to "decode" them like in Phonics. There was a book (and I have it somewhere) called "Why Johnny Can't Read" (1955), which was a huge takedown of the entire look-say/whole word method.

Of course Bob is thicker than pigshit and although he has no love for Communists, he doesn't even know what's going on here and if he had any clue he'd hate ALL Leftists, not just Communists.
 
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