Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

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Jesus Christ.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I don't blame the guy for thinking Bob was in a hospital gown - Bob literally looks like he just had a stroke in that picture.

Like Bob would watch much less appreciate the Narnia movies or the books themselves. I mean, Lewis was one of those religious obsoletes, plus none of his stories had giant monsters or robots punching buildings over while the characters threw smart-alecky quips at each other. Clearly an inferior form of entertainment!

Bob's of the age where the Narnia books were still popular in school, plus when the BBC 80s live action adaptation of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe came out and being shown in elementary schools across the nation.

My guess is that Bob's anti-fantasy genre bias caused him to shun it the same way he shunned LOTR.

 

[Rei is shit]

Honestly, the utterly delusional notion of people bullying Bobert The Stupid because they are "Intimidated by his intelligence" is one of the most unintentionally HILARIOUS things to be shat from the infinite void between Bobert's ears. He is clearly incapable of distinguishing reality from his fantasies of being somebody who matters.

All of his videos have his voice speed up, so just play them back at 75% speed to get an idea of what he sounds like irl. It is easy to understand what people are 'intimidated' by.

 

[Flexo]

I don't think Kirby ever meant the New Gods to be entirely separate from the larger DC Universe either. Darkseid and other New Gods were introduced in Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen (written by Kirby at the time). Kirby always had a vague notion that he would end it with Darkseid dying in a final battle with Orion, but nothing was ever really set in stone on how to develop to that point, or how it would go down. Eventually other authors wrote an ending where this happened in Adventure Comics 460, an anthology comic. This being comics, he was revived a couple of years later for a JLA story in 1980. I think the overall transfer of Darkseid as a Superman/ Justice League villain has to do more with the New Gods comics never really catching on. Other writers and artists occasionally wanted to use the characters, so they would put them in anthologies or a story arc.

The DC Super Powers toys tied in to the Superfriends 84 revival, wherein Darkseid really really wanted to fuck Wonder Woman. Kirby himself actually did the art and some of the plotting for the Super Powers tie in mini series comics, which feature the League fighting Darkseid.

Disagreeing with you on the first part.

Kirby absolutely meant for the New Gods to be their own thing. But he had trouble getting the comic for it off the ground. So he ended up "piggybacking" his idea on Jimmy.

Or sort of.

https://www.comicbasics.com/jack-kirby-and-the-incredible-history-of-the-new-gods/

This is when we need our "partial disagree" button.

 

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im glad that bobbo retardo doesnt talk aboout lotr. it would probably be his usual brain diarrea about white man bad, and thirsty women and lesbiazns wankfests

 

[Mola Ram]

im glad that bobbo retardo doesnt talk aboout lotr. it would probably be his usual brain diarrea about white man bad, and thirsty women and lesbiazns wankfests

Yeah. And from what I remember, Bob is on the record as not only enjoying Lord of the Rings, but threatening considering doing a "Really That Good." If it ever comes to pass, that may be the final straw for ol' Mola.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

im glad that bobbo retardo doesnt talk aboout lotr. it would probably be his usual brain diarrea about white man bad, and thirsty women and lesbiazns wankfests

Here's you super authentic MovieBlob hot-take: Orcs are actually the good guys and are oppressed and they should have just flown to Mordor. That'll be $45.

 

[blablabla]

Yeah. And from what I remember, Bob is on the record as not only enjoying Lord of the Rings, but threatening considering doing a "Really That Good." If it ever comes to pass, that may be the final straw for ol' Mola.

the last thing that lotr needed: the validation of film boebert

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

LOTR is too old school and "loved by the wrong people" for Bob to ever associate with. Which is ironic, as I can truly see Bob being the biggest cheerleader around for the upcoming Amazon LOTR series, which is gearing up to be pretty much be an Irreversible-style rape of the LOTR franchise, to the point that they drove off the Tolkien estate people that they were forced to hire on to keep them from voiding the terms of the licensing for their show due to the showrunners and Amazon doing their damnest to rape the franchise.

(for those not aware; the Tolkien estate had the foresight to put into their contract with Amazon a ton of clauses to minimize the rape of the LOTR lore and franchise:

They couldn't use ANY named characters from the franchise, had to set it during a period in the LOTR timeline that was completely blank slate and far from the events Tolkein wrote, couldn't genderswap or raceswap any existing characters, and anything that Amazon's writers wrote COULD NOT impact or alter or change context to ANY of Tolkien's storylines or characters. And they forced Amazon to hire a Tolkien estate rep who's job it was to watch the production team like a hawk and tell them to stop/abandon ANYTHING that would void the terms of the licensing contract Amazon signed for the show. So that if the project was looking to be a franchise harming wokefest, that Tolkien could kill the project before it made it to the public, along with preventing Amazon from suing them by claiming they were warned by Tolkein's estate for voiding the terms of the deal before they hit the killswitch on their deal with Amazon.

The Tolkien estate guy found that Amazon and their woke anti-life producers never intended to honor the terms of the deal regarding the above mentioned restrictions and were actively and aggressively trying to defy them, as much as humanly possible to the point of having their own lawyers looking for loopholes/ways to skirt the restrictions to the furthest they could without outright voiding shit. The estate guy eventually ragequit because Amazon and the producers basically dared him to push the killswitch button and production is currently on hiatus as Covid delayed shit combined with Amazon ordering the first two episodes filmed so they can see what they've got (and how bad it is/if Tolkien's estate will not pull the killswitch button on it) before continuing and making the necessary retools if it turns out that they have a huge flop on their hands)

I'm sure if the Amazon remake flops/is cockblocked by the Tolkien estate, Bob will begin simping for it. "Oh, Amazon tried to improve LOTR, but those filthy obsoletes just had to stand in the way of lesbian elves progress!"

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

LOTR is too old school and "loved by the wrong people" for Bob to ever associate with. Which is ironic, as I can truly see Bob being the biggest cheerleader around for the upcoming Amazon LOTR series, which is gearing up to be pretty much be an Irreversible-style rape of the LOTR franchise, to the point that they drove off the Tolkien estate people that they were forced to hire on to keep them from voiding the terms of the licensing for their show due to the showrunners and Amazon doing their damnest to rape the franchise.

(for those not aware; the Tolkien estate had the foresight to put into their contract with Amazon a ton of clauses to minimize the rape of the LOTR lore and franchise:

They couldn't use ANY named characters from the franchise, had to set it during a period in the LOTR timeline that was completely blank slate and far from the events Tolkein wrote, couldn't genderswap or raceswap any existing characters, and anything that Amazon's writers wrote COULD NOT impact or alter or change context to ANY of Tolkien's storylines or characters. And they forced Amazon to hire a Tolkien estate rep who's job it was to watch the production team like a hawk and tell them to stop/abandon ANYTHING that would void the terms of the licensing contract Amazon signed for the show. So that if the project was looking to be a franchise harming wokefest, that Tolkien could kill the project before it made it to the public, along with preventing Amazon from suing them by claiming they were warned by Tolkein's estate for voiding the terms of the deal before they hit the killswitch on their deal with Amazon.

The Tolkien estate guy found that Amazon and their woke anti-life producers never intended to honor the terms of the deal regarding the above mentioned restrictions and were actively and aggressively trying to defy them, as much as humanly possible to the point of having their own lawyers looking for loopholes/ways to skirt the restrictions to the furthest they could without outright voiding shit. The estate guy eventually ragequit because Amazon and the producers basically dared him to push the killswitch button and production is currently on hiatus as Covid delayed shit combined with Amazon ordering the first two episodes filmed so they can see what they've got (and how bad it is/if Tolkien's estate will not pull the killswitch button on it) before continuing and making the necessary retools if it turns out that they have a huge flop on their hands)

As far as I know, Amazon even went so far as to hire some kind of "intimacy expert" because they planned on putting softcore porn into the series. This is laughable, since Tolkien portrayed Elves as monogamous to the point where they were incapable of adultery, and their marriages were sealed the first time they had sex. The human characters aren't bound by such rules, so if there's going to be any GoT- style rutting going on, it's going to involve men (and possibly) dwarves. So, no hot elf sex unless it's blessed by Eru and within the bounds of matrimony. It's a silly idea to try and turn LOTR into the next Game of Thrones, even out of spite against those dang, dirty Christians. There were plenty of other fantasy series they could have used. Heck, even the Old Testament Bible would have made for a better GoT style series, because it's crammed full of adultery and murder, especially when Israel starts having kings.

 

[KillEmAll1989]

The Amazon LOTR show has literally 0 chance of being anything other than a total abortion. I truly hope it never actually airs.

 

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GOT ended as a total joke and the fat fuck will never finish his shitty books. At this point you have to be bob chipman level retard to try to chase the GOT path.

 

[Quixotic Man]

Disagreeing with you on the first part.

Kirby absolutely meant for the New Gods to be their own thing. But he had trouble getting the comic for it off the ground. So he ended up "piggybacking" his idea on Jimmy.

Or sort of.

https://www.comicbasics.com/jack-kirby-and-the-incredible-history-of-the-new-gods/

This is when we need our "partial disagree" button.

Kirby really didn't have trouble getting it off the ground at DC. He was brought over from Marvel after negotiating that his first few comics would let him have a huge amount of creative freedom. He chose to take over Jimmy once he started as it was their lowest selling book at the time and didn't have anyone permanently assigned to it. Kirby was one of the highest paid people in the industry at the time. If he wanted to negotiate himself in to writing and start introducing the Fourth World characters in a bigger comic, he could have. Superman was also featured in the first issue of Forever People, the comic where a group of hippy New Gods go on a road trip.

Kirby also always meant to tie the New Gods in to a bigger mythos and be a part of a larger Universe, though it wasn't necessarily DC. The New Gods origin story is a very much the same event as the vision of Ragnarok Kirby wrote in Marvel's Thor. If Kirby had more creative control at Marvel, and wasn't super pissed at Stan Lee, he probably would have introduced the New Gods as a kind of hybrid Thor storyline/sequel at Marvel.

 

[Rekkington]

God I remember that Steven Universe fanart bullshit. She made a character slightly less black, the sentence was death and they were already dancing on her fucking grave.

I don't give a shit about fandumbs, but I give an immense shit about bullying like that.

And as far as Suicide Squad goes, yeah Starro doesn't work. In fantasy land where I got this project instead of Gunn, I'd have taken inspiration from something like John Wick or Ant-Man if I needed to be closer to capeshit. A heist movie would work for SS, maybe they need to get something for the government that the US can't be seen getting. Or just a ton of action as they head out to assassinate some sort of warlord. You know, something you can still have fun with but not something that instantly shatters suspension of disbelief.

Yeah but that sounds like literally any heist movie then.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

He chose to take over Jimmy once he started as it was their lowest selling book at the time and didn't have anyone permanently assigned to it.

As far as my recollection goes, Kirby expressly chose Jimmy Olsen because he didn't want to take someone else's job away. Jack Kirby's compassion for his fellow artists was one of my favorite qualities about him. It probably stems from the fact that the studio he started with Joe Simon in the fifties went belly up and forced them fire the artists they hired--among them was Steve Ditko.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Kirby really didn't have trouble getting it off the ground at DC. He was brought over from Marvel after negotiating that his first few comics would let him have a huge amount of creative freedom. He chose to take over Jimmy once he started as it was their lowest selling book at the time and didn't have anyone permanently assigned to it. Kirby was one of the highest paid people in the industry at the time. If he wanted to negotiate himself in to writing and start introducing the Fourth World characters in a bigger comic, he could have. Superman was also featured in the first issue of Forever People, the comic where a group of hippy New Gods go on a road trip.

Kirby also always meant to tie the New Gods in to a bigger mythos and be a part of a larger Universe, though it wasn't necessarily DC. The New Gods origin story is a very much the same event as the vision of Ragnarok Kirby wrote in Marvel's Thor. If Kirby had more creative control at Marvel, and wasn't super pissed at Stan Lee, he probably would have introduced the New Gods as a kind of hybrid Thor storyline/sequel at Marvel.

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Yeah, you can pretty easily see the New Gods as starting in Thor and some of the cosmic stuff happening at the same time in Fantastic Four. And then the Eternals are basically the next chapter of the Forever People. You can go further back with Kirby too and say the Fantastic Four are basically the next chapter of Challengers of the Unknown. There's a pretty clear larger Kirby arc there if you take the time to look into it. And it's not like the guy was hiding it, it was just when he had to jump from each company, he'd then pick up sorta where he left off.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

LOTR is too old school and "loved by the wrong people" for Bob to ever associate with. Which is ironic, as I can truly see Bob being the biggest cheerleader around for the upcoming Amazon LOTR series, which is gearing up to be pretty much be an Irreversible-style rape of the LOTR franchise, to the point that they drove off the Tolkien estate people that they were forced to hire on to keep them from voiding the terms of the licensing for their show due to the showrunners and Amazon doing their damnest to rape the franchise.

(for those not aware; the Tolkien estate had the foresight to put into their contract with Amazon a ton of clauses to minimize the rape of the LOTR lore and franchise:

They couldn't use ANY named characters from the franchise, had to set it during a period in the LOTR timeline that was completely blank slate and far from the events Tolkein wrote, couldn't genderswap or raceswap any existing characters, and anything that Amazon's writers wrote COULD NOT impact or alter or change context to ANY of Tolkien's storylines or characters. And they forced Amazon to hire a Tolkien estate rep who's job it was to watch the production team like a hawk and tell them to stop/abandon ANYTHING that would void the terms of the licensing contract Amazon signed for the show. So that if the project was looking to be a franchise harming wokefest, that Tolkien could kill the project before it made it to the public, along with preventing Amazon from suing them by claiming they were warned by Tolkein's estate for voiding the terms of the deal before they hit the killswitch on their deal with Amazon.

The Tolkien estate guy found that Amazon and their woke anti-life producers never intended to honor the terms of the deal regarding the above mentioned restrictions and were actively and aggressively trying to defy them, as much as humanly possible to the point of having their own lawyers looking for loopholes/ways to skirt the restrictions to the furthest they could without outright voiding shit. The estate guy eventually ragequit because Amazon and the producers basically dared him to push the killswitch button and production is currently on hiatus as Covid delayed shit combined with Amazon ordering the first two episodes filmed so they can see what they've got (and how bad it is/if Tolkien's estate will not pull the killswitch button on it) before continuing and making the necessary retools if it turns out that they have a huge flop on their hands)

Wait, doesn’t Warner Bros own the film/TV rights still? Because I assume that would be on HBO Max instead of Amazon.

 

[make_it_so]

Wait, doesn’t Warner Bros own the film/TV rights still? Because I assume that would be on HBO Max instead of Amazon.

I think because it's separate from the films, plus the deal was signed before HBO Max was a thing.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

I think because it's separate from the films, plus the deal was signed before HBO Max was a thing.

I am confused because the LOTR rights situation is complicated as fuck.

IIRC (probably not), I know Jackson had to get the license from Saul Zaentz and possibly distribution rights from MGM (whom had the rights when they merged with United Artists - who distributed the two animated films) and initially took it to Miramax, which was owned by Disney at the time. It was initially planned to be one single movie before Jackson told Harvey Weinstein and Miramax/Disney to fuck off and went over to New Line. It was New Line who told Jackson he should make three films and we all know how that went. Of course, New Line merged into Warner Bros. in 2008 after The Golden Compass flopped hard, but apparently WB got into a shitshow legal dispute over the Tolkien Estate recently, so that might explain the Amazon deal

But not to steer of topic, is Bob still planning a potential Really That Good on LOTR soon? I’m curiously frightened at the possibility of making hot takes on Sauron and the orcs being used as political allegories.

 

[Wulfpack Legend]

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