Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Red Hood]

I honestly forgot that there were two Pacific Rim films.



My brain is doing the pretzel thing it does when it tries to understand Bob's politics.

I understand that Watchmen (alongside Crisis on Infinite Earths, Batman: The Killing Joke and Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns) kinda ruined comics for awhile, because they were very successful, which made everyone want to copy them. This made the 90s a very edgy period for comics and ended up hurting the industry as a whole. I don't think that the same thing can be said about the mecha genre. I don't really know much about it, but I don't really hear anyone saying that NGE changed it in the same why Watchmen changed comics. NGE was a great show, but (unless I'm mistaken) people still make mecha shows the same way they used to. Maybe this comparison would work if he talked about what Madoka did to magical girl shows, but he didn't. Also what does Pacific Rim have to do with anything?

Now, if you want to talk about NGE's largest legacy, I would have to say that it would be character design. NGE and Slayers have, through the characters of Asuka Langley Sohryu and Lina Inverse, have brought character design to heights that it hasn't seen since. It's very sad. It's like comparing Roman art to Medieval art.

Edit: Just realised that I'm rehashing most of what @RockVulnutt said. Sorry about that.

Ultimately it's not the edginess that hurt comics, it was 1) pandering to the collector's/speculator's market with tons of #1 "Special Collector's Issues" of comics that sucked, 2) endless crossover/crisis comics and massive story arcs that required you to follow a dozen comics that made it even more difficult to get into a comic from a newbie's perspective. The dark and edgy stuff that's associated with the 90's really never died- Ultimate Marvel was chock full of that shit. The only difference between the 2000's onward and the 90's is that Liefeld and McFarlane lost some of their former popularity and their art style fell out of favor, so it was less immediately visible. You can't tell me that an era where the Joker rips off his face and staples another over it and the Blob eats The Wasp on panel is a return to Silver Age "fun" that Bob has a nostalgia boner for despite being born about 15 years too late for it.

Watchmen and TDKR just represented some of the best work of a trend that started in the 70's with the O'Neil/Adams Batman run.

Ultimately in the 90's the speculator's market hurt comics, the difficulty of jumping in for new readers hurts it, and nowadays the expense for what might be a half hour of entertainment hurts it. Another factor might be that comics are mostly only available in specialty shops or through direct order now; I haven't seen them at a grocery store or bookstore in ages.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

This makes a lot of sense, but I don't think that you have to go so far as adding bio-luminescent African Americans into the equation to see Youtube surviving while making a negative profit. Youtube is owned by Google and they will keep pumping money into that beast, becuase it allows them to have a greater control of information. Google gets loads of money from other, profitable ventures, so they can get away with this.

The term everyone is dancing around and missing is "Loss Leader". Plus, the possibility exists that some unforeseen part of YT winds up being crucial 10+ years down the line, which would make Google uniquely positioned.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

So, here's something that occurs to me...

Was sent this video by a friend:

As stated in there is something I've also heard before: YouTube constantly loses money. In fact, judging by the tiny bit of research I've done on it, it looks like youTube is in no position to turn a profit for decades.

You think about something everyone is racing to, but which is unsustainable and operating at a loss and one word comes to mind: Bubble.

Remember the last tech bubble we had?

Which brings it all back to a riddle: What if YouTube's bubble pops? Remember how much Bob bragged about how hard he worked to be a relevant human being in the new economy etc etc? So what happens if that bubble pops? What happens if Bob's professional foundation is built on sand? Would we get the chance to see it?

And which would you bet on dying first? Bob? Or his career?

EDIT: Whoops, forgot to put in: What just happened on YouTube? Another adpocalypse. How many more of those do you think the platform can stand before popping?

This biggest problem that I see, Null wrote about this in his deleted Medium article that the coward took down the link to the archive for, is that youtube can loose money essentially forever as they are propped up by Alphabet. The money youtube doesn't bring in is a drop in the bucket compared to the ocean of wealth it's parent company is swimming in. I think that what youtube can't bring in with cash it more than makes up with user information and metadata. An entire generation of kids are being raised up to put their name and face on everything they post and stream and while we're at it might as well turn on "Access Location" because it's too much of a hassle to punch it in yourself.

Then there's the influence part. Youtube has flat out admitted that they mess with your suggested feed and the search algorithm to get you to watch what they want you too. In fact, they're going so far as to de-rank things they consider "conspiratorial". So when you hear MSM say something and you try to do your own research to verify "X" claim you're going to be stuck in a feed back loop of their narrative. The bonus to this is that this is also going to disincentive people from making counter content as they will not be getting any engagement which in turn makes youtube's job all that more easy.

Youtube is in a no loss position. It cannot fail because it is not built in a way where financial success isn't even a factor. We will most likely never see a competitor due to the HUGE infrastructure and upkeep cost. You would need a company that can compete with Alphabet to be able to do that. I'll give you three guesses to the chances of that happening, and the first two don't count.

As for Bob's career, I think he's pretty safe as long as he keeps marching to the overall tune and doesn't become such a sped that he attacks people on "his" side. I think the biggest wrench that could be thrown into the works is loosing his patreon. All we need is that recession to make Trump look bad and the filthy, ignorant middle America looses their jobs and now cannot afford to pay $25 to watch Endgame 2.5 or give Bobbyboi his gibs. I cannot imagine he gets enough money to survive on from The Escapist. I'ma do a Great Carnak impression and say:

"Twitter sperging, getting fired AGAIN from The Escapist, more sperging to the point of making actual threats, actual loss of foot, full radio silence with sightings more like spotting an angry manchild Bigfoot as Bob disappears into Myth and legend only to be remembered by a bunch of speds on a harassment blog"
*opens card*
What happens when Bob Chipman gets kicked off of hipster welfare?

Wasn’t both pacific rim films financial failures? I haven’t seen the “big impact “ that Pacific rim left in its wake.

The first one completely flopped here in the states and was only saved by dem sweet, sweet Chinese dollars. That's the original Yang bucks. Nobody saw the second one. Never mind pesky things like mOnEy or SuCCesS it is incredibly influential and important DAMMIT!

The Netflix version doesn’t even have Fly Me To The Moon. What the fuck is that shit?

Apparently America is the only country that got short changed on Fry Me To the Moon. Why? Best guess we seem to have is that Netflix wanted to save, like, a thousand bucks or something on paying royalties. It's been quite exquisite mining the salt from people about NGE though I will say some of their complaints have some weight to them. Netflix has succeeded in screwing the pooch...whelp...there's a phrase I just realized I can't use anymore ... in ways that I couldn't even have fathomed. Hats off to you Netflix.

 

[Flexo]

This makes a lot of sense, but I don't think that you have to go so far as adding bio-luminescent African Americans into the equation to see Youtube surviving while making a negative profit. Youtube is owned by Google and they will keep pumping money into that beast, becuase it allows them to have a greater control of information. Google gets loads of money from other, profitable ventures, so they can get away with this.

Youtube is in a no loss position. It cannot fail because it is not built in a way where financial success isn't even a factor. We will most likely never see a competitor due to the HUGE infrastructure and upkeep cost. You would need a company that can compete with Alphabet to be able to do that. I'll give you three guesses to the chances of that happening, and the first two don't count.

Yeah that's all nearly literal words from the video. (Now I know who didn't watch it.)

Yes right now youtube is being propped up. But while the numbers seem huge, things that can't go on forever, won't. That's the story of every economic bubble ever. Alphabet Inc having a few bad years, or a government action against it, or something else we can't foresee right now could bring the whole thing down seemingly overnight.

But now I do like the idea of Bob being one of those liberals caught in the cross-fire. He probably avoided it this time because not enough people know about him.

 

[Mola Ram]

But now I do like the idea of Bob being one of those liberals caught in the cross-fire. He probably avoided it this time because not enough people know about him.

That might be his fate in perpetuity. I could easily see Bob churning out videos for years (and burping up malignant nonsense on his Twitter feed basically forever) simply because outside of this thread no one really gives a shit about him or anything he says. The Diabetic Reaper whets his scythe, but that's it.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

outside of this thread no one really gives a shit about him or anything he says

What really surprises me is that Bob knows this, yet he doesn't feel the soul crushing and abhorrent realization that he is more irrelevant than the average person. Is he really that high in his own ego or he just doesn't give a fuck about anything?

Also, like Flexo said, anything can have an abrupt end because in the far future you never fucking know what might happen. Alphabet might tank in a few years, goverment action or even a stink in this economic war between the US and China (remember China wants all big tech companies tamed). Still, Youtube is a very useful tool for anyone who wants to push a narrative consistently today and if it doesn't die, someone else will pick it up and keep using it.

 

[Mola Ram]

What really surprises me is that Bob knows this, yet he doesn't feel the soul crushing and abhorrent realization that he is more irrelevant than the average person. Is he really that high in his own ego or he just doesn't give a fuck about anything?

I think you can chalk it up to two things: 1) he used to be a Z-list celebrity on YouTube and The Escapist, and there are still lingering fans. 2) Twitter, Twitter, Twitter. He gets regular engagement on Twitter, and like most Twitterati thoroughly confuses it with the real world. You won't ever convince him Twitter is bullshit.

 

[Flexo]

I think you can chalk it up to two things: 1) he used to be a Z-list celebrity on YouTube and The Escapist, and there are still lingering fans. 2) Twitter, Twitter, Twitter. He gets regular engagement on Twitter, and like most Twitterati thoroughly confuses it with the real world. You won't ever convince him Twitter is bullshit.

If I can quote a friend: "there are 7 BILLION people in the world today. Humanity's Dunbar number is around 200. With social media connections, it's super easy to find 1000 people doing ANYTHING you want. [edit: like be fans of Bob] That 1k seems like a huge movement to our little monkey brains, but it's only a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1% of total humanity."

For an example, we looked at the Christian petition against Good Omens. A petition with... 20,000 signatures. Out of a world population of 2.2 bil Christians that's 0.000009%.

I'd be willing to bet Bob's Dunbar number is even smaller.

 

[Mola Ram]

If I can quote a friend: "there are 7 BILLION people in the world today. Humanity's Dunbar number is around 200. With social media connections, it's super easy to find 1000 people doing ANYTHING you want. [edit: like be fans of Bob] That 1k seems like a huge movement to our little monkey brains, but it's only a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1% of total humanity."

For an example, we looked at the Christian petition against Good Omens. A petition with... 20,000 signatures. Out of a world population of 2.2 bil Christians that's 0.000009%.

I'd be willing to bet Bob's Dunbar number is even smaller.

Even I, who do nothing on Twitter but make dumb jokes and shill my business, have over 1000 followers. It's not hard.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

Bob is upset over the Oregon GOP making a joke on their Twitter page.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Nice to see that Bob and his fellow travelers are descending deeper into psychosis.

 

[DarkEmoMario64]

Why would anyone be blatant about this? Deplatforming is just going to set a precedent for people to do that same shit on you! Like remember what happened when this got to James Gunn (despite him coming back it shows that these tactics can be used against you).

Actually I will give it to him that at least he is honest about his stance on freedom of expression. It's the same thing as with Richard Spencer. I disagree with his anti free speech stance but at least he is blatant about it instead of pulling stupid shit like ''Group X is vulnerable or threatened so you can't say anything bad about them'' and being a moral coward.

 

[LordBallzack]

Real talk fam: I'm of the opinion that NGE is over hyped, beautiful looking garbage with some nice set pieces. It was made by a bright guy, Hideaki Anno, who went cuckoo bonkers during the development of NGE, partially because of reeeeing weebs who were angry at him for what he did in their beloved animu. It was so bad that he included irl shots of the vandalism of his studio in the last movie. If I remember correctly, and it's super hard to find it now with the Netflix release out now, the weebs were angry because he ruined this awesome, deep show that was gushing with artistic subtext and symbolism. IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT DAMMIT! The kicker? All that Christianity and Bible stuff in the show was in there because Hideaki thought it looked/sounded cool. Nothing more. Nothing less. If you'll follow me, it's like Dark Souls. Dark Souls was based on it's director reading western fantasy novels and not understanding most of it. Hideaki isn't Christian, he just kinda knows about it. The two took elements from a different culture that they sorta, kinda comprehended and made an interesting work of art that's only as deep as a weeaboo sped wishes it too be.



Now that NGE is back in the public eye, we get to suffer through hot take after hot take about a project that made it's director start to despise it's fan base. At least with Bob we can all laugh at him together.

I think you're letting your dislike of the show get the better of you. Anno did say that some of the religious imagery was for show, but not all of it. End of Eva included both hate mail and fanmail. The whole series is basically about accepting life the good and the bad and learning to love yourself. It was never meant to be 2deep4u as some idiots claim though.
Also, Bob has clearly never seen literally any Gundam I'm guessing.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

I think you're letting your dislike of the show get the better of you. Anno did say that some of the religious imagery was for show, but not all of it. End of Eva included both hate mail and fanmail. The whole series is basically about accepting life the good and the bad and learnig to love yourself. It was never meant to be 2deep4u as some idiots claim though.
Also, Bob has clearly never seen literally any Gundam I'm guessing.

Why watch something when you can read about it on Wikipedia, it’s the same thing. There’s no thought curation/control on Wikipedia. Nope, nada it’s completely neutral.

 

[Poiseon]

I think we should change the thread poll. It's been the same for a while now and it isn't relevent anymore.

What will Bob do when Trump gets re-elected? I know it's not locked in that he will be, but odds are he'll wipe the floor with all the other candidates just like he did in 2016. How will Bob Eugenics Chipman respond to such an obvious Nazi bid to stay in power? I'm really curious what everyone thinks he'll do. Should be extremely entertaining at the very least.

 

[Altera the Hun]

doing what he always does: making shitty twitter posts

 

[saralovesjuicyfruit]

I think we should change the thread poll. It's been the same for a while now and it isn't relevent anymore.

What will Bob do when Trump gets re-elected? I know it's not locked in that he will be, but odds are he'll wipe the floor with all the other candidates just like he did in 2016. How will Bob Eugenics Chipman respond to such an obvious Nazi bid to stay in power? I'm really curious what everyone thinks he'll do. Should be extremely entertaining at the very least.

He's going to keep doing what he's always done: deluding himself into believing that everyone who voted differently from him is some obsolete backwoods rural retard keeping him from the SUPERIOR FUTURE that he EARNED

 

[Cleric of Autism]

Bob is upset over the Oregon GOP making a joke on their Twitter page.
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Of course they'll say that you should just learn a new skill and find a different career, but as soon as they're told to learn to code they fucking lose it

 

[BubbleButt]

>Trail of Tears 2.0

Ah, Bob? The Indians didn’t walk the Trail of Tears because they thought free money and health care were waiting for them on the reservations.

The Trail of Tears is hands down one of the most awful things ever perpetrated by the government of the United States. Nothing on this planet, not even the goddamn Shoah, has ruined an entire group of people so completely like that fucking mess did. Native Americans have not recovered from that march and likely never will.

To throw the name around so glibly is sincerely the most revolting thing Bob has ever done.

 

[thismanlies]

Bob is upset over the Oregon GOP making a joke on their Twitter page.
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I want my political opposition classified as a terrorist organization

Every time people like him say shit like this, a moderate cautiously backs away.