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I could see it get praised if and when the media realize that they have fucked up HUGE and need to dial back their bullshit hate mongering for the sake of getting moderate and normies on their side in time for the election.
(For those too young; Jewell got falsely accused of being a bomber but the real villain turned out to be Eric Rudolph; a white supremacist/anti-abortion zealot who besides bombing the Olympics in Atlanta, killed multiple abortion clinic doctors).
They could use the film as a call to arms to tell the lunatic left to stop terrorizing and threatening normies, pointing out what happened to Jewell and how it lets the really bad people get away with their crimes by fixating the hate mob onto actual innocent people like Jewell
As for Joker.....
One theme of Joker seems to be to mimic Occupy Wallstreet which is insane given that the film is set in the 1980s which was a completely different environment where Occupy Wall-Street could never happen given anti-communinist sentiment at the time (the Cold War had been heated up with the Afghanistan invasion by Russia and Reagan's election).
Also, the idea of Joker being a symbol for the masses, without even knowing it and the implications that Joker would actually lean into it as opposed to immediately trying to off the protesters for copyright infringement or finding a way to weaponize them against Batman. At which point.... why even use Joker since "Batman villain using the mindless sheep that is the masses against the institutes of Gotham" is Penguin's bread and butt/stock plotline, as far as Penguin being the character who Batman writers use for such plotlines (as far as Penguin using populist anger to get elected Mayor).
Honestly, to me it felt like this weird mix of Taxi Driver and No Country for Old Men until the end of the second act or so, where the thing just hits the ground running and didn't let up until the end. I could be entirely wrong, but to me it felt like the whole message of the movie was that the society of the setting was, owing to its own decadence, engineering the very things that would seek to endanger it - a cautionary tale that by ignoring the problems around them, they were guaranteeing that instead of a more rational option winning out, the craziest fucker in the room was going to grab the ball and run with it.
I don't think it's a coincidence that as a set-piece, it seemed to be set in the 80s, and Gotham was very clearly based on NYC. NYC during the 80s was in the middle of the shithole period, as any resident of this state at the time could tell you, when crime was rampant and the government repeatedly failed in its duties. The whole place feels just as unclean and broken as NYC did back then, and whoever clearly did a lot of work on set design and referencing events from the 1980s.
Small wonder Bob hates it. It's a complete repudiation of his entire ethos.