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Ah yes, Blue Rose. Oddly, a Green Ronin product, which I always thought was weird because GR also gave us Mutants and Masterminds, which I enjoyed.

But I did promise myself if I ever ran across a Blue Rose game, I was going to derail it in an homage to Old Man Henderson.

Less surprising if you read the Third Edition of Freedom City and find that the current Lady Liberty (the personification of the American spirit, a la DC's Uncle Sam mixed with Wonder Woman) is a tranny illegal immigrant.
 
Blue Rose is a good example of someone wanting to make a Romantic Fantasy game without ever having read any Romantic Fantasy.

Actual Romantic Fantasy often have pretty grim settings, you know, to give the heroine something to strive against. Deer Privileged McGoodGuy nation is not how they do it.

Right?

I actually read romantic fantasy. It's a guilty pleasure of mine, plus, well. I'm a faggot. Blue Rose is not Romantic Fantasy. It's Romantic Fantasy-esq, in that it has some of the same trappings, but it misses the actual spirit by a mile.

The single most equivalent setting to the Blue Rose setting is Mercedes Lackey's Heralds of Valdemar setting. It's like... I don't know, 30+ books probably at this point. You an see some clear analogs to a lot of the things in Lackey's works in Blue Rose. But in every respect, it's a soleless, lackluster copy - and sometimes goes against the things you need for real romantic fantasy. You need suffering and hardships for romantic fantasy. Not just external ones, either. Valdemar is not a utopia. It's better than average. That's it. Many... hell, most of the main characters actually lived pretty shitty lives in the beginning.

  • Vanyel technically had a privileged life, sure, the son of a lord, land, an inheritance coming to him, etc. But he was raised by a homophobic father, physically abused "for his own good", and more tolerated than loved or even liked. His home life was a constant source of stress for him, almost until the end. There was no "wrongthink" for his family to get punished for, nothing made it right, it was just shit.
  • Skif was a homeless orphan for most of his childhood, literally begging for food and sleeping in alleys. There was no social programs rescuing him - the bright point of his childhood was going to free breakfasts at a charity school, because it was real food. Things got so bad he had to become a thief to survive, and then all his friends were murdered by a what amounted to a corrupt merchant who just wanted to get rid of the building they were living in.
  • Talia was born and raised Holderkin, which are a sort of Muslim-Amish hybrid society of insular clans where women were treated like shit. That she was allowed to read was considered a bad thing. Holderkin are an accepted and tolerated part of Valemar society (after a certain point in the timeline), and they aren't a redemption story - that's just how they are, and how they continue to be. No magic comes in to fix that. Plenty of other people are suffering under it.
  • Lavan, like Vanyel, was ostensibly "privileged", to a lesser extent - he was the son of a moderately wealthy member of a merchant guild. But his parents neglected him, and he was sent to a school that essentially encouraged abusive bullying to keep the students in line. He was pushed to the point he collapsed from stress more than once, and ultimately to the point he (quasi-unintentionally) murdered his tormenters. And while some characters in the setting did condemn the school's behavior, it was known about before Lavan snapped, and nothing was done about it.
  • Darren actually had it comparatively easy, in that he lived in a tiny village on the border, his parents were (assumed) killed, and he was sent to live with the most looked-down-upon member of the town... And then constantly criticized because he wasn't grateful for that.
And that's not counting the most recent handful of books that I haven't read, or characters that were born outside of Valdemar proper. And it's only the ones that were victims of "systemic" sorts of problems, where it was a known problem, and just nobody bothered to do anything to fix it.

Most of those stories wouldn't work in Blue Rose, without going outside the main nation anyways, because the setting almost explicitly prohibits them for one reason or another. It's like living with the fucking Smurfs.

... Still bought the book, because the art was fucking fantastic.
 
Ah yes, Blue Rose. Oddly, a Green Ronin product, which I always thought was weird because GR also gave us Mutants and Masterminds, which I enjoyed.

But I did promise myself if I ever ran across a Blue Rose game, I was going to derail it in an homage to Old Man Henderson.
Nicole Lindroos, the owner of Green Ronin, has stirred up drama in the past. See here and here.

Now, for some fresh nonsense:
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Nicole Lindroos, the owner of Green Ronin, has stirred up drama in the past. See here and here.

Now, for some fresh nonsense:
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This guy may be the most gigantic pussy and fascist on the Internet. It's not enough for him to ban the wrongthinker, he has to deliver the smuggest, preachiest, most insufferable lecture to him, as if anyone gives a fuck about what he has to say. Literally the only way he has to inflict his stupidity on the world is against hapless victims, who he lectures over only after they're safely bound and gagged and can't reply.

After all, his viewpoints are so weak, and he is so weak personally, that he knows none of the utter nonsense he has to say could withstand scrutiny. And this fucker has the outright temerity to then talk about "freedom" and "tyranny" while doing this Orwellian shit.
 
This guy may be the most gigantic pussy and fascist on the Internet. It's not enough for him to ban the wrongthinker, he has to deliver the smuggest, preachiest, most insufferable lecture to him, as if anyone gives a fuck about what he has to say. Literally the only way he has to inflict his stupidity on the world is against hapless victims, who he lectures over only after they're safely bound and gagged and can't reply.

After all, his viewpoints are so weak, and he is so weak personally, that he knows none of the utter nonsense he has to say could withstand scrutiny. And this fucker has the outright temerity to then talk about "freedom" and "tyranny" while doing this Orwellian shit.

Let's all take a moment to appreciate the irony of someone from a self-appointed elite ruling class wielding absolute power and with no accountability giving a condescending lecture on the evils of fascism.

EDIT: And I'm pretty sure it's your side that's wielding the torches and burning down our cities. Tell me again how you're the victim here, jackass.
 
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This guy may be the most gigantic pussy and fascist on the Internet. It's not enough for him to ban the wrongthinker, he has to deliver the smuggest, preachiest, most insufferable lecture to him, as if anyone gives a fuck about what he has to say. Literally the only way he has to inflict his stupidity on the world is against hapless victims, who he lectures over only after they're safely bound and gagged and can't reply.

After all, his viewpoints are so weak, and he is so weak personally, that he knows none of the utter nonsense he has to say could withstand scrutiny. And this fucker has the outright temerity to then talk about "freedom" and "tyranny" while doing this Orwellian shit.
I've read that infraction notice three times and I'm still not sure why that post rustled his jimmies so badly. Because the Statue of Liberty could be interpreted as fascist? By his own logic white men = bad so wouldn't it follow that white men statue = Bad?

Also, way to shoot your whole argument in the foot by referring to "witch burnings" in the US of A. You're either a Eurofag or historically illiterate and even the Washington Post thinks you should educate yourself.
 
Some stuff to consider:

Pebo (the fellow in question) joined RPGnet on 2008. The current infractions forum goes back to 2012. But all of Pebo's infractions (five total) have been in the last year or so (2019-2020).

(If I was him I'd start getting ready to go somewhere else, because it looks like that titanic faggot Tanka is seriously interested in kicking him off permanently.)

Another recipient of the One Month RPGnet Free Award, manwhat, has seven -- but again all within the 2019-2020 timeframe, for a guy who's been on RPGnet since 2006.

I am sorely tempted to suggest we apply the ResetEra ban algorithms to RPGnet, just to see if there's a pattern.
 
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Absolute lunacy. The spade expression literally dates to before Christ as a simple Wikipedia search would reveal:

"The idiom originates in the classical Greek of Plutarch's Apophthegmata Laconica, and was introduced into the English language in 1542 in Nicolas Udall's translation of the Apophthegmes, where Erasmus had seemingly replaced Plutarch's images of "trough" and "fig" with the more familiar "spade." The idiom has appeared in many literary and popular works, including those of Oscar Wilde, Charles Dickens, Ralph Waldo Emerson,[2] W. Somerset Maugham, and Jonathan Swift."

The term "spade" as used to refer to a black person, as in "black as the Ace of Spades," refers to the card suit. It dates probably to the early 20th Century.
 
A returning poster comments on the change in forum culture.
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Well, actually, this is what the people wanted, comrade.
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The rest of the thread is a goldmine for battered wife syndrome, with the occasional mod popping in to deny that the forums are run by a hivemind.

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See? Its perfectly normal to accidentally say something that could be interpreted as critical of the Politburo trannies and be sent to the gulag permabanned by a non-accountable busybody. This is how good forums are run. The only alternative is anarchy, or fascism, or possibly anarcho-faschism and no good people want that.
 
Those posters are wise not to take the bait. Mods have been known to go through complaint threads and ban the stronger dissenters. They even had a "Tell us what's wrong with moderation" thread a few years ago, where posters were encouraged to criticize their overlords, and a bunch of those people got disappeared soon afterwards, Stalin style. These threads are always meant for level-headed, restrained asskissing.
 
I don't lurk the ResetEra thread much (as much as I should). I know how spergy ResetEra is, but what do you mean by ban algorithms?
I apologize for not getting back sooner on this.

Someone (I need to recheck who) was tracking the bans on ResetEra, in real time, as it spiraled up... and up... and up.

What I'd like to see is a chart showing the rate of bans/infractions over on RPGnet.
 
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