Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Mola Ram]

But to bring this back to Bob, if I remember right, he mostly likes the GotG movies because 2 reminds him of issues with he has with his father and so he places extra value on it. Might've been the last movie they saw together too but I don't remember.

He also has a nearly homoerotic level of devotion to James Gunn, mostly, I think, because early in his "career" he scored an interview with him, and has sort of vicariously gotten high off his success ever since. Bob Chipman: a portrait of unbiased journalism.

The Electoral College had everything to do with balancing power between large and small states in America’s new experiment in self-governance. It had nothing to do with slavery. What an inconvenient truth for those who would like to eliminate the system."

Bob is one of those people who is either incapable of or simply refuses to see the States as anything other than arbitrary administrative zones rather than the semi-sovereign entities they actually are. The sheer logistical nightmare of running a gigantic country of 370 million from a central capital, how vast and corrupt such a government would be, and the monstrous rights violations that would necessarily result from such a central government having no check on it from smaller states and municipalities are issues that don't even ping his radar, because muh Superior Future requires an iron-fisted dictatrix in a pantsuit, apparently.

 

[NQ 952]

I can't be the only one that thinks @TerribleIdeas™ should be the official mascot of this thread.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

The basic form of Sonic is there, all they have to do is edit it and that wont take long. They wont even have to change the rigging very much either. The real difficulty will come in when they do the lip syncing again.

I should mention that CGI isn't finalized until the day the movie is shipped out to theatres. Even Deadpool movies have bad animation in their first trailer that need to be worked on.

 

[The tired cat]

The MCU version of the Guardians are pretty poor adaptations and might as well be original characters. I can only imagine the mood whiplash if someone liked the "band of quirky losers" and decided to check out the comic version who have a more serious origin. Some like Drax just share a name and design similarities but nothing else in common.

That doesn't make the 2 movies bad on their own, I only mean they're a poor showing of the source material and mostly just have the "Whoa, never heard of them? So wacky" the MCU Guardians seem designed around instead. They're based around the novelty rather than the source material.

But to bring this back to Bob, if I remember right, he mostly likes the GotG movies because 2 reminds him of issues with he has with his father and so he places extra value on it. Might've been the last movie they saw together too but I don't remember.

Welp, let's be honest the GoTG comics aren't exactly the best written ones when it comes to it's source material be it from their "serious" origins down to their stories, to me anyway I mean it always felt like it tried to be like DC in a strange fashion. At best, they were just "okay", though I could be wrong but didn't later Marvel give them a rework to make them more fit with the MCU version, 'cause I remember liking a short running Rocket raccoon series that had that style and was fairly fun to read.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

Bob loves to call the funding fathers racist because he can then wave away anything they did that he doesn't like. It saves him the trouble of thinking up intellectual supports for his own political positions, and moves the argument to an emotional level. Which is just where he likes it, it means he can argue by invective and innuendo. He does the same thing to everyone on the right, really.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

I can't be the only one that thinks @TerribleIdeas™ should be the official mascot of this thread.

I'm not sure if I should be flattered by the suggestion, or horrified by the comparison to MoobieBob.

 

[RockVolnutt]

Bob loves to call the funding fathers racist because he can then wave away anything they did that he doesn't like. It saves him the trouble of thinking up intellectual supports for his own political positions, and moves the argument to an emotional level. Which is just where he likes it, it means he can argue by invective and innuendo. He does the same thing to everyone on the right, really.

One Bob-ism that always confused me is when he calls things "unamerican" despite his Superior Future shtick being centered around discarding the concept of nations. Like why care about half the stuff he does if America only arbitrarily exists? How do you fail to notice something odd when your idea of American ideals is shooting yourself so a world government can take over? That hypothetical world government clearly isn't the USA.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

For Bob (and waaay to many people on the left, if we're being perfectly honest), it's not enough that Electoral College can dispute the results of the popular vote, but it's also a horrifically racist system because everything they don't like is racist

 

[Mola Ram]

For Bob (and waaay to many people on the left, if we're being perfectly honest), it's not enough that Electoral College can dispute the results of the popular vote, but it's also a horrifically racist system because everything they don't like is racist

He doesn't give a shit if something is "un-American" or not. He thinks he understands what is American way better than those mouth breathing Wasteland ghouls, because he's so much smarter. When he raps something for being un-American, he's not chastising them -- he's pointing out what he sees as hypocrisy, and so demonstrating his Superior Intellect over the Obsolete.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

Sorry for the double the post, but this is necessary.

Yuji Naka blowing Bob the fuck out. Too bad Miyamoto will never care about him or address him in this way.
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I am absolutely amazed at how Bob has spent the last several days criticizing the Sonic movie, but is now angry at the fact that the producers are taking criticism into consideration and are making changes to the film.

 

[Mola Ram]

I am absolutely amazed at how Bob has spent the last several days criticizing the Sonic movie, but is now angry at the fact that the producers are taking criticism into consideration and are making changes to the film.

Bob is all-in on the current, baffling, self-destructive trend of creators treating their fanbases like dogshit. Since Bob is the furthest thing from a creator, it's a little puzzling why he would buy into it so heavily, but maybe it's just an extension of his craven throne-sniffing.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

Bob is all-in on the current, baffling, self-destructive trend of creators treating their fanbases like dogshit. Since Bob is the furthest thing from a creator, it's a little puzzling why he would buy into it so heavily, but maybe it's just an extension of his craven throne-sniffing.

I think a lot of it is how it reflects on Bob as a content creator. The videos that Bob has made online are not good quality by any measure. He hasn't reached Dobson levels, but he certainly has made it clear that he doesn't like criticism of his work. The way he constantly defends his far too long review of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is an example of this.

Seeing someone actually take criticism into account and decide to improve upon it doesn't sit well with Bob because he himself doesn't want to improve his work based on all the criticism he receives.

 

[Flexo]

Bob is all-in on the current, baffling, self-destructive trend of creators treating their fanbases like dogshit. Since Bob is the furthest thing from a creator, it's a little puzzling why he would buy into it so heavily, but maybe it's just an extension of his craven throne-sniffing.

It's not recent. Even before he started doing videos Bob's philosophy was - I swear I'm not making this up - "the artist is always right."

That hasn't change and keeping it in mind should help you understand most of his stuff.

 

[Mola Ram]

It's not recent. Even before he started doing videos Bob's philosophy was - I swear I'm not making this up - "the artist is always right."

That hasn't change and keeping it in mind should help you understand most of his stuff.

I sort of sympathize with that view. An artist should follow his vision, not alter it to cater to current trends or to offer mindless fanservice (both of which are busily destroying Game of Thrones right now). What I don't get is shitting on the very people who pay for your bread and butter because they dare to criticize you. You're not going to grow as an artist doing that, but maybe the whole problem is these people are so arrogant they don't think they need to grow as artists.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

The Electoral College had everything to do with balancing power between large and small states in America’s new experiment in self-governance. It had nothing to do with slavery. What an inconvenient truth for those who would like to eliminate the system.

Given how Bob doesn't understand how governance in the United States work, I shouldn't expect him to know how parliamentary democracies in other nations work, but I thought it would be worth mentioning. The American system has some better checks and balances than Westminster style its northern neighbor uses. Canada has no equivalent of the Electoral College and the Canadian Senate is a steaming mess. Unlike the United States senate, none of the Canadian provinces get equal representation (less populated and economically significant provinces like New Brunswick and Nova Scotia get more seats than Alberta or British Columbia) and the Prime Minister effectively appoints senators without needing input from the provinces. Furthermore, the seat distribution concentrates political power in the Windsor-Quebec City Corridor and--to a lesser extent--the lower mainland of British Columbia AKA Vancouver and its surrounding areas...

...it is essentially Bob's political wet dream.

However, the problem with that is that despite what the blockheads in Ottawa deluded themselves into thinking, Canada is not one happy federation. Regionalism and other interests have created some rather bitter divisions in the country particularly in the prairie provinces. The fight between Alberta and British Columbia over the Trans-Mountain Pipeline expansion for example, and then there's old resentments as the oil glut has cost the former 100,000 jobs, but Ottawa is more concerned about 20,000 from the GM plant closure in Oshawa and that clusterfuck that is SNC-Lavalin in Montreal. Then there is their dithering over the aforementioned TMX expansion and Bills C-48 and C-69 that hinder Alberta's ability to export bitumen. Alberta premier Jason Kenney has warned that these policies are threatening Canadian unity.

TL;DR Bob's favored method of a highly-centralized and borderline authoritarian (world) government are more likely cause more harm than good. Additionally, his elitism (like the Canadian governmental and media elite) renders him completely oblivious to this fact.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

It's not recent. Even before he started doing videos Bob's philosophy was - I swear I'm not making this up - "the artist is always right."

That hasn't change and keeping it in mind should help you understand most of his stuff.

I don't believe that, unless he'll go on record saying that Leni Riefenstahl was right. Like everything else, I'm guessing "the artist is always right" is warped by his political center of gravity being so far to the left that the center is over the horizon, never mind the right.

 

[Flexo]

I sort of sympathize with that view. An artist should follow his vision, not alter it to cater to current trends or to offer mindless fanservice (both of which are busily destroying Game of Thrones right now). What I don't get is shitting on the very people who pay for your bread and butter because they dare to criticize you. You're not going to grow as an artist doing that, but maybe the whole problem is these people are so arrogant they don't think they need to grow as artists.

The Cohen brothers have the right idea. They'll make a general crowd pleasing film like True Grit and then take the money it earns to do a quirky, more personal film they don't have to compromise on. They've successfully made films for years now with this alternating routine.

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I don't believe that, unless he'll go on record saying that Leni Riefenstahl was right. Like everything else, I'm guessing "the artist is always right" is warped by his political center of gravity being so far to the left that the center is over the horizon, never mind the right.

A little later I'll be able to go digging on his old blog for evidence. Though perhaps you can clarify your post in the meantime so i make sure i find the right quotes.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

A little later I'll be able to go digging on his old blog for evidence. Though perhaps you can clarify your post in the meantime so i make sure i find the right quotes.

Sorry, I'm a little lost here. I mean, I understand the premise of "the artist is always right," and I believe that you're reporting Bob's statements correctly. However, I don't believe that Bob "no bad tactics, only bad targets/muh right side of history" has the intellectual consistency to believe "the artist is always right" in practice.

 

[LiquidKid]

It's not recent. Even before he started doing videos Bob's philosophy was - I swear I'm not making this up - "the artist is always right."

That hasn't change and keeping it in mind should help you understand most of his stuff.

The problem with “The Artist is always right” is that it A-doesn’t fit in with the concept of criticism , and B-doesn’t apply to art intended to be sold to the mass public. These aren’t one of a kind Picasso paintings, these are movies/tv shows/books/video games. They’re products first and art second. So the artist is always right unless there there is customer involved. He just hates he idea that captialism has funded the creation of all his favorite art

 

[Flexo]

Sorry, I'm a little lost here. I mean, I understand the premise of "the artist is always right," and I believe that you're reporting Bob's statements correctly. However, I don't believe that Bob "no bad tactics, only bad targets/muh right side of history" has the intellectual consistency to believe "the artist is always right" in practice.

Ah gotcha. Actually I think it may be the most intellectually consistent position he has.

Of course just like he labels right wingers as subhuman or less than American, he is a little flexible on what constitutes an artist.

The problem with “The Artist is always right” is that it A-doesn’t fit in with the concept of criticism , and B-doesn’t apply to art intended to be sold to the mass public. These aren’t one of a kind Picasso paintings, these are movies/tv shows/books/video games. They’re products first and art second. So the artist is always right unless there there is customer involved. He just hates he idea that captialism has funded the creation of all his favorite art

Exactly, and now you know why he was so tone deaf to the mass effect 3 controversy.

I think he sees criticism as less explaining where the artist went wrong and more like explaining to the audience why they are wrong.

Oh he probably won't quite spell that out, but you'll notice it's how his stuff tends to go. (See: #rehireGunn)