Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[TopTierHealer]

I think you're overestimating Bobs cultural knowledge here. I think it's as simple as Bob associating being happy and positive with things he experienced as a child so he assumes everything was better when he was a child.

To current year Bob you need to apply current year logic, it's always going to be fake and gay. Since this is Bob's thread let's use a pop-culture reference: Scrubs, to medical cases in Season 1 or 2, when the residents were trying to one up each other with rare diseases had Dr Cox say, "if you hear galloping think of horses, not zebras". The simplest solution will always be right with Bob because he's just not that complicated of a person.

I know I'm guilty of a-logging the myriad of psychological issues Bob but in the end it's just that he's a dummy with an inferiority complex of being called a dummy.

So don't look for theories on why Bob will give a positive score to A and a negative one to B, it will always boil down to:

• Nintendo
• Democrats
• Pussy
• Capeshit
• His childhood (which may or may not contain things from that list)

You put that into any topic and he will salivate like Pavlov's Dog (I may have gotten the order of preference wrong but you get my point).

Finally, to all Bobologists that think he has autism. I'm firmly in the camp that he doesn't (and that children are over-diagnosed with autism nowadays).

He's just a dummy that thinks he's smarter than he really is. He doesn't have anything medically wrong with him that would make him unable to not recognize social cues.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

MCU villains are simultaneously completely dull and unsympathetic but also rarely come across as threatening or actually evil. They're usually misguided to the point of retardation or just greedy. It's a shame because the villains can often be the best part of a good superhero story, but I guess modern cinema doesn't have room for well written villains. Or even entertaining ones for that matter.

The writers of modern cinema tend to be mental children who cannot bear the thought of losing, undergoing a challenge, or being threatened in any way. As such, they neuter the villains so they're less of a threat than they should be. Either that, or they cave to the Twitterati who don't want to see their millionth first stronk wahman evar face a real challenge.

 

[Meat Target]

The writers of modern cinema tend to be mental children who cannot bear the thought of losing, undergoing a challenge, or being threatened in any way. As such, they neuter the villains so they're less of a threat than they should be. Either that, or they cave to the Twitterati who don't want to see their millionth first stronk wahman evar face a real challenge.

Which is also why everything these days is a reboot. They're allergic to new ideas or independent thought, and need to have everything be their 80's/90's childhood nostalgiawank on a loop.

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

You can't win history, you can't even "win" history. There is no possible end state that will be acceptable forever despite changes in participants, observers, circumstances, and knowledge. (Well, maybe 1984's eternal present where history is a fiction constantly changing to prop things up, but it'd be even harder to imagine "winning" that.) It would be the cultural equivalent of absolute immortality.

Oh, wait, he wants that too.

 

[Laughingjoke2]

WTF does he mean "We Won in the 90's" Because Clinton was in the White House.

Bobert you're just showing what a stupid kid you were given you didn't even know what the fuck was going on given you thought then it was all sunshine and rainbows. Here are the major U.S. events I remember during the Clinton years.

The World Trade Center Bombing, Ruby Ridge, the Branch Davidians, Oklahoma City Bombing, Lewinsky Scandal, Whitewater and the Clintons, and we became more politically divided with Clinton and Newt Gingrich hell Reagan and Tip O'Neill use to have drinks together every week.

 

[Gaear Grimsrud]

I think the "won history" thing was about some people thinking that all the major wars and conflicts were behind them. That western liberal democracy had "won", and was going to spread everywhere.

Then 9/11 happened.

The idea comes from this book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man

 

[Judge Dredd]

So don't look for theories on why Bob will give a positive score to A and a negative one to B, it will always boil down to:

• Nintendo
• Democrats
• Pussy
• Capeshit
• His childhood (which may or may not contain things from that list)

I'd put his childhood at the top of the list. Even his love of Democrats is because during the 80s and 90s it was fundie Rupublicans who were the villains, and he still holds on to that mindset. Even though these days it's the left that are censoring things they don't like, making cringy media that puts preaching before entertainment, and generally being out of touch politically.

 

[bajagoogoo]

You can't win history, you can't even "win" history. There is no possible end state that will be acceptable forever despite changes in participants, observers, circumstances, and knowledge. (Well, maybe 1984's eternal present where history is a fiction constantly changing to prop things up, but it'd be even harder to imagine "winning" that.) It would be the cultural equivalent of absolute immortality.

Oh, wait, he wants that too.

One thing everyone should keep in mind when Bob decides to comment on a piece of nostalgia; he's a poseur.

He didn't live in the 90's. He existed in the 90's.

There's no scrapbook of terrible Polaroid's of a young Chipman and his friends. No Myrtle Beach spring break. No waiting half an hour for the chance to get into Limelight. No spur of the moment university road trip with his girlfriend.

What there really was was Bob sitting alone in his bedroom, surrounded by junk food, playing SMB to such an extent that he started to relate to the character.

That's his youth. Literally all of it.

 

[A Pale Shadow]

Well, let's be fair, he did also like Dragonball Z. Which came out in America when he was in college. God, he really has always had such childish tastes.

I seem to recall him shitting all over the dub and conflating it with dudebro chuds. The dub changed some shit sure, but I've never felt the tone of it was THAT different like he claims.

So what do you think Kiwis, what anime will he pretend to be an expert of, if any? I think it has to be not mainstream, wacky, but have a fanbase. I'll throw my hat in with either Ranma 1/2, Wicked City (some cult film review YouTubers covered it a year or two ago), and Princess Tutu ("It sounds like a girly anime, but it's paced like a Marvel movie!").

As someone who followed Bob content for a long time before bailing, he very rarely speaks of anime outside the very broadest terms. The only series I recall him ever caring all that much about was the Ninja Gaiden anime, which was very middling and unremarkable, and the obscure Super Mario Bros anime. Naturally.

 

[Rei is shit]

I was messing around on twitter and found someone who has this as their pinned tweet.

 

[Red Hood]

That's honestly painful to look at. I'm not just talking about the obnoxious product placement, I'm talking about the clashing colours and cartoon imagery.

If Moviebob thinks this is "winning", I'd like to lose.

I doubt Bob knows what winning is. I have my doubts he even beat Mario 3.

 

[Lasersuit Larry]

I think the "won history" thing was about some people thinking that all the major wars and conflicts were behind them. That western liberal democracy had "won", and was going to spread everywhere.

Then 9/11 happened.

The idea comes from this book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man

'Winning history' is also a central theme to the dialectical nonsense that underpins a lot of why woke progressives are as fucked up as they are; the idea that history is a socio-political struggle between progressive and reactionary ideologies that is 'won' cyclically, creating societal progress.

Which is a belief that, if you know anything at all about the basic behavioral nature of both regular people and the puffed up autistic douchebags who indulge in this kind of brain-rot, you'd quickly recognize is as nutty as monkey shit. These people huff it like turpentine.

Even Blob and his ilk, who don't have the gears needed to grind together and realize it.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Something about the way he talks about it makes me think he only just heard of it. If he did know of it, he only knows the name from his teen years, but never watched it before.

Like @EnemyStand said, I'm guessing he stumbled across some YouTuber or Twitter user talking about it, did a bit of wikipedia scholarship, and is now going to be an expert on all things 80s and 90s anime.

So what do you think Kiwis, what anime will he pretend to be an expert of, if any? I think it has to be not mainstream, wacky, but have a fanbase. I'll throw my hat in with either Ranma 1/2, Wicked City (some cult film review YouTubers covered it a year or two ago), and Princess Tutu ("It sounds like a girly anime, but it's paced like a Marvel movie!").

It'll be whatever this RetroCrush puts out next. I didn't mention it but that video, that he linked, is from RetroCrush's own youtube channel. I would not be surprised if he was fed all of those things he said. If they did I wonder if they even bothered to pay him. He is nothing more than a walking ad, whether he knows it or not.

He better not sully the good name of Princess Tutu. That show is so stupid I like.

 

[EnemyStand]

It'll be whatever this RetroCrush puts out next. I didn't mention it but that video, that he linked, is from RetroCrush's own youtube channel. I would not be surprised if he was fed all of those things he said. If they did I wonder if they even bothered to pay him. He is nothing more than a walking ad, whether he knows it or not.

He better not sully the good name of Princess Tutu. That show is so stupid I like.

That's good to know. I guess he's trying anything to stay relevant, but the fact is his "knowledge" is so shallow any Otaku worth the title would ignore his anime bullshit.

 

[bajagoogoo]

That's honestly painful to look at. I'm not just talking about the obnoxious product placement, I'm talking about the clashing colours and cartoon imagery.

That wasn't the norm. An establishment needed some real money to embrace that level of 90's garishness. They were extremely few and far between.

Chipman latches on to that type of 90's look because his time in the 90's was sitting in a bedroom eating junk food and playing SMB to an obsessive degree.

This was what the 90's looked like.

If Moviebob thinks this is "winning", I'd like to lose.

He's doing what he always does. Trying to convince his audience that he wasn't a self imposed shut in.

 

[Gaear Grimsrud]

'Winning history' is also a central theme to the dialectical nonsense that underpins a lot of why woke progressives are as fucked up as they are; the idea that history is a socio-political struggle between progressive and reactionary ideologies that is 'won' cyclically, creating societal progress.

Which is a belief that, if you know anything at all about the basic behavioral nature of both regular people and the puffed up autistic douchebags who indulge in this kind of brain-rot, you'd quickly recognize is as nutty as monkey shit. These people huff it like turpentine.

Even Blob and his ilk, who don't have the gears needed to grind together and realize it.

I think it's another example of Bob listening to pop bullshit of the time about how the future was gonna be, and being eternally pissed off because he thinks he was promised something that he didn't get.

He thinks the future got derailed.

He can't accept that it was all pop culture American-centric bullshit that we were never on track for in the first place.

 

[Flexo]

I'll fully admit that I am very blackpilled the past four years so maybe I just need to touch more grass. I'm just so sick of these people. I'm so sick of their actual worship of their mass produced detritus and plastic trite. I'm so sick of the throwing away of all of our history because it's not current year. I will also never be able get over the amazement and wonder I get from seeing these people. It is an interesting feeling.

I was actually going to post this link for the board which is a very fascinating listen.

Is Postmodernism Wiping Out Human Adaptability?

Biologists Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss their book 'A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century: Evolution and the Challenges of Modern Life.'

thefederalist.com

“I would say, not necessarily a technological tipping point or at least not one that will be universal, but that there is a sort of a conflagration of technological and developmental and societal factors that are creating something that may be a tipping point,” Heying said. “This combination of features and modern, weird, Western-educated, industrialized, rich, democratic society children is going to create a whole lot of people who arrive at the cusp of adulthood without actually knowing how to be in their own bodies, what risk looks like, where comfort is desirable and where it’s not.”​

There's especially a quote around the 25 min mark about the body degrading that proves Bob so much it's really hilarious.

 

[Flexo]

and Princess Tutu ("It sounds like a girly anime, but it's paced like a Marvel movie!").

I'm actually watching that anime now and I'm going to have to kill you for putting that horrible thought in my hard drive.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

You can't win history, you can't even "win" history. There is no possible end state that will be acceptable forever despite changes in participants, observers, circumstances, and knowledge. (Well, maybe 1984's eternal present where history is a fiction constantly changing to prop things up, but it'd be even harder to imagine "winning" that.) It would be the cultural equivalent of absolute immortality.

Oh, wait, he wants that too.

His avatar is just too perfect. This missing link looking asshole trying to explain tacky design of yesteryear as politics rather than the 80s were blending with the 50s and future influences in god awful fashion.

It seems design is yet another blind spot for Boob.

 

[Tronathon242]

You can't win history, you can't even "win" history. There is no possible end state that will be acceptable forever despite changes in participants, observers, circumstances, and knowledge. (Well, maybe 1984's eternal present where history is a fiction constantly changing to prop things up, but it'd be even harder to imagine "winning" that.) It would be the cultural equivalent of absolute immortality.

Oh, wait, he wants that too.

'Winning history' is also a central theme to the dialectical nonsense that underpins a lot of why woke progressives are as fucked up as they are; the idea that history is a socio-political struggle between progressive and reactionary ideologies that is 'won' cyclically, creating societal progress.

Which is a belief that, if you know anything at all about the basic behavioral nature of both regular people and the puffed up autistic douchebags who indulge in this kind of brain-rot, you'd quickly recognize is as nutty as monkey shit. These people huff it like turpentine.

Even Blob and his ilk, who don't have the gears needed to grind together and realize it.

This sort of thinking manifests itself in one, single, profoundly retarded phrase that Bob and his kind shout incessantly: "You're on the wrong side of history." They're all convinced that they are going to win and have an IngSoc like grip on the world and erase all the opposition because destiny is destiny or something. They ought to know that everything else in the past lays such ambition out as a massive pipe dream, but I can't say whether it's more ignorance or denial that they don't.

I think it's another example of Bob listening to pop bullshit of the time about how the future was gonna be, and being eternally pissed off because he thinks he was promised something that he didn't get.

He thinks the future got derailed.

He can't accept that it was all pop culture American-centric bullshit that we were never on track for in the first place.

If he actually cracked open a book instead of fucking about in the Mushroom Kingdom half his goddamned life, he would understand that point.

It bears repeating even if I've said this before: history isn't a straight line. Civilization has collapsed. Dark ages have come. Empires and superpowers rise and fall. It's all cyclical in a way, but it all leads to momentous progress followed by devolution of sorts. You can't predict the next course of anything with great certainty.

Much like the "winning history" thing, Bob's profoundly uninformed and incorrect mind came up with this notion that the cartoons he watched presaged the future. They all just had to be inevitable. He would have his flying cars and robot soul machines and robohookers and blackjack parlors run by Flexo and what not.

But, again, you can't come close to fully predicting the future. Did those cartoons show we'd have the Internet? As others have pointed out, did the policy makers in the 90's declaring the "end of history" ever have an inkling that we'd be dicking about in Afghanistan for 20 years to no avail? No one fucking did. Hell, I played a Top Gun game in 2001 that predicted the next major theme of warfare would be over water and resources in the Arctic. Big whiff on that one.

Devoting yourself to an ideal is one thing. Basing your entire belief system around using pop culture as an oracle is beyond pathetic.