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[Hugbox Kommissar]

Hang on guys, if you tilt your head and squint, this is kind of a victory for feminism. But also we need to destroy all university records now now now oh god they're all going to die.

Cope brothers! Cope like you've never coped before (since Bernie lost)!

 

[Tactical Wizard]

Zeea has stuck her worthless fucking nose into the Mystara fan update thread because of a magic love spell handkerchief that won’t work for teh gaze.


And some rando bitches about chain mail bikinis for good boy points.

 

[NerdShamer]

Looks like they banned Che Guevera.

And they hate people who are pointing out just how screwed Afghanistan is.

 

[Hugbox Kommissar]

Genuine Woman MithrilMaiden appeals to Californians to continue to support their shitty corrupt governor because the alternative is....a Republican!

"I'm not happy that Newsom ensured no other Democrat could be elected, but we shouldn't punish him for this. He should be rewarded with continuing to serve as governor."

This is why California deserves to sink into the sea.

 

[Tactical Wizard]

We must be sure that we’re concerned about all possible cultural insensitivity on behalf of anyone who may be offended.

 

[FreedomMussel]

Have they gotten upset about wendigoes being inaccurately depicted with deer skulls yet?

 

[Kongo-Müller]

As someone of 0.0000000000000000000027% Latin heritage I hereby order the RPG.net mods to stop to appropriate my culture and cease any unapproved use of the script of my people, including but not limited to the code in which their forum is written.

I'm available as a fully qualified sensitivity and awesomeness reader at a very reasonable fee.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

We must be sure that we’re concerned about all possible cultural insensitivity on behalf of anyone who may be offended.
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For a novelty I'm actually tangentially aware of this shit as a result of a series called Seven Periods With Mr Gormsby. The TLDR is certain tattoos are considered utterly indecent if worn by unsuitable individuals. Think some random scum sauntering around in the Pope's outfit.

Of course many forms of media do do stuff like that as did Gormsby;

I'm pretty certain the full series is on Youtube, it's a New Zealand production. While there's bits of it I am no fan of the majority of it is interesting with an absolutely vicious approach to the sort of people in it that would willingly mod RPG.net.

Getting back on subject I suspect nothing in that series would be deemed acceptable on rpg.net except the jokes about Catholic priests raping people. Those jokes will be fine unless the wrong poster makes them at which point they are "minimising rape."

 

[PancakesPancakesPancakes]

Have they gotten upset about wendigoes being inaccurately depicted with deer skulls yet?

Close. Windigoes need to have the word blocked out like G-d for does for some Jews.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Have they gotten upset about wendigoes being inaccurately depicted with deer skulls yet?

It'll be interesting to see how they react to antlers. I'm guessing a lot of screaming about cultural appropriation at the very least.

 

[FreedomMussel]

It'll be interesting to see how they react to antlers. I'm guessing a lot of screaming about cultural appropriation at the very least.

I’m an amateur folklorist, so I’m more frustrated about white folks just getting the whole thing wrong. it’s not just that the antlers were invented by a white guy in a 2000s movie (and even then the monster in said movie was a shapeshifter, so imitators got it recursively wrong), but mass market pop culture is also two centuries out of date. Nowadays the wendigo is much bigger and more political in Algonquin cultures. It’s come to be a fullblown Satan/Ahriman-type figure and a symbol of colonialism and capitalist excess. That sounds really interesting, right? But you wouldn’t know any of that from watching b-movies where it’s a generic faux exotic monster to terrorize white people. You’d think anti-white anti-capitalist anti-American Hollywood would be all over that sort of symbolism, giving millions of dollars to Algonquin creators to realize their vision with faux profound statements like “America is the real wendigo”, but no! Instead we get yet another generic b-movie where a generic monster invented by white folks terrorizes white folks and has a foreign name tacked on to make it feel faux exotic (assuming viewers even know the name isn’t native English, and there’s a surprising number of people who don’t know that). The name is so utterly divorced from its roots and Algonquin cultures that I doubt any actually valid sense of cultural appropriation is applicable. A terminal case of cultural ignorance, maybe. We have the internet now, and entire books written about the origins and current cultural context of the wendigo, but still it’s the lies that circle the world.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

I’m an amateur folklorist, so I’m more frustrated about white folks just getting the whole thing wrong. it’s not just that the antlers were invented by a white guy in a 2000s movie (and even then the monster in said movie was a shapeshifter, so imitators got it recursively wrong), but mass market pop culture is also two centuries out of date. Nowadays the wendigo is much bigger and more political in Algonquin cultures. It’s come to be a fullblown Satan/Ahriman-type figure and a symbol of colonialism and capitalist excess. That sounds really interesting, right? But you wouldn’t know any of that from watching b-movies where it’s a generic faux exotic monster to terrorize white people. You’d think anti-white anti-capitalist anti-American Hollywood would be all over that sort of symbolism, giving millions of dollars to Algonquin creators to realize their vision with faux profound statements like “America is the real wendigo”, but no! Instead we get yet another generic b-movie where a generic monster invented by white folks terrorizes white folks and has a foreign name tacked on to make it feel faux exotic (assuming viewers even know the name isn’t native English, and there’s a surprising number of people who don’t know that). The name is so utterly divorced from its roots and Algonquin cultures that I doubt any actually valid sense of cultural appropriation is applicable. A terminal case of cultural ignorance, maybe. We have the internet now, and entire books written about the origins and current cultural context of the wendigo, but still it’s the lies that circle the world.

Offhand, is there any depiction that doesn't irretrievably fuck it up?

I can generally sympathize with people who get frustrated with poorly done or incompetent interpretations of folklore, as opposed to muh cultural appropriation bullshit.

 

[NerdShamer]

Slightly old, but there are technical reasons that slows down the process of restoring one's ban records. Surely, it's a lot simpler than it sounds?

 

[FreedomMussel]

Offhand, is there any depiction that doesn't irretrievably fuck it up?

I can generally sympathize with people who get frustrated with poorly done or incompetent interpretations of folklore, as opposed to muh cultural appropriation bullshit.

I actually haven’t been able to find anything outside of an academic context.

There’s Ginger Snaps Back, which has a commentary on colonialism in the form of heartthrob Nathaniel Arcand fighting invasive werewolves introduced from Europe.

 

[Troonologist PhD]

I’m an amateur folklorist, so I’m more frustrated about white folks just getting the whole thing wrong. it’s not just that the antlers were invented by a white guy in a 2000s movie (and even then the monster in said movie was a shapeshifter, so imitators got it recursively wrong), but mass market pop culture is also two centuries out of date. Nowadays the wendigo is much bigger and more political in Algonquin cultures. It’s come to be a fullblown Satan/Ahriman-type figure and a symbol of colonialism and capitalist excess. That sounds really interesting, right? But you wouldn’t know any of that from watching b-movies where it’s a generic faux exotic monster to terrorize white people. You’d think anti-white anti-capitalist anti-American Hollywood would be all over that sort of symbolism, giving millions of dollars to Algonquin creators to realize their vision with faux profound statements like “America is the real wendigo”, but no! Instead we get yet another generic b-movie where a generic monster invented by white folks terrorizes white folks and has a foreign name tacked on to make it feel faux exotic (assuming viewers even know the name isn’t native English, and there’s a surprising number of people who don’t know that). The name is so utterly divorced from its roots and Algonquin cultures that I doubt any actually valid sense of cultural appropriation is applicable. A terminal case of cultural ignorance, maybe. We have the internet now, and entire books written about the origins and current cultural context of the wendigo, but still it’s the lies that circle the world.

So what was the monster like before its image got taken over by Wokeness?

 

[FreedomMussel]

So what was the monster like before its image got taken over by Wokeness?

The “windigo as colonialism and capitalist excess” technically long predates wokeness. First Nations people are still being subject to human rights abuses like involuntary sterilization well into the present, so it’s not surprising that ancient stories of monsters based on harsh winters have changed to suit the modern circumstances of indoor heating.

If you want to read about ancient stories originating from pre-colonization times, here’s a convenient catalogue: http://www.native-languages.org/ice-cannibal.htm Different stories of “ice cannibals” are found among many different tribes that had to deal with harsh winters.

 

[mr.moon1488]

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Hang on guys, if you tilt your head and squint, this is kind of a victory for feminism. But also we need to destroy all university records now now now oh god they're all going to die.
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Cope brothers! Cope like you've never coped before (since Bernie lost)!

>He's following a timetable established by Trump
I must have missed the part where all US forces were out by May 1st and what's going on now is just an illusion.

 

[Flexo]

I've always thought it's kind of lazy to use rape as shorthand for EEEE-vill, but these retards take getting a case of the vapors to a new extreme.

It actually serves a plot purpose. In the world of goblin slayer, ALL goblins are male.

So how do you get more goblins?

That's why they capture females.

It also helps justify Goblin Slayer's genocidal attitude towards them. Some of what he does to them would be near war crimes if it was human against human.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Offhand, is there any depiction that doesn't irretrievably fuck it up?

The Guy Pearce movie 'Ravenous' returns to the roots of the myth, which is (IIRC) that anyone who eats human flesh can become wendigo, and human flesh becomes an addiction for them.
Great movie too, I get bored by yawnfest slasher flicks that are all fake blood, wobbly camera work and people screaming (looking at you, Rob Zombie), but Ravenous genuinely left me feeling nauseated.

 

[Flexo]

The Guy Pearce movie 'Ravenous' returns to the roots of the myth, which is (IIRC) that anyone who eats human flesh can become wendigo, and human flesh becomes an addiction for them.
Great movie too, I get bored by yawnfest slasher flicks that are all fake blood, wobbly camera work and people screaming (looking at you, Rob Zombie), but Ravenous genuinely left me feeling nauseated.

It's gonna be sad if Supernatural's second episode is a top contender too...

Spoiler: Goblin Slayer sperging

It's not a good story. Aside from being puerile and edgelordy (I'd say "misogynistic", but that's lost all meaning nowadays and isn't taken seriously even when it would make sense to apply), the world building is both generic D&D clone (which has its own issues that are too big to tackle here) and its unique aspect doesn't hold up under scrutiny. The 1d4chan page points out that you can't simultaneously depict the goblins as a big threat to civilization and as a harmless pest to the same civilization depending on whether it's convenient for the narrative at that moment, as that breaks suspension of disbelief.

The author freely admits that the story is pretty much inspired by the idea of the Punisher/Batman being thrown into D&D games.

And goblins in the world operate much like zombies do in other media. A few dozen or so are "harmless pests" but if you ignore them too long and let the numbers swell, then they become a big threat.

It's also not "convienent" to the narrative. There's always factors to when a threat arises. Either 1) A unifying force arises (like a warlock or something) to unite and focus the goblins. Or 2) It is relevant to the location. i.e. A large urban city center is not as much threatened by goblins as a distant, remote, rural villages.

The biggest sin I can level at GS personally is that it isn't WarCraft: Orcs & Humans. In that game, the orcs are conquistadors. Full stop. In the second game, they even recruit persecuted minorities to fight for them a la Cortez and the Aztecs. That's interesting, complex, nuanced, morally clusterfucked, very human-like despite being aliens from another world. (Ignore the retcons that they were innocent victims in the third game, that's war crime erasure bullshit.) I wish more orcs/goblins in fiction were like that, rather than the false dichotomy of either simplistic puppets of evil or poor innocent stand-ins for non-white people.

Well then watch something like "That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime." Or Maoyuu. Or so many more. There's plenty of anime out there that fulfill that itch. Goblin Slayer is mediocre, that's fair, but it's not trying to be anything deeper and just wants to be entertaining. It's the John Wick level of anime.

Guys, it's just a show about two gods playing D&D with murderhobo goblins who are also into rape.

Well I think it's like 4 gods, but yes, that's fair.

Did you watch the series? The tone is all over the place. The first episode makes it look like Berserk and then the rest are generic fantasy anime hijinks.

Series, movie, Year One manga and up to vol 6 of the light novel.

I also approve of the Goblin Slayer abridged. That shit is hilarious.