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You missed this chunk of concentrated autism linked in that thread:
I get it, tabletop gamers aren't the most socially adept bunch, but if you show up to the table with a bunch of bright yellow cue cards instead of speaking up if something makes you uncomfortable, you deserve to be subjected to your DM's magical realm.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly are safety tools? Trigger warnings in a TTRPG? Can't the DM just choose to not include things that might offend a player? Or the player not play the campaign if it triggers them?
Why make this? Doesn't this just take all the fun out of the game? I can see something like a player including a sensitive subject like rape or genocide in their backstories, but you don't need to go into EXTREME detail for that, or y'know, just not include that in their backstory at all.
It boggles my mind that in an activity where you are encouraged to make ANY type of world you want, and DO anything you want people still need "tools" to help them play the game without feeling uncomfortable.
Emperor Julian
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The dirty secret about the safety tools is a candid 5 minute conversation before you run with is infinitly superior and you don't have any obligations to engage in emotional labour for players anyway.
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It's really not hard to find a game that has 0 creeps and sexual predators in it. You just need to do the smallest amount of gatekeeping of freaks.
These rules only exist because these people move in circles where 90% of people are predators. It's for the male feminist demographic.
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Oh, for some fucking gatekeeping. I think most of my gaming friends think of it as inherently evil, likely a holdover of the geek social fallacies, but god forbid you point out that it's the same dangerhairs causing the same problems every single time - that's bigotry. Add in that apparently we can't tell the newbies to separate fact from fiction, and you get fucking emotional messes that apparently need to be hardcore regulated for the everyone because a couple of drama queens insist their emotional bleed is everyone's problem.
I've gone through all sorts of horrific experiences in games, and it's been fine, but easily one of the worst was when an FtM troon decided to create a character that was basically a trauma dump, there to force their real life 'how horrible is this transphobic world!' agita into a fictional setting that didn't support it. And at one point our characters had a conversation, nothing more, but it was blindingly obvious that they had absolutely no separation between themselves and their character, and that pointing out the fictional world was different from the real world in ways that made their standard troon bullshit irrelevant would have not been dealt with as an in-game perspective based on in-game rules. So I had the fun of knowing that I was basically in a therapeutic conversation with someone against my will, where any attempt to stay fictional would be seen as a personal attack - and that some bad behaviour in-game was therefore uncriticisable as it would be treated as an attack on players being trans rather than characters acting horribly to other characters.
(Maybe don't whine about how everyone in a room is secretly transphobic when there's mechanics in place to literally cast a spell or use a power to find out if that's true. Especially when enough of the players are falling over themselves to be the wokest and most accepting person in the room, and that's not even including the 'male feminists' who are doing it just to be a creep but their targets are actively dismissive of the idea they're being preyed upon.)
To me, 'safety tools' are covered by a quick spiel at the start from the GM about taking a moment if you need one and that the point isn't to hurt anyone but to have fun, even if you're dealing with dark subject matter. Anything more is subject to abuse by the exact sort of piss whizzard who only wants their fetishes and bullshit in a game. Annoyingly, the same friends who think gatekeeping is inherently evil are perfectly aware that there's a definite type of person who causes the most grief for the least reward, but won't do anything about it even as, for example, every single troon they've ever played with causes problems and drives away other players. Wouldn't want to be a bigot through pattern recognition, after all, even as the horror stories mount up...
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Nothing funnier than an edgy atheist getting banned for antisemitism. But hey, good to see 4e continuing to make a comeback.
Really sick of that particular atheist talking point. "Hey, did you know God sends people to hell? Like, ordinary people who are just minding their own business and then bam! Straight to hell. How can you say he's loving when he's not 100% forgiving and permissive?"
Go read through Exodus and Judges and tell me God doesn’t exercise literally inhuman amounts of patience and restraint when dealing with Israel.
Its like calling Allah a sociopath because OMG he forces his followers to fast for inhuman amounts of time.
Go read through Exodus and Judges and tell me God doesn’t exercise literally inhuman amounts of patience and restraint when dealing with Israel.
Its like calling Allah a sociopath because OMG he forces his followers to fast for inhuman amounts of time.
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It's interesting to see growing religious tolerance in alt-leftish spheres like RPGForums, especially in regards to religions like Christianity. 10 years ago they would of agreed and said anyone who believed in religion is a dumbass. I'm happy that anti-theism being cringe is now accepted by basically everyone.
Emperor Julian
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I wouldn't applaud too much. Pretty much any meaningful dialogue about religion will die a death under these people.
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It's RPG.net. You are not allowed to believe in Bible religion, because that's bigotry, but you are also not allowed to believe that Bible religion is bad, as that is also bigotry. The only rule at RPG.net is that you can't have any sane, rational thoughts whatsoever.
It's easy to gatekeep genderspecials out of your games.
It's easy to gatekeep genderspecials out of your games.
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How long do you think until problematic rpgs are banned from discussion like ACKS? I could see them doing it to minor games like this one.
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Reminder that you could not set a game in the real world in a straightforward way, in any time, or any place, and make these retards happy.
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The real world is like a terrifying fantasy realm to these weirdoes.
Gryff09
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You can't even set a game in a place based on IRL ... so like anywhere ever.
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Not right now. They might lock the thread if people start getting hysterical. Right now they are only experiencing moderate levels of cope.
Bonus:
Germany is fully recovered from that little fiasco in the 40s and is once again baying for Slavic blood.
Bonus bonus:
Political "moderate" hilariously underestimates rpg.net's commitment to free speech.
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What do we have to do to get Elon to buy RPG.net? He could probably afford it with the change in his couch.
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Pitch it as the crew and passengers of SpaceX are going to need SOMETHING to do on the long trips... RPGs are a great low cost time waster.
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I know this has nothing to do with literally anything, but it’s worth mentioning to illustrate just how little contact they have with the real world. Weasels are not known for holding back. If anything, they’re practically vermin in their own right, having famously bottomless appetites and a brutally effective and confusing (to a prey) hunting style. It’s the reason they’re shoot on site to most farmers.