RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[Useful_Mistake]

You'd have to consider opportunity cost, it has a dedicated built in fanbase and the early Volumes are still remembered somewhat fondly by the old fans. Plus it's a PR machine, most shows would be tickled absolutely pink to attract the sheer volume (no pun intended) of attention the RWBY regularly receives.

I've spoken my mind at this before. I don't believe the buy until I see it

 

[Gorillion others]

"Conversations are going very well to find RWBY a new home, we cannot share who just yet but we identified some great partners that would be a great home for it."

More news in the coming week. They are apparently keeping the writing team the same. Apparently getting someone to buy was not "hard", but also they haven't been bought yet either

https://twitter.com/StrangeDak/status/1783229176373186915/

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Taking bets. Some of the fans try to set their headquarters on fire if they don't vomit out Book 10 NOW!

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I've spoken my mind at this before. I don't believe the buy until I see it

Same, but I'm willing to believe someone picks it up for peanuts.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

Same writing staff? Yeah RWBY is done for. That's literally the most stupid choice they could have gone to. RWBY failed because of them.

And yes RWBY will be sold for peanuts. But peanuts by corporate standards is still a few million at the least

 

[Chilson]

Same writing staff? Yeah RWBY is done for. That's literally the most stupid choice they could have gone to. RWBY failed because of them.

And yes RWBY will be sold for peanuts. But peanuts by corporate standards is still a few million at the least

Its easy enough to put in headlines you have the original writers, then quietly get rid of them and replace them with someone else.

In most cases when this shit happens, the show turns to shit. Maybe it would be the opposite if the show was already shit.

 

[Trollblade69]

Its easy enough to put in headlines you have the original writers, then quietly get rid of them and replace them with someone else.

Why would you spend money to hire new writers when you can get goodwill press from keeping the old people?

 

[Chilson]

Why would you spend money to hire new writers when you can get goodwill press from keeping the old people?

You get the good will from initially hiring them, then cut them loose quietly to get your own writers you control or, if your optimistic, "better" writers in the writing room.

Its really not that hard.

 

[Gorillion others]

Same, but I'm willing to believe someone picks it up for peanuts.

Same writing staff? Yeah RWBY is done for. That's literally the most stupid choice they could have gone to. RWBY failed because of them.

And yes RWBY will be sold for peanuts. But peanuts by corporate standards is still a few million at the least

Its easy enough to put in headlines you have the original writers, then quietly get rid of them and replace them with someone else.

In most cases when this shit happens, the show turns to shit. Maybe it would be the opposite if the show was already shit.

Why would you spend money to hire new writers when you can get goodwill press from keeping the old people?

Guys, RWBY fucking failed because the people behind it are idiots, nepotistic, and copious amounts of degeneracy. I know I'm just jinxing it here, but Book 10 will never come out. At least not how the fans want. The cope has already reached entropy levels.

 

[blackjack101]

Surprised there was a RWBY thread, from my experience of the show, I flinched hard when that Jaune's older sister is a lesbian thing happened and then just dropped the series when they killed Adam too early and forced a lesbian couple ship with blake and yang because I think twitter and tumblr fags probably from their experiences of watching the ending of Korra made them force their ship to the writers to go that direction. It's not that I am anti-LGBT but I just don't think the direction RWBY was going was the same way Monty wanted it to go as the rest of the story being not legitimate.

Monty made Weiss fall for Neptune, Sun fall for Blake and I think he was setting up Yang for Mercury. They made Yang and Weiss look super straight checking out dudes in the locker room undressing until they saw Jaune. So when that Blake X Yang shit happened, it made me go WTF and say Monty did not write out like a final will of how the rest of the plot of the story would go.

Take Mercury as an example, his name sounds like a celestial body of the solar system so I predicted early in the story he would go traitor and meet up with Neptune and Sun because of their name relations in the story and some circumstances for plot reasons makes them a team. I think I got only the traitor part right when Mercury got his ass kicked by scorpion dude and that he should follow his own path.

I have not watched anything further when the Yang X Blake shit happened did the rest of the seasons get any better after that or no? I only dropped the story out of suspicion that woke retards ruined the rest of the story for me.

 

[Trollblade69]

You get the good will from initially hiring them, then cut them loose quietly to get your own writers you control or, if your optimistic, "better" writers in the writing room.

Its really not that hard.

Why would you ever pay severance to people you're paying pennies?

I know I'm just jinxing it here, but Book 10 will never come out. At least not how the fans want.

First, stop jinxing.
Second, what do the fans want? Anyone who wanted quality has stopped watching a long time ago.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

They'll for sure want profit numbers

Give me those viewership numbers, cowards. I don't care how much of it is a mangled mess that I'd need to sift through for hours to piece together, I would parse that data.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I have not watched anything further when the Yang X Blake shit happened did the rest of the seasons get any better after that or no?

Well, that depends on when the ship happened. It officially happened (kiss and everything) in Volume 9, the end of the series. It started getting pushed in a retarded way during Volume 7. In my opinion most of Vol 8 and 9 is better than 7, though 8 starts suuuuuuper bad (the start of 9 isn't great either)

 

[Tanner Glass]

I can see someone buying RWBY if they have some means of producing anime for non-retarded costs. RWBY's #1 problem was cost.

The animation was ungodly expensive (some pixar movies were cheaper to make).

I can also see keeping the writing team if you hire them as a writing team. The cost was insanely out of hand because Kerry and Miles (and Monty before them) weren't classes as "writers" - they were "writers", "producers", "showrunners", "voice actors" and "show directors" - pulling down $250,000/yr each or more from the back end. But if you just paid them for a few weeks of focused writing (and had a few new people on the team) - it wouldn't be paying half a million dollars for a year of complete dogshit.

The voice acting was also insanely expensive. Not hiring professionals or keeping amateurs in actual contracts made RWBY worse and more expensive then paying some professionals a few thousand dollars. The absolute worst was when Cinder (arguably the main villain and most important character to Ruby) just couldn't be scheduled to do voice acting (because they're just some old cosplay whore) and they had to have an important character just not speak. Yang's VA is also a director at the company pulling down a director's salary who also inexplicably has an onlyfans.

Having a real voice director and real VAs would actually drive the cost down and the quality up. Same with the animation team and the writing team. I still don't see who would have access to all of those things that wouldn't rather just make a new IP but maybe they're not asking that much for RWBY behind closed doors.

 

[Trollblade69]

The animation was ungodly expensive (some pixar movies were cheaper to make).

Citation needed. I keep having expectations that a lot of the animation was paid in exposure, and sometimes just weren't paid period.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Citation needed. I keep having expectations that a lot of the animation was paid in exposure, and sometimes just weren't paid period.

Creative director at Rooster Teeth claimed that the animation was costing $25,000-$35,000 per minute for RWBY

 

[The Nothingness]

Having a real voice director and real VAs would actually drive the cost down and the quality up.

They had one in Vic Mignogna until he was thrown under the bus.

 

[Random Internet Person]

They had one in Vic Mignogna until he was thrown under the bus.

They brought in Yuri Lowenthal to play Mercury after Monty died. And they had Christina Vee as Robyn Hill. And Elizabeth Maxwell as Winter. And Caitlin Glass as Willow. And a chick from My Hero Academia as Summer Rose. And Chris Sabat as Watts. And Josh Grelle as Tyrian. And Monica Rial as Sienna Khan. And the chick who plays Cortana as Salem. And that’s just off the top of my head.

"Conversations are going very well to find RWBY a new home, we cannot share who just yet but we identified some great partners that would be a great home for it."

More news in the coming week. They are apparently keeping the writing team the same. Apparently getting someone to buy was not "hard", but also they haven't been bought yet either

https://twitter.com/StrangeDak/status/1783229176373186915/

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And after exactly one season, whoever's bought them will realize they bought a lemon.

They'll for sure want profit numbers when discussing the buy, and I can't see anyone buying something that the team behind it consistently claims makes no profit and suffers massive losses

You'd have to consider opportunity cost, it has a dedicated built in fanbase and the early Volumes are still remembered somewhat fondly by the old fans. Plus it's a PR machine, most shows would be tickled absolutely pink to attract the sheer volume (no pun intended) of attention the RWBY regularly receives.

Since things are going on behind closed doors, I have to wonder if this is A. A complete reboot or B. Just a way to air the remaining material from V10 onwards to get a proper conclusion because like Mindy Kaling’s Velma, it’s probably easier to just honor the contractual obligations and then forget it ever happened once things are over and done with.

Considering the talk is keeping writers, my money is on the latter.

 

[Trollblade69]

They brought in Yuri Lowenthal to play Mercury after Monty died. And they had Christina Vee as Robyn Hill. And Elizabeth Maxwell as Winter. And Caitlin Glass as Willow. And a chick from My Hero Academia as Summer Rose. And that’s just off the top of my head.

It pisses me off how much money they blew on Guild talent. Burning everything on flexing and not caring about the actual product.

I also remember them getting Aaron Dismuke, Kent Williams, Cherami Leigh, Madame Kickvic, and that huge list of people they kidnapped for Genlock like David Tenant, Dakota Fanning, Maisie Williams, and the seiyuu for Japanese Spike from Cowboy Bebop.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

I can also see keeping the writing team if you hire them as a writing team. The cost was insanely out of hand because Kerry and Miles (and Monty before them) weren't classes as "writers" - they were "writers", "producers", "showrunners", "voice actors" and "show directors" - pulling down $250,000/yr each or more from the back end. But if you just paid them for a few weeks of focused writing (and had a few new people on the team) - it wouldn't be paying half a million dollars for a year of complete dogshit.

Yeah, sorry, but I gotta disagree on that one. You are understimating how important the story is to the success of a cartoon like this one.

RWBY’s #1 problem was surprisingly not how expensive it was to make, as ridiculous as that expense was. It is and always was the writting. Yes everything suffered due too por money management. But the writting is what steers the ship.

If, at least, the story was good, even with the ridiculous expenses, RT would still be around. Because at least people would still be buying merch, buying games, and watching it in droves. They would even have had that Fortnite crossover. But nobody is demanding more of it outside The RT circle jerk.

Besides RWBY is not that complex to need “a team of writers”. Too many cooks spoil the soup. That really only would, kinda, make sense If they made a normal anime Saeason worth of content. Which it never did. Not counting the filler “world building” btw.

The money problem can be solved easily if the new RWBY owners are Mildy competent at management. But that won’t help them even if Pixar themselves did the animation for free, for them, if the story keeps being terrible. And no, “adding a couple of writers” won’t help if Miles and Kerry still get to keep the final say.

Tl;dr It really doesn’t matter if RWBY becomes cheap to make, and is animated with pretty graphics, if Miles and Kerry keep writing terrible crap. The story as they left it is a mess that an only be fixed with a hard reboot.

They are giving the keys to the car to the same guys that crashed it the last time.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Citation needed. I keep having expectations that a lot of the animation was paid in exposure, and sometimes just weren't paid period.

Creative director at Rooster Teeth claimed that the animation was costing $25,000-$35,000 per minute for RWBY

For comparison (if we assume 30k/minute) - the most known expensive anime you could compare it to is Dragonball Super at roughly $6,100/minute - and it's pretty obvious which one looks better. Alternatively, Attack on Titan ($5,400/minute) or My Hero Academia ($4,000/minute) are other comparison points.

$30,000 a minute put it in a category all it's own closer to movies then other anime shows.

They brought in Yuri Lowenthal to play Mercury after Monty died. And they had Christina Vee as Robyn Hill. And Elizabeth Maxwell as Winter. And Caitlin Glass as Willow. And a chick from My Hero Academia as Summer Rose. And Chris Sabat as Watts. And Josh Grelle as Tyrian. And Monica Rial as Sienna Khan. And the chick who plays Cortana as Salem. And that’s just off the top of my head.

The main cast - Ruby, Weiss, Blake, and Yang are all amateurs. This extends out to Torchwick, Cinder, Miles, Ren, Adam, Raven, Neptune, Sun, and Jaune - which are all vital roles and important characters.

Compounding that is the amount of input the amateur VAs are allowed to have on the characters themselves - with bumblebee being pushed as a ship because Barbara and Arryn are into it or Juane taking center stage at times during an already bloated show.

There are tons of characters voiced by more amateurs that are just bit parts, cameos, whatever, but their main core is "people who work here and some of their friends" when having it be actual professionals would be ideal.

RWBY’s #1 problem was surprisingly not how expensive it was to make, as ridiculous as that expense was. It is and always was the writting. Yes everything suffered due too por money management. But the writting is what steers the ship.

If, at least, the story was good, even with the ridiculous expenses, RT would still be around. Because at least people would still be buying merch, buying games, and watching it in droves. They would even have had that Fortnite crossover. But nobody is demanding more of it outside The RT circle jerk.

I get what you're saying - but RWBY never had "great" writing and found an audience. It's fine to be a small/mediocre anime with a small/mediocre audience if your expenses match that. Most people in this tread like RWBY but I don't think any of us would call it great but interesting. Having a few real writers would help drastically.