RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

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Think back to shows like the X men you never really had any absurdly complex or creative power.
Think on the other-hand to something like One Piece which decided it was going to go overboard with creative powers, and actually ended up using them. Or even early manga Fairy Tail which had solved both the pace of fights issue and creative power issue (manga, because the anime is notoriously bad at pacing and tropes).
 
Think on the other-hand to something like One Piece which decided it was going to go overboard with creative powers, and actually ended up using them. Or even early manga Fairy Tail which had solved both the pace of fights issue and creative power issue (manga, because the anime is notoriously bad at pacing and tropes).
You have me at a disadvantage as I've not seen either but are the fights like rwby or are they paced to have moments of dialogue and power ups?

If the fight pauses or it devolves into effectively taking turns you have a lot more leeway for odd powers to shine.
 
You have me at a disadvantage as I've not seen either but are the fights like rwby or are they paced to have moments of dialogue and power ups?
They have a mixture of both. One Piece fights (ignoring fighting grunts) tend to be on a much longer length than RWBY, which is why I included Manga Fairy Tail which as opposed to its Anime counterpart does not have this issue
 
They have a mixture of both. One Piece fights (ignoring fighting grunts) tend to be on a much longer length than RWBY, which is why I included Manga Fairy Tail which as opposed to its Anime counterpart does not have this issue
That's fair. I think for as far as its theme and power level rwby does fairly well with how semblances work. I'm not against more spectacular fights but it would feel weird if things got to the level of buggy from one piece for example ( I've only seen the live action so I imagine the manga takes it to 100).

It's the trade off between having powers to the level of dragonball where they just keep getting more and more of them vs having the fights have a sense of limitations.
 
rwby does fairly well with how semblances work.
The Semblances work in a fight fine, yeah, but in general not only do they kinda feel a bit basic, they end up working against the individuality motif. I mean, I didn't notice that while watching the show, so I guess they did something right, but I did notice it on retrospection.
 
The Semblances work in a fight fine, yeah, but in general not only do they kinda feel a bit basic, they end up working against the individuality motif. I mean, I didn't notice that while watching the show, so I guess they did something right, but I did notice it on retrospection.
I would argue it's better then the alternative. While I enjoy dragon ball I wouldn't want rwby to turn into everyone screaming their semblance attack.

I get your point and I enjoy that kind of spectacle fight but it really needs to be built from the ground up for that. If they went for more unique semblances I feel like they would have to ramp the power levels till neo's semblance seems tame.
 
While I enjoy dragon ball I wouldn't want rwby to turn into everyone screaming their semblance attack.
It doesn't have to be fights, I mean the world is bigger than that. Maybe they sit down at cafe and they get served by someone with a coffee semblance, something absolutely silly.

If they went for more unique semblances I feel like they would have to ramp the power levels till neo's semblance seems tame.
I disagree. DBZ/DBS way of solving problems is kinda lame. "okay, we defeated the Emperor of the Galaxy what next? Man made stronger Emperor. Then cosmic world devouring evil. Then God, oh and what's that? The first emperor did 10 push ups and is now a God too, so we have to beat him up, oh and now we have to fight a tournament where everyone's as strong as that, holy shit, is that a God God! And God God God? WE HAVE TO FIGHT THEM TOO"

I mean, I liked DB and DBZ, but the creator clearly couldn't balance the powers after Freeza saga. DBZ has pretty much nothing in common with the way fighting was in DB
 
It doesn't have to be fights, I mean the world is bigger than that. Maybe they sit down at cafe and they get served by someone with a coffee semblance, something absolutely silly.


I disagree. DBZ/DBS way of solving problems is kinda lame. "okay, we defeated the Emperor of the Galaxy what next? Man made stronger Emperor. Then cosmic world devouring evil. Then God, oh and what's that? The first emperor did 10 push ups and is now a God too, so we have to beat him up, oh and now we have to fight a tournament where everyone's as strong as that, holy shit, is that a God God! And God God God? WE HAVE TO FIGHT THEM TOO"

I mean, I liked DB and DBZ, but the creator clearly couldn't balance the powers after Freeza saga. DBZ has pretty much nothing in common with the way fighting was in DB
I don't really think that would work given how most people have their aura locked ( I think it attracts grim...but that might be my head cannon).

I think the fanus terrorists not the white fang kinda did that no?
 
( I think it attracts grim...but that might be my head cannon)
Emotions attract Grimm (and pre-Vol4, also things like noise and smell, but they retconned it out post Volume 3, and later retconned it in via Roman Holiday after Volume 8)
I think the fanus terrorists not the white fang kinda did that no?
Did what?
 
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Emotions attract Grimm (and pre-Vol4, also things like noise and smell, but they retconned it out post Volume 3, and later retconned it in via Roman Holiday after Volume 8)

Did what?
Had a storage semblance that was just flavor the sheep girl who fucked around with ironwood and found out.
 
Had a storage semblance that was just flavor the sheep girl who fucked around with ironwood and found out.
It's not exactly silly, it was a very useful semblance, though, it was one of the rare unique ones. I mean, I'm not contending that there aren't unique ones, I'm contending that the lore is full of duplicates.
 
It's not exactly silly, it was a very useful semblance, though, it was one of the rare unique ones. I mean, I'm not contending that there aren't unique ones, I'm contending that the lore is full of duplicates.
Fair. I think you are referring more to something like hero no academia vigilantes. I think them deciding early on that only a few people would have semblances stopped that.

I agree with you I just see how novelty has to be a concession to fit the shows fighting style.
 
I just see how novelty has to be a concession to fit the shows fighting style.
And, hey, for better or worse, I only know realized that upon some introspection, so I guessed it worked for them in the end. [insert joke about Rooster Teeth bankruptcy here, lol]
 
And, hey, for better or worse, I only know realized that upon some introspection, so I guessed it worked for them in the end. [insert joke about Rooster Teeth bankruptcy here, lol]
It's a fair point. I think I enjoy the setting and the characters more then the actual plot of the show. Part of me hopes it gets picked up by competent writers who realize the funny hijinks of torchwick are infinitely better then cinders brooding nothing burgers.

Also feel bad for ironwood the man did nothing wrong but everyone insisted on fucking him over.
 
I've said this before, but RWBY's power system is literally just a shittier version of HunterxHunter's. No, seriously. The Nen abilities in HxH are powered by "aura", just like the semblances in RWBY, and the aura in HxH is literally described as being a person's own life energy, in the same way that aura in RWBY is said to be powered by the soul. Semblances are just a shittier version of HxH's Nen abilities. Nen even allows one to use their aura as a shield and to heal their bodies, just like aura can in RWBY. The Nen system of HxH is what RWBY's semblance system wishes it was.
I mean, that's the benefit of creating a power system that is incredibly malleable without coming off as just being a list of exceptions. Miles and Kerry will forever be trapped as talentless hacks imitating more talented people.
 
Miles and Kerry will forever be trapped as talentless hacks imitating more talented people.
Kerry has nice ideas if they are first ran through and, uh, visualized by an actual writer. Roman Holiday has him credited (alongside Eddy Rivas) for the "story", but it appears to be written by E.C. Myers, who while not having a very extensive writing history (slightly less than half of his literary history are RWBY novels), managed to make Kerry's ideas into a very nice story
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RWBY lore states that after the Great War, every Kingdom and its people started promoting the idea 24/7 that everyone is unique. But that is betrayed by the small amounts of diverse Semblances we see, and the ones we do see end up being common super hero powers, dime a dozen ones.
They, like a lot of what has been previously established by the early volumes, were clearly treated more like problems for the narrative to ignore rather than opportunities for creative action and storytelling. The fact that Ironwood's semblance was non-existent (saying it is basically just autistic hyper fixation at a con doesn't count) was criminal.

It clearly became something they just didn't really want to be bothered with, and that really blows.
but it literally never was of any use,
Volume 8 has them overcome an obstacle that only Ruby could by basically absorbing everyone else. I'd say her semblance is one of the better showcases, and I kind of wish the 'speed' element was dropped entirely for rose petal shenanigans.

Semblances always felt like something Miles and Kerry never got. In an action shonen anime wacky powers are a mainstay to keep action interesting
Every semblance is completely unique" line went out the window the minute we found out that semblances could be inherited
This was especially retarded because Weiss's glyphs were a much better and more unique power that nobody else used anyway. It should have just been her semblance.

Even worse, as soon as she unlocked summoning she stopped sword fighting at all so the animators could get lazy and just have her stand stock still while a much easier to animate knight swung his big sword around.

I fucking hate RWBY for real goddamn every element is so frustrating. I wish for a tenth season so badly.
 
Volume 8 has them overcome an obstacle that only Ruby could by basically absorbing everyone else.
Yes. Like I later clarified, it was useful exactly once. And that once usefulness initself was fucked, by not even having the decency to give Ruby the ability to figure out how her Semblance works.
 
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