Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[TowinKarz]

If consciousness depends on quantum states of the molecules of the brain, and transferring the quantum state will necessarily destroy the original one, although there are a minority of theorists who think that true quantum duplication is possible,

Ghost in the Shell had the most realistic (IMHO) way to address this issue - keep the brain, keep it alive, and just quickly move it from meat to robot body like quickly running a dolphin from tank to tank. The whole thorny "what IS consciousness and can even the best future quantum computer copy it, upload it and then download it with no errors?" question can be end-run by reducing the "robobrain" concept to an interface issue with a regular working brain, not a mastery of the brain's programming itself to the point you can copy/paste it. A much more believable issue to solve since we know the brain can output electrical pulses, it's not an unreasonable suspension of disbelief to posit medical science could someday harness/amplify those to operate a cybernetic prosthesis.

If we accept that as possible, well, bam, you're effectively immortal unless directly slain or you live long enough to finally develop a brain issue.... which everyone will probably succumb to eventually as that's the only organic part left and no complex organic tissue lives forever, eventually a misfolded protein or cancerous cell that doesn't self-destruct on time will get you. But without having to worry about the other 90% of a body failing you/giving you cancer/whatnot.....I could easily see average human life doubling, or tripling, and with a synthetic body, you get full enjoyment out of ALL that time, not just the first 50 years....

 

[Compositesludge]

Ghost in the Shell had the most realistic (IMHO) way to address this issue - keep the brain, keep it alive, and just quickly move it from meat to robot body like quickly running a dolphin from tank to tank. The whole "what IS consciousness and can even the best future quantum computer copy it, upload it and then download it with no errors?" can be end-run by reducing the "robobrain" concept to an interface issue not a mastery of the programming itself. Much more believable.

Just take the whole brain and bam, effectively immortal unless directly slain or you develop a brain issue.... which everyone will probably succumb to as that's the only organic part left, but without having to worry about the other 90% failing you/giving you cancer/whatnot.....I could easily see human life doubling, or tripling, and with a synthetic body, you get full enjoyment out of ALL that time, not just the first 50 years....

Fifty years? You're optimistic, I like it! I figure that I'm going to become bedridden and senile by the time thirty rolls around.

 

[Tronathon242]

Why stop there? Just imagine an army of Robobs all dressed in their finest Mario costumes, wiping out all the middle American mayo-ghouls before replacing them with yet more Bobs. The complete destruction of everything outside of the coasts replacing it with nothing but endless movie theaters, barcades, and McDonalds as far as the eye can see.

Makes Airstrip One seem like a resort in paradise.

John Carter was great... and you know whats awful?

Disney chose to largely let it flounder without much marketing and a bad release date because they were already making plans to buy Lucasfilm.

Why make an original scifi franchise when you can make Star Wars movies? Those are liscence to print money, Disney will be making billions off yearly Star Wars movies for years. What, like they'll wreck everything barely halfway through a new trilogy they just made up on the fly?

(Mr Plinkett voice.) OH.

The thing that infuriates me is not that they didn't make a plan, it's the fact thet they knew they didn't have to do that. There are enough consoomerists out there in the world that will propel any mainline film to a high box office gross because they are unthinkingly loyal to the series no matter how bad it is. TLJ was a legitimate slap in the face made by a man who didn't love or even like Star Wars and just wanted to make a film that was divisive and "subversive." It basically lost half of the audience if we go by the raw numbers, but that half that stayed on, like Bobert, are the kind that bought porg dolls in bulk and give it positive reviews online with gigantic, soy faced smiles in front of the poster.

 

[Donuteater]

Ghost in the Shell had the most realistic (IMHO) way to address this issue - keep the brain, keep it alive, and just quickly move it from meat to robot body like quickly running a dolphin from tank to tank. The whole "what IS consciousness and can even the best future quantum computer copy it, upload it and then download it with no errors?" can be end-run by reducing the "robobrain" concept to an interface issue not a mastery of the programming itself. Much more believable.

Just take the whole brain, use it as the CPU for the robobody, and bam, effectively immortal unless directly slain or you develop a brain issue.... which everyone will probably succumb to as that's the only organic part left, but without having to worry about the other 90% failing you/giving you cancer/whatnot.....I could easily see human life doubling, or tripling, and with a synthetic body, you get full enjoyment out of ALL that time, not just the first 50 years....

I remember reading some shit sci-fi where this was happening, but then the brain was slowly replaced by an artificial one, cell by cell.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Not having seen the movie because lolMCU, all I really have to work with is Drinker's review because I haven't watched anyone else's (but I'm pretty sure other reviewers I follow will give similar takes):

I do find it hilarious how Bob's simping for this movie when by all but the most dickriding accounts, it's fairly mediocre even by Marvel standards. The plot is threadbare and nonsensical, the tone is all over the place because we can't actually have things get too serious, and the characters are one-dimensional, a literal joke, or actually pretty fucked up yet we're supposed to root for them anyway. And the "twist" that Taskmaster is actually the bad guy's daughter is so obvious in retrospect that I'm surprised I didn't guess it before, after all the other examples of this same exact trope of "imposing masked character is actually a girl" in recent years.

And when it specifically comes to these two characters, it sounds like emotional manipulation like only Marvel can pull off. Red Guardian is the comic relief, which was pretty obvious from the trailers, but apparently he doesn't even do much more than that, and it doesn't help that said "jokes" end up screwing up the tone. As Drinker put it, "Isn't it funny how the only two male characters in this film are either portrayed as weak and pathetic or dumb and comical? Just something to think about." And Melina is an evil character complicit in the bad guy's crimes for decades, literally torturing animals to come up with the shit that he uses to keep the Black Widows under his control, but apparently everyone just lets her off the hook in the end because she's really sorry I guess. When you consider that one of the writers from WandaVision worked on this too, that at least explains the dubious morality better.

Bob: Disney isn't going to hire you no matter how much praise you heap on their turds. You're an embarrassment.

When I heard black widow "feels" like a bourne movie, I expected some slow burn political thriller with action that hit's just right.

What we got was a Marvel movie without super powers.

I geneuinely thought that they might scale it all down, and have it as a story of Black Widow going into a nation to assassinate a single target where it goes sideways and she needs to escape or some shit. But nope. Just "need to stop bad mind control man from mind controlling who has kill girls."

There was a little girl screaming through the whole fucking thing when I went to see it, probably because she was so antsy because this movie is so slow, and none of the cool Avengers are in it.

There was some kid behind me, not screaming or crying, but whimpering almost the entire movie. Maybe the shang chi and ten rings will be better.

Marvel scale that is.

 

[Flexo]

So I dunno, maybe they can coast by with X-men ahead, but X-men is already a tired brand from Fox, even if you hype it up as being part of the MCU, how can you jam Mutants on a on-going story? Not to mention that the best X-men stories have nothing to do with other characters in Marvel universe, you really gonna have Missa Marvel on the middle of the Phoenix Saga or some shit?

If they really wanted to screw with everyone, the MCU should reveal that all mutants are people that Thanos had snapped away or children born from same. Hinting that the Avengers' effort brought them back wrong... *dramatic music*

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Yup. Canceled after Season 2 did even worse than Season 1.

Between that, Lovecraft Country getting canned after 1, and that Candyman remake looking to underperform, Peele may have finally pissed away all his post-Get Out goodwill.

Turns out "the real horror is rascism" is a well you can only return to so often.

I heard Lovecraft country actually is trying hard for a renewal AND I learned that the ABOMINATION Watchmen TV show is getting another season

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Ghost in the Shell had the most realistic (IMHO) way to address this issue - keep the brain, keep it alive, and just quickly move it from meat to robot body like quickly running a dolphin from tank to tank. The whole "what IS consciousness and can even the best future quantum computer copy it, upload it and then download it with no errors?" can be end-run by reducing the "robobrain" concept to an interface issue not a mastery of the programming itself. Much more believable.

Just take the whole brain, use it as the CPU for the robobody, and bam, effectively immortal unless directly slain or you develop a brain issue.... which everyone will probably succumb to as that's the only organic part left, but without having to worry about the other 90% failing you/giving you cancer/whatnot.....I could easily see human life doubling, or tripling, and with a synthetic body, you get full enjoyment out of ALL that time, not just the first 50 years....

Exact. GiTS had an excellent solution to the consciousness question.

 

[Boston Brand]

I heard Lovecraft country actually is trying hard for a renewal AND I learned that the ABOMINATION Watchmen TV show is getting another season

Both cancelled after one apparently.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

If consciousness depends on quantum states of the molecules of the brain, and transferring the quantum state will necessarily destroy the original one, although there are a minority of theorists who think that true quantum duplication is possible,

Spoiler: for the movie, The Prestige:

The Prestige is a movie about a 19th Century magician who gets Nikola Tesla to create a machine that generates quantum duplicates of whatever objects (living or not living) are placed within it. The duplicate is materialized a distance away from the machine while the "original" remains within the generating device itself. The magician uses the machine to perform a trick where he fools an audience into thinking that he has been teleported instantly across a theater. But how would the audience be fooled if two versions of the magician now exist? Simple, the "original" version of the magician (the one in the machine) is dropped through a trap door and into a vat of water where he drowns. The "teleported" copy of the magician continues on as if he were the original while the now dead original is smuggled out of the theater in a wooden crate and stored in a warehouse.

The magician believes (or has fooled himself into believing) that his original consciousness has a 50 percent chance of either remaining in the device or getting transferred to the "teleported" copy. The thing is, there's no real way to tell if any consciousness transferrence is taking place, since, to the "teleported" copy it would seem as though he WAS the original standing on the stage seconds earlier. And the first time the magician tested the device, the version of him that remained in the machine shot and killed the version of him that teleported, whereas if the opposite had happened, the "teleported" copy would've believed that his consciousness had been transferred. The belief that consciousness transfer is happening may be just a way for the magician to talk himself into performing the trick over and over again, because if it were a guaranteed 100 percent death scenario every time, he might not be psychologically capable of doing the trick.

If one person can be completely copied so that two individuals with identical conscienceness' and memories exist, then both would have an equal claim to being the original. It also greatly questions the existence of the soul, since, if both copies were to die, would both then show up in the afterlife? If you were to duplicate yourself 100 times, would you wind up with 100 clones of you in the afterlife, each laying claim to being the original? There was an episode of Star Trek : TNG that featured Riker accidentally cloning himself in the teleporter, so it pretty much confirms that the destruction of the original is happening every time someone teleports, which you'd think would cause widespread panic and a moratorium on teleporting throughout the universe, but apparently it did not, because reasons.

The question for our forum is, would quantum duplication cause distress for MovieBob, or would he welcome the chance to create thousands of equal versions of himself, to spread upon the surface of the earth like some living, autistic cancer?

 

[Homer Simpson]

If they really wanted to screw with everyone, the MCU should reveal that all mutants are people that Thanos had snapped away or children born from same. Hinting that the Avengers' effort brought them back wrong... *dramatic music*

Nah, they will just do what they usually do. Not fucking mention it.

They live in a world where they have beings living amongst them that could avert every single terrorist attack or grand disaster, but choose not too.

That said, House of M could be a neat story line. I haven't read the comic books, but I love the concept to it.

 

[TowinKarz]

The question for our forum is, would quantum duplication cause distress for MovieBob, or would he welcome the chance to create thousands of equal versions of himself, to spread upon the surface of the earth like some living, autistic cancer?

There are no bad Clone Wars, only bad people to clone......


The "who is the REAL one, and does it matter if your consciousness dies when you clone?" conundrum that arises in fiction, where cloning is possible, has popped up a lot as a plot point.

I was thinking of Star Trek too, and also an episode of the short lived The Batman where a scientist makes a quantum clone of himself who locks his "creator" up and then goes rogue as a Batman super villain, copies himself over and over to create an army to take on Bats. Batman shows no hesitation in destroying the clones (being quantum constructs makes them unstable, so they dissipate if just punched too hard) apparently it doesn't count as murder even if each one has a conscious and from their perspective it IS dying.

We see it revistied most recently in Invincible with the Mauler Twins, a pair of cloned "Brothers" who replace each other with new clones when one of them inevitably gets killed by the heroes. The cloning process he/they came up with deliberately messes with their minds in a way that leaves it ambiguous who the original is and who the clone is. (and leaves them constantly sniping at each other: each mistake one makes "proves" to the other he's imperfect, and therefore, the clone).

They hint in dialogue that it "never ends well" if one knows for sure they're the clone. The implication being the clone inevitably tries to kill the original out of spite or the original sacrifices the clone at first convenience so the "original" can live on.... At this point, both have canonically died so much, "original" carries no real meaning anymore and the whole process is about preserving their ability to carry out their plans, not the life of either

Spoiler

When another character uses their cloning tech to make himself a new body to replace his original one that's been consumed by a wasting disease (that also gave him his powers), they tell him it won't be easy to have to euthanize his old self, since it'll be obvious the healthy one is the clone..... and the other the expendable sickling

 

[RainwaterDrop]

Bob... knows that he would be put first on the wall, right? I can't think of anyone better who symbolizes a leech.

Blob is such a fucktard that it surprises me that he even knows what communism is!

Indeed, exactly, he's one of those types who hold those beliefs due to their own entitlement and/or elitism. Blobby actually thinks he would be considered part of the intelectual elite in a communist regime, thus getting all the privileges that come with it.

Funny how it's always the losers like movieblob and e-whores who love this shit, the ones that would probably get massacred before the revolution was even done!

I'll give Marvel credit for successfully duping two credulous crowds of consumers with Black Widow: guys who will like a character just for being hot and sexy, but also women who love their feminist icons.
Bob is pretty much the intersection of these two groups.

The one thing I give Marvel some credit for is managing to build a (somewhat) coherent plot line between dozens of movies, some writers shit themselves at pulling this off for a single flick, other than that their movies are at best mediocre or just a plain waste of time.

Their marketing is amazing, however, as they managed to build a strong following for what is essentially the same formula, over and over again, with some blatantly obvious moments meant to sell merch and build plot hooks!

 

[Adamska]

Bob isn't a commie; he's a crayon eating retard who's so hideously stupid and thoughtless that he's pure reactionary, in the bad way.

At best you know he's a globohomo corporatist who supports a one party state with elements of a fake and gay democracy that bans the poors and normals from politics so that the enlightened thinkers can rule. But he'll weasel and try to deny he's a globohomo fascist/technocrat when confronted on it because he's too dishonest and retarded to understand his regular statements on things confirms the following:

1. Pro corporation; barring people who he has imaginary problems with like Elon Musk, he's a corporate defender, especially with entertainment.
2. Authoritarian, he wants a one party state where only those who agree with him have rights, and the others are to be segregated at best and genocided at worst. He will tard cry and screech that IT'S OUT OF CONTEXT, but I don't know how you can deny that keeping people out of the loop and without rights isn't either option.
3. Globalist; he expresses a yellow fever for no reason other than poorly remembered sci fi, and thinks the Chinamen the news tells him will give him his matrioshka brain to bing bing wahoo forever in. No borders and no nationalism are his dream.
4. Elitist: Bob routinely lets slip that he dislikes poor people; be it the catholic school kids whose folk try to keep them from the black people, to the midwestern ghouls suffering from low income and drugs. He would love for them to be an underclass, almost Dark Enlightenment style thinking.
5. Futurist: I'm going to use the art term here, because I don't think Bob hates money and wants to replace it with energy credits, plus he wants businessmen and politicians to exist if they agree with him. So instead he believes in automation and the removal of those who did what the machine now does. Ignoring that machines need technicians and in environments can fail or be massively inefficient. Note how he clapped like a retarded child endlessly over that stupid Big Dog Robot that's Boston Dynamic's white elephant since the Army said no to it.
6. Eugenics. For all Bob denies this, he still supports the notion and wants to remove those who disagree with him from the genepool and doesn't see them as human.
8. Utilitarian. Bob believes that people can be obsolete and must have a value in society to exist.
7. He believes he would not get gassed or killed by his own government, ignoring how he's a nostalgic sadfag loser with basically no marketable skills besides basic video editing and who is too fucking retarded to keep quiet and not lose his job.

But again, this is based on his toddler tantrums on twitter; Bob is too fucking retarded and smoothbrained to actually have an ideology. It's literally just "YOU NO AGREE YOU AM BAD GO DIE NOW REEE~"

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

The question for our forum is, would quantum duplication cause distress for MovieBob, or would he welcome the chance to create thousands of equal versions of himself, to spread upon the surface of the earth like some living, autistic cancer?

I don't have an answer to that but God, the image of a world solely inhabited by billions of perfect copies of Bob is terryfing, it reminds me of Horatio from Endless Space 2 with the big difference that Horatio isn't a bitter virgin with rage and he isn't ugly like Blob.

Bob isn't a commie; he's a crayon eating retard who's so hideously stupid and thoughtless that he's pure reactionary, in the bad way.

At best you know he's a globohomo corporatist who supports a one party state with elements of a fake and gay democracy that bans the poors and normals from politics so that the enlightened thinkers can rule. But he'll weasel and try to deny he's a globohomo fascist/technocrat when confronted on it because he's too dishonest and retarded to understand his regular statements on things confirms the following:

1. Pro corporation; barring people who he has imaginary problems with like Elon Musk, he's a corporate defender, especially with entertainment.
2. Authoritarian, he wants a one party state where only those who agree with him have rights, and the others are to be segregated at best and genocided at worst. He will tard cry and screech that IT'S OUT OF CONTEXT, but I don't know how you can deny that keeping people out of the loop and without rights isn't either option.
3. Globalist; he expresses a yellow fever for no reason other than poorly remembered sci fi, and thinks the Chinamen the news tells him will give him his matrioshka brain to bing bing wahoo forever in. No borders and no nationalism are his dream.
4. Elitist: Bob routinely lets slip that he dislikes poor people; be it the catholic school kids whose folk try to keep them from the black people, to the midwestern ghouls suffering from low income and drugs. He would love for them to be an underclass, almost Dark Enlightenment style thinking.
5. Futurist: I'm going to use the art term here, because I don't think Bob hates money and wants to replace it with energy credits, plus he wants businessmen and politicians to exist if they agree with him. So instead he believes in automation and the removal of those who did what the machine now does. Ignoring that machines need technicians and in environments can fail or be massively inefficient. Note how he clapped like a retarded child endlessly over that stupid Big Dog Robot that's Boston Dynamic's white elephant since the Army said no to it.
6. Eugenics. For all Bob denies this, he still supports the notion and wants to remove those who disagree with him from the genepool and doesn't see them as human.
8. Utilitarian. Bob believes that people can be obsolete and must have a value in society to exist.
7. He believes he would not get gassed or killed by his own government, ignoring how he's a nostalgic sadfag loser with basically no marketable skills besides basic video editing and who is too fucking retarded to keep quiet and not lose his job.

But again, this is based on his toddler tantrums on twitter; Bob is too fucking retarded and smoothbrained to actually have an ideology. It's literally just "YOU NO AGREE YOU AM BAD GO DIE NOW REEE~"

Bob has his own unique ideology that only he understands, I actually hope that one day he says fuck it and tries to build his own political movement, it would be quite the show.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

That said, House of M could be a neat story line. I haven't read the comic books, but I love the concept to it.

It was unfortunately not done properly in the comics so I'd be okay with a TV show exploring the concept. But I doubt the movies would do it justice.

Bob would lap it up though.

 

[Disapproving Bread]

Damn, I think Wonder Woman 1984 could have been a much better film with script revisions and more editing.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. WW84 is a perfectly good 90 minute movie about a man trying to do right by his son ruined by 61 minutes of Wonder Woman.

 

[JayHarrison]

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I should have added this to a previous post of mine, but it took me a while to think of the perfect movie title--and its most famous sound effect--that could describe Moviebob's sex life: Psycho...

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Just once I'd like him to explain why he thinks AOC would make a good president without mentioning her race, sex or age.

Before you ask, Bob, ”tits” is not a valid reason.

Bob will probably find a loophole around that statement and respond with "ass".

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Even more terrifying: Bob puts his consciousness in a robot body, but doesn't die. Now there are two (or more) Bobs, Metal-Bob and Flesh-Bob.

As if one Moviebob parasite on this host planet wasn't bad enough...

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Bob isn't a commie; he's [...] so hideously stupid and thoughtless that he's pure reactionary, in the bad way.

[...] you know he's a globohomo corporatist who supports a one party state with elements of a fake [...] democracy that bans the poors and normals from politics so that the enlightened thinkers can rule. But he'll weasel and try to deny he's a globohomo fascist/technocrat when confronted on it because he's too dishonest and retarded to understand his regular statements on things confirms the following:

1. Pro corporation; barring people who he has imaginary problems with like Elon Musk, he's a corporate defender, especially with entertainment.

Not to mention people who Bob's perpetual antipathy to those who voted for "not Hillary Clinton" in 2016.

2. Authoritarian, he wants a one party state where only those who agree with him have rights, and the others are to be segregated at best and genocided at worst. He will tard cry and screech that IT'S OUT OF CONTEXT, but I don't know how you can deny that keeping people out of the loop and without rights isn't either option.

Moviebob, 2012.02.02: "There are days when my fondest wish is that 'eugenics' hadn't been tainted by racists and nazis."

I have read that tweet multiple times. No additional context is necessary; it's its own standalone tweet.

3. Globalist; he expresses a yellow fever for no reason other than poorly remembered sci fi, and thinks the Chinamen the news tells him will give him his matrioshka brain to bing bing wahoo forever in. No borders and no nationalism are his dream.

One thing that always annoys me about people who want open borders: If entertainment-industry elitists are so generous and welcoming toward people illegally invading U.S. soil from abroad, then why is it that they don't openly invite them to bunk up in their own houses/apartments when they get here? They're all hypocrites!

4. Elitist: Bob routinely lets slip that he dislikes poor people; be it the catholic school kids whose folk try to keep them from the black people, to the midwestern ghouls suffering from low income and drugs. He would love for them to be an underclass, almost Dark Enlightenment style thinking.

Nothing to add here.

5. Futurist: I'm going to use the art term here, because I don't think Bob hates money [...] he wants businessmen and politicians to exist if they agree with him. So instead he believes in automation and the removal of those who did what the machine now does. Ignoring that machines need technicians and in environments can fail or be massively inefficient. Note how he clapped like a retarded child endlessly over that stupid Big Dog Robot that's Boston Dynamic's white elephant since the Army said no to it.

Not to mention that robots are more likely to cause environmental damage than humans are.

6. Eugenics. For all Bob denies this, he still supports the notion and wants to remove those who disagree with him from the genepool and doesn't see them as human.

See above under "Authoritarian".

7. He believes he would not get gassed or killed by his own government, ignoring how he's a nostalgic sadfag loser with basically no marketable skills besides basic video editing and who is too fucking retarded to keep quiet and not lose his job.

I said this before, and I'll say it again: Moviebob would happily live on all fours, leashed as a government slave than die standing up for, well... anything that benefits mankind.

8. Utilitarian. Bob believes that people can be obsolete and must have a value in society to exist.

Regarding Moviebob and the concept of obsolescence, I once again direct you toward the conclusion of "The Obsolete Man" from the original Twilight Zone series (jump to 46s)...

Twilight Zone creator Rod Serling: "Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. [...] Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man... that state is obsolete."

 

[Homer Simpson]

It was unfortunately not done properly in the comics so I'd be okay with a TV show exploring the concept. But I doubt the movies would do it justice.

Bob would lap it up though.

Ahhh, that's too bad. The shows haven't been anything to write home about, but they are fine for what they are. Side stories.

Although, Mandalorian ripping off Lone wolf and the cub was their best choice so far.

 

[Berrakh]

The only ways Bob’s tweets can be out of context are so few and specific he could just say what they are. “I was roleplaying”, “it was dark humor”, or “I was quoting someone else.” That’s pretty much it. Out-of-Context is in this case a weasel word. Or phrase.

another thing about Bob: I can’t think of a single unpopular opinion he has.
that might sound strange since we dunk on him for his opinions but the kernels of all those opinions are super popular among influential people. And with entertainment he sides with popularity. He created a video series about how popular things are objectively good after all.
If you never go against the grain in ways that actually matter and cause friction or relative distress you’ve never really lived.