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[Flexo]

Oh let this place burn...


EDIT. Author replied.

 

[Next Task]

What I would really put money on is that the author was getting angry and enraged at Zak constantly "getting away" with his lawsuits and accusations and decided she was going to write a definitive take down of him.

. . .And then as she dived further and further into the details, she hit up against that most fearsome enemy of all RPG.net mods: reality.

It reads like that, doesn't it? There's a smattering of articles appearing where a woman tries to prove her beliefs and finds out that they're based on nothing, it's a good trend to see. The defensiveness often comes from wanting to not just be dismissed as an alt-right chud for even questioning the narrative, but I think in this example more than others she already knows that nothing she says will be enough, and that these same people will hate her just as much as they hate anyone else who shows them to be garbage people.

Now that I've read the whole thing (lolcows with threads who get mentions, and are exactly as horrific as we know them to be, include Dave Hill, Anna Kreider, and even SecretGamerGrrl listed as a generic troll, which Jake would love to hear about) I'm as surprised as the writer is about how upfront a lot of these people are with just how much they're aware their accusations are based on nothing and their behaviour is terrible. I, too, expected more in the way of them deluding themselves about their motives, and while there was certainly a fair amount of that, the number of things they just outright admitted to is startling. The only real conclusion that can be drawn is that these online RPG-types are, top-down, terrible people, and that the idpol dangerhaired nature of it all just gives them further excuses to tear others down for personal and professional gain.

As she points out, pretty much everyone is a bully and an abuser in complex patterns of temporary allegiances, and the one defining feature seems to have been that they all believe feelings are more important than reality, and one of the main reasons they hate Zak S so much is that he wouldn't let people get away with that if he could. I'm sick of the phrase, but that thing about getting him ousted from the Discord he ran and one of the first things they did was to remove the 'no lying' rule was so fucking telling.

Oh let this place burn...

Yup, all the RPGNet mods are exactly these people. Most of the userbase as well. Of course they're avoiding accountability.

 

[Wallace]

Thread has been completely erased from the forum, doesn't even show up on their posting history.
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Mods really didn't want that doc getting spread around in their backyard, I don't think I've ever seem them completely erase a thread before, at most they'd redact and edit posts they didn't like.

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"Posting on behalf of a banned user" was the official charge. Referring to Zak I assume?

"We will not be discussing this infraction further" means "we can't really defend this action without tipping our hand too much, so we're just going to refuse to discuss it at all!"

 

[AnOminous]

"We will not be discussing this infraction further" means "we can't really defend this action without tipping our hand too much, so we're just going to refuse to discuss it at all!"

It's afraid.

 

[Tealeaf]

"We will not be discussing this infraction further" means "we can't really defend this action without tipping our hand too much, so we're just going to refuse to discuss it at all!"

the playbook has never let them down after all

 

[Clanner Scum]

It would take me a bit to find but there's an article I read once about how Ibram Max Kendi read the book "bloodlands" which is about how shit Poland was treated in WW2 (by nazis then by soviets) and apparently had an existential crisis because not only was their treatment way worse than what blacks went through in America, but it was done to white people by white people.

The oppressor/victim paradigm is one of the worst memes to infect people.

Do you have a link? I tried some cursory searching but couldn't find it. There's some places I could get some wailing and gnashing of teeth if I post something like that.

 

[Reverend]

Háu, fellow injuns!

Coyote And Crow are hiring and point out that a warbonnet and predisposition to alcoholism isn't required (except for some positions where it totally is)

Will C&C become a colonized company? Only time will tell!

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They had to put the second bulletpoint or they risked being sued for discrimination.

 

[Hugbox Kommissar]

Spoiler: Guys, get in here, new schitzo rant just dropped

Looking at his posting history this seems to be a very recent change. Wonder if we'll see more of this when he gets back.

 

[Wallace]

Spoiler: Guys, get in here, new schitzo rant just dropped

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Looking at his posting history this seems to be a very recent change. Wonder if we'll see more of this when he gets back.

Long-term exposure to woke causes paranoid schizophrenia and detachment from reality. Many such cases. Sad!

 

[Kongo-Müller]

Spoiler: Guys, get in here, new schitzo rant just dropped

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Looking at his posting history this seems to be a very recent change. Wonder if we'll see more of this when he gets back.

It's only Wednesday, and this is already the most unhinged thing I have seen all week.

For once I can agree with the RPGnet mods: This guy needs help from a qualified professional.

 

[Flexo]

Do you have a link? I tried some cursory searching but couldn't find it. There's some places I could get some wailing and gnashing of teeth if I post something like that.

FOUND IT!

Sorry it took me so long. It wasn't Kendi, but Ta-Nehisi Coates I had read about. I had mixed them up and it made the search trickier. Please accept my apologies.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/22/atheism-ta-nehisi-coates-pessimism-race-relations

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/s5thR

But it is a chaotic amoral universe that also explains why Coates is committed to a deeply held view that white supremacy is built into the very DNA of this United States and therefore will not “perhaps ever” be defeated.

Coates arrived at this pessimistic view by reading European historians Tony Judt and Timothy Synder, who promote a tradition of liberal moderation opposed to the great political ideologies of the 20th century, specifically Marxism:

I don’t have any gospel of my own. [Tony Judt’s] Postwar, and the early pages of [Timothy Synder’s Bloodlands], have revealed a truth to me: I am an atheist. (I have recently realized this.) I don’t believe the arc of the universe bends towards justice. I don’t even believe in an arc. I believe in chaos. I believe powerful people who think they can make Utopia out of chaos should be watched closely. I don’t know that it all ends badly. But I think it probably does.​

Coates’s belief that white supremacy is fundamentally woven into the fabric of the United States is built on a larger metaphysical assumption that without the existence of God the entire world bends towards injustice. He points to the egregious history of racial injustice in this country, and the atrocities committed by the Nazis and Soviets, through the books of Judt and Snyder, to prove his point.

 

[The Tall Man]

What's strange is the disconnect between the moderation team who are all "he/they/xer", trigger warnings, flag emojis, and politics, and those with the developer badge who seem normal.

They don't want to do any real work but they like authority, discord mod is great for them or some kind of ethics advisor or DEI consultant.
When they stay separated it's not that bad, but these faggots often manage to gain influence over the people that do the work.
If they are able to weasel themselves into a position of influence, then they begin acting like body snatchers and start replacing humans with faggots.
Suddenly the whole project is filled with faggots that just want to make rules but don't want to do any work and everything grinds to a halt.

I think a good antidote to these faggots would be to have your public forum be free speech and actually be welcoming to bullies and edgy people.
The only thing that keeps a cry bully away is a regular bully.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

It's the standard "white people don't get treated in a racist way!" drivel that these ignorant fools rant about. Ignoring the existence of shit like "no dogs, no blacks, no Irish," innumerable shit talking about the majority of Eastern Europe in the UK and USA who are predominately white and a long list of other things.

Unsurprised that L5R is getting targeted but honestly can't care. Hilariously most of this site at this point would also say Double Cross is an offensive parody of Japan despite it being a Japanese (as in made in) rpg. Ditto Tenra Bansho Zero.

L5R RPG 5e actually started out pretty based in that its initial warning about cultural sensitivity was explicitly "don't offend anyone who might overhear you". Then the latest supplement got sensitivity readers and suddenly there's sidebars about "performing decolonization at the table" and how Rokugan is imperialist (despite the whole Rokugani colonies lore bit being removed in 5e as the insane cardgame-driven metaplot got completely reset). All this despite the game still being tied to completely nonsense place names like the Imperial capital of Otosan Uchi.

As always, the sensitivity readers are at best third generation immigrants and I'm 100% sure I know more about non-Yamato Japanese tribes than them, since I actually read one of the few extant sources that has hints about their culture.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Resetera (and other similarly moderated forums) make a lot more sense when you realize the staff are running a Paranoia LARP with themselves as the Violet/Ultraviolet controllers with Friend Computer being whatever the current retarded leftist cultural zeitgeist is.

Stay alert.
Trust no one.
Keep your laser handy.

Odd aside, the new Paranoia book has a comment on the whole race/sexuality/gender etc.

Paranoia has always been heavy on satire
(not parody, there is a big difference). It mocks
government, religion, business, capitalism,
communism and a whole lot more. It can also get
more specific in satire, such as mocking bro culture,
anti-vaxxers and egghead intellectuals. Some people
might find a sacred cow or two being satirised and
get upset. However, Paranoia’s setting does not deal
with gender, sexual preference, race or ethnicity. None
of that matters to the game’s setting, so they should
never appear at the table/screen.

Then the latest supplement got sensitivity readers and suddenly there's sidebars about "performing decolonization at the table" and how Rokugan is imperialist

Enjoy cratering L5R. You and Deadlands alike should have known better.

Also aw, they got rid of the colonies? Shame, it was amusing occasionally to see the fine lunatics of Rokugan interact with humans outside of their bubble. Sort of how I picture the average RPG.net user interacting with normal humans.

 

[Flexo]

L5R RPG 5e actually started out pretty based in that its initial warning about cultural sensitivity was explicitly "don't offend anyone who might overhear you". Then the latest supplement got sensitivity readers and suddenly there's sidebars about "performing decolonization at the table" and how Rokugan is imperialist (despite the whole Rokugani colonies lore bit being removed in 5e as the insane cardgame-driven metaplot got completely reset). All this despite the game still being tied to completely nonsense place names like the Imperial capital of Otosan Uchi.

As always, the sensitivity readers are at best third generation immigrants and I'm 100% sure I know more about non-Yamato Japanese tribes than them, since I actually read one of the few extant sources that has hints about their culture.

As an old spider clan player this makes me sad.

 

[robobobo]

So there's some kind of drama kicking up around a small RPG company named Evil Genius, some five of their employees simultaneously posted that they were leaving because of "ethical reasons" with no details or receipts of anything. The company's owner showed up on ENWorld and said that there had been debate in the company about whether to lean into AI and blockchain stuff and that they had decided against it, implying that that's why the people split but not being specific about it. That led to this gem that sums up RPG.net mods perfectly:


"Fair and reasonable"

 

[EmpGulcasa]

So there's some kind of drama kicking up around a small RPG company named Evil Genius, some five of their employees simultaneously posted that they were leaving because of "ethical reasons" with no details or receipts of anything. The company's owner showed up on ENWorld and said that there had been debate in the company about whether to lean into AI and blockchain stuff and that they had decided against it, implying that that's why the people split but not being specific about it. That led to this gem that sums up RPG.net mods perfectly:
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"Fair and reasonable"

On any other forum (except Resetera) this would be a satire post.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Odd aside, the new Paranoia book has a comment on the whole race/sexuality/gender etc.

Actually, I find that comment reasonable. Gender, sex-prefs, race, and ethnicity have NEVER played a role in the Paranoia setting (in fact, having a sexual preference was a sign you were off the Computer-mandated supplements which deactivated your sex drive). The whole game is about how you can kill off your teammates while making it look like an accident or Commie infiltrators and remaining blameless.

 

[Sexy Peach Emoji]

Actually, I find that comment reasonable. Gender, sex-prefs, race, and ethnicity have NEVER played a role in the Paranoia setting (in fact, having a sexual preference was a sign you were off the Computer-mandated supplements which deactivated your sex drive). The whole game is about how you can kill off your teammates while making it look like an accident or Commie infiltrators and remaining blameless.

See, that would be reasonable except for how much they cry about that shit being integral to everyone's core character and muh representation in everything else and how it needs to be centered in every fucking thing. That, coupled with that smarmy tone describing everything else irritates me.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Actually, I find that comment reasonable. Gender, sex-prefs, race, and ethnicity have NEVER played a role in the Paranoia setting

Agreed. That they address it in that way though is odd because they bring the topic up and tell people it's irrelevant. There's not many saying that now despite as you say it being irrelevant to the setting.