RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[Tanner Glass]

Regardless, RWBY has a built-in fanbase and even many of the biggest critics whinge endlessly about how they would love a proper reboot of the show. RWBY was massively successful despite being shit a vast majority of the time, if you could take the IP and make something good with it you could probably make it very comfortably profitable, and likely be heralded as the group that saved RWBY from its incompetent inheritors.

I'd love a RWBY reboot, but I know it's not financially viable.

If you were a potiental investor - you'd have to ask why you hosted Vol 9 on Crunchyroll (because it wasn't profitable enough for RT First) and they passed on it but greenlit High Guardian Spice. There's a lot of questions around "If it's good - why get rid of it?" and "If it's good - why did X, Y, Z not pick it up?". On top of that - the show's creative vision and drive died with Monty - so it's not like you could steal him with a RWBY reboot and have him make more shows (like Seth McFarlane or a Taratosvsky) for decades. No one associated with current RWBY has shown they can actually produce a show of any substantial quality.

On top of that - if you do miraculously find some executive with piles of money who wants to revive an anime - why RWBY? There is a lot of anime and most of the rights are not expensive. There are piles of shows that would make a much better foundation for "Revived Anime" than RWBY and for much cheaper considering that WB has shown a "fuck it we'll hold on to IP until we die" mentality.

I don't even know where you would show a RWBY reboot - even Adult Swim mainly just airs cheap syndicated shows. It wasn't successful enough on it's own to justify it being exclusively on any streaming service either. Maybe Crunchyroll is playing the long game, waiting for the value to collapse, then pick it up for cheap but that seems unlikely too.

 

[Mega Black]

It doesn't have that blind hatred that something like Sword Art Online has where it has a massive base of haters who will watch everything about it just to complain about how their favorite bootleg SAO is so much better. RWBY has haters, but I don't think that it's to a financially beneficial degree, if you get what I mean

Eh, as someone who has been around that side of the fandom for a long time I would probably disagree. I will concede that the IP's popularity has floundered a lot in general, however.

On top of that - if you do miraculously find some executive with piles of money who wants to revive an anime - why RWBY?

I would say because it's not really an anime, but a western cartoon that specifically eschews most of the issues that would come with adapting an anime. There is no fanservice, it's full BIPOC Mafia compliant, and it began American and ended American, yet still managed to break into the Japanese market.

As for the rest of your post, the absence of any of the original creative team is the one unique opportunity where you could dump them and the response would largely be 'good' from the audience. Disregarding that studios don't want a Monty Oum anyway, they want a cheap product they could pass off to anybody to make cheap content for mass consumption. RWBY could easily fit that bill.

Regardless, what I'm saying is that, no, WB is not going to sell the IP for literal peanuts. They'll want a couple million out of it at least. Sorry to say.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

I don’t think people realize how much the last minute lesbian stunt has damaged the RWBY IP. And no, I am not being homphobic, or whatever buzzword twitter uses. I am something they hate even more, a capitalist.

The huge indifference they got speak volumes. Literally nobody cared. Not even us (notice nobody is talking about it). Not only did it prove that the yuri fans, mostly Adult men with a fetish pretending to be LGBT allies, are a minority. But it did Squat to save the show.

Usually a big part of the appeal of teenager shows like this one, is the shipping. Now whoever reboots this show will be forced to recreate it or face the wrath of insufferable twitter “fans” and online sites accusing them of “lgbt erasure”

Half of your main characters are in an unpopular relationship wich mostly only coomers and LGBT “allies” that don’t watch the show or buy merch like, with few exceptions. Good luck selling a show with that baggage. Or trying to retcon it and face all the bad publicity that comes with it. And if they try to continue the show, as it was, that’s like trying to revive a corpse.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Regardless, what I'm saying is that, no, WB is not going to sell the IP for literal peanuts. They'll want a couple million out of it at least. Sorry to say.

I mean, yeah, probably, but it would be funny

 

[Male Idiot]

I don’t think people realize how much the last minute lesbian stunt has damaged the RWBY IP. And no, I am not being homphobic, or whatever buzzword twitter uses. I am something they hate even more, a capitalist.

The huge indifference they got speak volumes. Literally nobody cared. Not even us (notice nobody is talking about it). Not only did it prove that the yuri fans, mostly Adult men with a fetish pretending to be LGBT allies, are a minority. But it did Squat to save the show.

Usually a big part of the appeal of teenager shows like this one, is the shipping. Now whoever reboots this show will be forced to recreate it or face the wrath of insufferable twitter “fans” and online sites accusing them of “lgbt erasure”

Half of your main characters are in an unpopular relationship wich mostly only coomers and LGBT “allies” that don’t watch the show or buy merch like, with few exceptions. Good luck selling a show with that baggage. Or trying to retcon it and face all the bad publicity that comes with it. And if they try to continue the show, as it was, that’s like trying to revive a corpse.

Yeah. They could have gone for Ruby and Weiss or the robot girl. The catgirl had a boyfriend and ex boyfriend, this made little sense. Monkey bro got done dirty.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

Yeah. They could have gone for Ruby and Weiss or the robot girl. The catgirl had a boyfriend and ex boyfriend, this made little sense. Monkey bro got done dirty.

That would have made far more sense. If they wanted lesbians that badly then Ruby and Weiss or Ruby and Penny was a far more popular choice.

Call me crazy but I suspect they didn't do the obvious choice because Miles Luna wants to ship his self insert, Jaune, with Weiss. So he decided to "sacrifice" the other two instead.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

. If they wanted lesbians that badly then Ruby and Weiss or Ruby and Penny was a far more popular choice.

Yeah, but like Weiss is straight. Ruby has no confirmed sexuality, IIRC, so her and Penny might have worked (though it would require them to actually build it up more like Ren and Nora, and less like Yang and Blake)

 

[SherlockMexicano]

Yeah, but like Weiss is straight. Ruby has no confirmed sexuality, IIRC, so her and Penny might have worked (though it would require them to actually build it up more like Ren and Nora, and less like Yang and Blake)

Weren't they all straight at the beginning tho? Pretty sure Yang was implied to be boy crazy somewhere. And Blake had an ex-boyfriend.

That has never stopped them before.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Weren't they all straight at the beginning tho? Pretty sure Yang was implied to be boy crazy somewhere. And Blake had an ex-boyfriend.

Weiss had a crush on Neptune, Yang lusted over boys and spied on their showers (the latter happened in a spin off series called RWBY Chibi, but the former happened in canon), Blake has had a boyfriend (Adam), and was interested in another boy (Sun).

Ruby, as far as I am aware, only has one reference to liking boys, and it is a debatable one:

https://rwby.fandom.com/wiki/The_Shining_Beacon,_Pt.2

So, if you're picking someone to make a lesbo, Ruby seems to have little to no canon evidence of being straight. The above screencap can easily be interpreted as Ruby being excited to the possibility to making it up to Weiss (the context), and being friends with her. Granted, I'm pretty sure Ruby is straight, but again, if you got to pick anyone, she works.

That has never stopped them before.

True.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

That has never stopped them before.

As comic books have shown for years, it doesn't matter if a character was canonically straight for decades, had multiple relationships, and even had children, if they want you to be gay, they will make you gay.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I believe the most important thing for anyone who eventually picks up and reboots RWBY is to under absolutely no circumstances hire any of the former Rooster Teeth alumni.

Just hire Joel, but just have his character rattle off “Buy Gold and Silver”.

 

[A Very Big Fish]

As comic books have shown for years, it doesn't matter if a character was canonically straight for decades, had multiple relationships, and even had children, if they want you to be gay, they will make you gay.

What, you think it was weird that Alan Scott, the 90+ year old Green Lantern just came out as gay despite being first published in the 1940's?

 

[Male Idiot]

Ah forgot that Weiss part. Ruby is honorary straight after the memes anyway.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

New post by the (gay) Art Director & Art Manager at Rooster Teeth who worked on RWBY

https://archive.ph/emEYE

You know despite her being gay and pro-trans, fuck, that's some good art. Full image:

 

[Gorillion others]

They're either trying to kill the company on purpose, or they really are that full of themselves.

LMAO! This has aged well.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

Nothing to say really but here’s kerry statement
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The fact that WB actually funded those crossovers with DC directly just proves that WB did try to make them profitable and save them. But RT fans still are trying to cope by pretending “mean evil WB“ shut them down for no reason.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

One of the things I find really sad is how corporate the Semblances became and how overused some of them were.

RWBY lore states that after the Great War, every Kingdom and its people started promoting the idea 24/7 that everyone is unique. But that is betrayed by the small amounts of diverse Semblances we see, and the ones we do see end up being common super hero powers, dime a dozen ones.

Ruby and the rest of the speedsters which are apparently unremarkable in their Semblance differences, are all essentially a discount Flash. Ruby technically is a bit different since Vol 6, but it literally never was of any use, so who cares. Actually, scratch that, the difference was useful exactly once.

Blake? Clones. Literally one of the most basic super powers. Just about every fantasy story ever has clones. Star Wars has them, DC has them, Star Treck has them, DBZ has them, Naruto has them, you get the picture.

Telekinesis? Not only is this a basic bitch power, it's not a unique one. There's at least two people in RWBY Canon that have it

Mind control? Sure, pick by your preferred method. There's like three people who have been revealed to have it.

Color changing? Again, not unique. Blake's lesbo friend has it, and one of Roman's friends has it too

Illusions? Again, pick by the type, we have plenty.

Powerups? Sure, bro, do you want the good one or the shit one?

You get the picture.

I kinda wish they focused on interesting Semblances like Weiss' family one (Which proves that Weiss is part of Remnant Master Race), Clover/Qrow one (though I have an entirely different rant about that), and so on.

There's so much potential for creativity. One Piece has tons of seemingly shit abilities that end up being useful if you're creative, and you can probably count on yout hand the number of similar abilities (4, which makes the number 8, out of over 200).

This kinda hit me yesterday

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

One of the things I find really sad is how corporate the Semblances became and how overused some of them were.

RWBY lore states that after the Great War, every Kingdom and its people started promoting the idea 24/7 that everyone is unique. But that is betrayed by the small amounts of diverse Semblances we see, and the ones we do see end up being common super hero powers, dime a dozen ones.

Ruby and the rest of the speedsters which are apparently unremarkable in their Semblance differences, are all essentially a discount Flash. Ruby technically is a bit different since Vol 6, but it literally never was of any use, so who cares. Actually, scratch that, the difference was useful exactly once.

Blake? Clones. Literally one of the most basic super powers. Just about every fantasy story ever has clones. Star Wars has them, DC has them, Star Treck has them, DBZ has them, Naruto has them, you get the picture.

Telekinesis? Not only is this a basic bitch power, it's not a unique one. There's at least two people in RWBY Canon that have it

Mind control? Sure, pick by your preferred method. There's like three people who have been revealed to have it.

Color changing? Again, not unique. Blake's lesbo friend has it, and one of Roman's friends has it too

Illusions? Again, pick by the type, we have plenty.

Powerups? Sure, bro, do you want the good one or the shit one?

You get the picture.

I kinda wish they focused on interesting Semblances like Weiss' family one (Which proves that Weiss is part of Remnant Master Race), Clover/Qrow one (though I have an entirely different rank about that), and so on.

There's so much potential for creativity. One Piece has tons of seemingly shit abilities that end up being useful if you're creative, and you can probably count on yout hand the number of similar abilities (4, which makes the number 8, out of over 200).

This kinda hit me yesterday

The whole, "Every semblance is completely unique" line went out the window the minute we found out that semblances could be inherited, meaning that there were people running around with the exact same semblance as another person. And, as you said, the semblances were so generic, that there was no way that idea was logical. I hate to say it, but freaking Bleach did a better job at giving every character completely unique powers and abilities, such that no two characters were the same, even if they were the same type of being and had some basic abilities in common. The problem with Bleach was that the story eventually devolved to the point where every battle was eventually ended by the victor (usually the hero), pulling out the one mechanical ability they had out of their ass which was just what was necessary to counter the ability of their opponent (usually the villain).

I've said this before, but RWBY's power system is literally just a shittier version of HunterxHunter's. No, seriously. The Nen abilities in HxH are powered by "aura", just like the semblances in RWBY, and the aura in HxH is literally described as being a person's own life energy, in the same way that aura in RWBY is said to be powered by the soul. Semblances are just a shittier version of HxH's Nen abilities. Nen even allows one to use their aura as a shield and to heal their bodies, just like aura can in RWBY. The Nen system of HxH is what RWBY's semblance system wishes it was.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The whole, "Every semblance is completely unique" line went out the window the minute we found out that semblances could be inherited, meaning that there were people running around with the exact same semblance as another person.

I kinda liked the fact that Weiss' family was unique in the sense that they were actually genetically better than everyone else, and would share their overpowered Semblance. Not only was that unique, but also really fit the Schnee motif. I can see where your coming from, though.

 

[Whiskey]

One of the things I find really sad is how corporate the Semblances became and how overused some of them were.

RWBY lore states that after the Great War, every Kingdom and its people started promoting the idea 24/7 that everyone is unique. But that is betrayed by the small amounts of diverse Semblances we see, and the ones we do see end up being common super hero powers, dime a dozen ones.

Ruby and the rest of the speedsters which are apparently unremarkable in their Semblance differences, are all essentially a discount Flash. Ruby technically is a bit different since Vol 6, but it literally never was of any use, so who cares. Actually, scratch that, the difference was useful exactly once.

Blake? Clones. Literally one of the most basic super powers. Just about every fantasy story ever has clones. Star Wars has them, DC has them, Star Treck has them, DBZ has them, Naruto has them, you get the picture.

Telekinesis? Not only is this a basic bitch power, it's not a unique one. There's at least two people in RWBY Canon that have it

Mind control? Sure, pick by your preferred method. There's like three people who have been revealed to have it.

Color changing? Again, not unique. Blake's lesbo friend has it, and one of Roman's friends has it too

Illusions? Again, pick by the type, we have plenty.

Powerups? Sure, bro, do you want the good one or the shit one?

You get the picture.

I kinda wish they focused on interesting Semblances like Weiss' family one (Which proves that Weiss is part of Remnant Master Race), Clover/Qrow one (though I have an entirely different rant about that), and so on.

There's so much potential for creativity. One Piece has tons of seemingly shit abilities that end up being useful if you're creative, and you can probably count on yout hand the number of similar abilities (4, which makes the number 8, out of over 200).

This kinda hit me yesterday

Issue is pace of the fights. In a weird sorta shitty way it makes sense that only the most basic of abilities are reliably used in fights.

Think back to shows like the X men you never really had any absurdly complex or creative power. Add to that that I never got the feeling that semblance were ever intended to be anything more then minor abilities.