RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

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I hate Ruby as she’s just annoying as fuck and Monty’s waifu. Plus I have a feeling she has some Rey from Star Wars ”I am flawless” character about her. Her sister is clearly just there for weeb waifu eye candy. Blake is the “loner Waifu“ character that weebs love. Weiss I am intrigued by her story as she seems to be the only interesting one out of that group.
That's the basic gist of it, but if you think that Ruby is Monty's waifu wank material wait until you get an eye full of Raven.
I like Jaune so far of course I haven’t gotten to some parts that others in the thread has mentioned. Pyrrha is best girl(I know she dies) and if RWBY was centered on her rather than RWBY that could have made the series much better. Perhaps seeing her have a fall from grace and redemption or Jaune screws up so bad that it affects Pyrrha’s reputation that they have to fix, etc. I also like that JNPR is based on mythology whereas RWBY is just Monty and crews waifus.
Juane is fine, the issue is that the show is called RWBY and as time move on RWBY become more and more peripheral as JNPR takes center stage.
These are just my initial impressions as I just started. I like the schlock so far as it’s fine. However, I know it’s going to get a lot worse, but I do not know when.
Personally I don't think that it actually gets worse, so much as it stays the same level of shit but simply becomes bad in different and less tolerable ways.
 
Hahahaha, maybe it's my inner weeaboo, but I'm still mocking the big comic giants for trying to capture a part of the anime pie. I hope they have some shitty irrelevant scene to be woke like in the Justice League movie, where there were neo nazi skinheads trashing a muslim store simply for no justifiable reason other than virtuesignalling.

At least Marvel China I can give credit for them making new Chinese superheroes for the Chinese market, but I know they're going to try to milk that for all it's worth in the end too.
"yeah, take that comics obviously aimed for boys and preteens! How dare you uphold the patriarchy? Believe All Wahmyn!"

I bet MultiShipperFandom is a fucking riot to be around in real life. What she doesn't know could fill the ocean.

They effectively are just a different form of "normie" IME, they know just enough to pretend they're not at face value but they effectively are. You see this a lot with major franchises in many spheres especially with video games and anime where people effectively only live in one maybe two spaces and they're all the ultra popular ones.

It is like being a "JRPG fan" when all you've played is a couple of Final Fantasy games, but you know just about nothing about anything lesser known then that such as Tales Of or Xenoblade except that you've heard of them once because Xenoblade 2 had too much big anime tiddy. More cult classic things that only someone genuinely interested in that gaming genre would actively seek for will likely just fly over your head such as The World Ends with You, the Ys series, Eternal Sonata, or the Trails/Kieski series etc because they aren't the big popular thing everyone talks about constantly.

To put it another way, IME with the anime sphere most people who really really like RWBY unironically and claim to be anime fans have probably no idea what a long running Shonen anime truly is beyond maybe MHA, because MHA also has this sort of cult of popularity and it is newer. I noticed this with Attack on Titan where for some reason AoT managed to garner non-anime people to be 'anime fans' for a little while but they don't know what the hell anime is besides maybe Dragon Ball Z and the big 3 shonens from the 2000s (Bleach, Naruto, One Piece) but they've likely never seen those either. As another example just about no one in this sort of sphere would know what Berserk, Ghost in the Shell, or Trigun even is beyond that they might have vaguely heard about it once.
I agree with your statement here but you need to replace Final Fantasy with Persona lol. That series has taken over as the normie jrpg and its unfortunate because I love Persona and SMT in general but I do not like the normie interest in it.

But this is genuinely the thing. Animu has surged in popularity to the point where it now has consoom product status so now everybody considers themselves an animu fan. I had this realization myself when I went convention hopping and after chatting up some people who, while they knew the big stuff like MHA and DBZ, had no idea what Yu Yu Hakusho was.

Yu Yu fucking Hakusho. How do you not know one of the GOATS?
This is what garners a lot of hate for mainstream sensation. A lot of people tend to forget that the mainstream is eager to prey on the weakness of aesthetic and presentable pleasantness: ie as long as they can sell the sizzle, they can sell anything before collateral damage comes in.

Honestly, it's like poetry and the case of "you are what you eat": RWBY attracts fans who are barely anime fans in the first place. For all of the flak I give to Teen Titans and Avatar, I know at least a lot of the fans are more than just otaku levels of fans for their shows and that both of them stand out on their own uniqueness. RWBY is one half competent potential but one quarter poser material and another half unrefined composition. It, again, is like a mid 2000s anime webcomic that only wants to be like everything else because the author is only in middle/high school and fan sperging about everything they see, but in this case, it's two writers that can't even have that distinction because they never watched anime in the first place. The original creator knew his shit, and is now fuckin' dead, rest his soul.

Again, if anything else a whole lot more competent came out of the blue and fought for its spot, it wouldn't even be a contest. Hell, it would make a launch pad out of it and go even higher. I seriously don't know what the hell caused all of the inspiration of western anime fans in the 2000s to just up and die out. I have speculations, I have working theories, but this is as just as mysterious as the Bermuda Triangle at this point at how western anime fans in the 2000s barely sprouted anything from that boom. If anyone else from that timeframe was able to provide competition to RWBY, I'm sure things would be much different.

On an off path subject, honestly, Attack On Titan is ironically what every normalfag thought was anime was in the 90s: gore porn with shallow premises while animated to be subversive and alternative media for shock value, and this comes from the guy who loves 90s and 80s OAVs. I can at least vouch for the other OAVs that they had a lot more creative potential to bloom and weren't just gorn than Attack On Titan. Attack On Titan only gains its popularity thanks to Japan being known for kaiju movies, and in this case it's now the little guy versus the big monsters. Nothing against those who like it, or the show itself, at least the lowest common denominator got the upper hand, even if it's not my thing.

also aylmao at JRPG casuals nowadays, hahaha, talk to me when you play real JRPGs, like Wild ARMs, Legend of Dragoon, Mystic Ark, or the original Tales of Phantasia, Shin Megami Tensei, and Seiken Densetsu 3.
 
That's the basic gist of it, but if you think that Ruby is Monty's waifu wank material wait until you get an eye full of Raven.

Juane is fine, the issue is that the show is called RWBY and as time move on RWBY become more and more peripheral as JNPR takes center stage.

Personally I don't think that it actually gets worse, so much as it stays the same level of shit but simply becomes bad in different and less tolerable ways.
I wonder if after Monty died if they didn’t say ”well JNPR are more interesting so let’s just focus on them more now that we don’t have to upset the creator.” Maybe they felt like JNPR should have been the main characters.
 
I wonder if after Monty died if they didn’t say ”well JNPR are more interesting so let’s just focus on them more now that we don’t have to upset the creator.” Maybe they felt like JNPR should have been the main characters.
More like miles bitching that his self insert needed more scenes so people would think he is cool.
 
I wonder if after Monty died if they didn’t say ”well JNPR are more interesting so let’s just focus on them more now that we don’t have to upset the creator.” Maybe they felt like JNPR should have been the main characters.
They pretty much dumpstered whatever Monty had going on as soon as he died, but the Jaune show stealing starts all the way in V1 when he gets an entire arc to himself, and his romance with a perfect waifu becomes the emotional core of the season. The minute Miles got in the VA booth for his own character it was all over for Ruby as protagonist.
 
They pretty much dumpstered whatever Monty had going on as soon as he died, but the Jaune show stealing starts all the way in V1 when he gets an entire arc to himself, and his romance with a perfect waifu becomes the emotional core of the season. The minute Miles got in the VA booth for his own character it was all over for Ruby as protagonist.
If anyone could have used some screentime for themselves, it was Yang. She was such a non-character for V1.
 
Jaune was essentially set up as a secondary protagonist from the start, to be fair. He made a good parallel to Ruby. And having the secondary characters be more interesting and engaging than the main characters is a fairly common staple of shonen anime.
This is where I am. I’m still fairly early into V1, they just got into teams after finding the chess pieces. Jaune doesn’t seem that bad YET just the goofy secondary protagonist. Though I do have trouble believing Pyrrha would instantly take a like to him, but being Miles self insert explains a lot.
 
This is where I am. I’m still fairly early into V1, they just got into teams after finding the chess pieces. Jaune doesn’t seem that bad YET just the goofy secondary protagonist. Though I do have trouble believing Pyrrha would instantly take a like to him, but being Miles self insert explains a lot.
Her reasons are expanded on a bit later in a way that does make sense for the setting.
 
Jaune was essentially set up as a secondary protagonist from the start, to be fair. He made a good parallel to Ruby. And having the secondary characters be more interesting and engaging than the main characters is a fairly common staple of shonen anime.
Which is all true but that doesn't make it any less of a problem that detracts from the story and forcing them to compete for screen time is always a bad move. Shonen at least tends to know when to bring those teams together and when to have them apart.
 
Actually really like volume 1. Yeah the animation is shit and the voice work is subpar, but so far I like the characters. This was the season before Monty died, right?
 
Actually really like volume 1. Yeah the animation is shit and the voice work is subpar, but so far I like the characters. This was the season before Monty died, right?
Monty died during the production of V3.
 
Actually really like volume 1. Yeah the animation is shit and the voice work is subpar, but so far I like the characters. This was the season before Monty died, right?
Monty died mid-production of volume 3, which is the volume where it kind of succeeds in some areas and shits the bed in others at the same time.
 
And when you're caught up with the rest of us, or once you finish V5, I can't wait to tell you about Fixing RWBY.
I am just waiting for this poor bastard to watch Ironwood being so unbelievably based that the writers do everything in their power to ruin him.

Ironwood literally did nothing wrong though.
 
And having the secondary characters be more interesting and engaging than the main characters is a fairly common staple of shonen anime.
Shonen anime writing is not something anyone should strive to emulate, unless it's purely the bones of how those narratives work.

Even then, the issue isn't that Jaune is more interesting or has more going on. It's that he actively removes Ruby's reason for even existing. It's less like a Shonen case where the side characters are overall more interesting, and more like a Shonen where the side character is the protagonist and the protagonist might as well not even be there.

Like at least Naruto gets to actively fight the bad guys, has a motivation, and is the driving force of the narrative. Ruby is... just there. Any time she should be in the spotlight Jaune is awkwardly handed the reins instead.

Best example is the end of V5. We've had an entire previous volume of Cinder seething and wanting revenge against Ruby for searing out her eyeball. Instead of that, when the two are finally in a room together, Jaune takes center stage and the two don't even acknowledge each other. Jaune gets the big moment of conflict, Ruby is barely even a footnote.
 
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