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....What the fuck.....thank god that didn't happen, Neo has the best VA of the entire cast.
RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future
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I mean if we are going personality wise, then yes, Miles is infinitely worse, and I know next to nothing about Eddy Rivas or Kiersi Burkhart to make any sound judgements on them. But in terms of writing this season, Kerry's the weakest of the lot. Especially since this episode wastes half its runtime on a backstory that's way too late in the game and has Cinder get off lightly for disobeying her boss- an evil genocidal overlord. All while also begging the question of why weren't Emerald or Neo get punished considering Salem probably told all of her goons to stay aboard the whale and not just Cinder. And even if it was just Cinder she aimed it too, they did assist her after all being her remaining subordinantes now that Merc's been promoted. The only good thing about it was the ending, and that's only because shit's going down and I want to see what comes of it before the hiatus.
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I'm happy that I'm not the only one who hated that song. Seriously, it's worse than Disney songs, in terms of not just subtlety, but it also sounds ass.
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Maybe they're going for a mirror of Ironwood and his honestly loyal subordinates, or for Ironwood and RWBY? They've been desperatly attempting to have themes of loyalty and trust this volume so it doesn't really come out of nowhere. Just (like...basically everything else about the themes) handled it kind of poorly and are unlikely to get a pay off.
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Well, all of the songs that we’ve heard in this show sound like they came from Casey’s MySpace page, regardless if they were be formed by Jeff, Casey, or whoever the fuck. I ain’t expecting John Williams or Hans Zimmer, but every part of RWBY soundtrack has felt the same from day one
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I agree, it's the same buttmetal every fucking time. I also don't expect a god tier OST, but get some instrumental once in a while so we can feel the fight more. I swear, there'll be some rescore of some scenes if I checked on YT & they'll probably be better.
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Ngl when Cinder's stepmother pulled out the remote control for the shock collar I started fucking laughing. She's cartoonishly evil. She must be rich af and yet she bothers going to a shitty orphanage to pick out a single child? Don't think that's how human trafficking works, fam. If I were her I wouldn't want some dirty beggar child risking the image of my whole establishment. At the same time I don't think they understand how horrific they made her - this is a woman willing to use shock collar on a child.
No offence to Casey, she is never off-pitch but listening to her is like waiting for her vocal chords to give at any second. She's skilled, she's been trained, but every single song makes me think "this sound much better if it was sung by someone else". No matter what genre the track is, she always sounds like a nasally teenager and something tells me all the constant high range belting she has to do for RWBY is gonna catch up with her in a bad way.
Cinder's past makes her look like even more of a psycho bitch. First thing she does is lunge at a boy in the orphanage who isn't fighting back all that hard, another taller boy does throw her off but that's it. The Huntsman correctly senses that she wants to hurt her foster family,calls her out for it and he barely even knows her. His warning implies the lesson she should be learning right now: that her obsession with revenge will be nothing but destructive, she's making herself an unwanted pariah forever. But Cinder's character evidently revolves around being a hotheaded retard so she ignores him. I think the training montage was supposed to be uplifting before revealing the twist but since this is Cinder it's really obvious she just wants to get her superpowers so she can kill people already.
"I don't have to run now." Who thought this was a good line? Because it's not, let me tell you why. Cinder, you haven't been running from anything (not at this point). You were trapped by your foster family. The vast majority of real captive victims would fucking love to able to run away from their situation, they want escape and to exist in a place of safety. All you want is to lash out with zero consequences and it looks like you've been that way even before you were rehomed.
RWBY has aspects that are good in isolation and some great lines on occasion (I loved Nora and Blake's small exchange in episode 3) but the shit souffle when it's all together baffles me. The Huntsman told Cinder the aesop she needs to learn before she ever committed her mistakes. She proceeds to make them after ignoring him and drops that bizarre line over the 3 corpses she just made. All of this takes place in her childhood before several Volumes of willingly serving to an even crueler master; all of this, in a flashback within the first half of this episode before they spend the second half drawing the parallel between Salem and the stepmother... the episode after Cinder already went rogue. Finally, here she is, bowing before Salem once again who fries her arm as punishment then offers a hand to 'raise her up' within 10 seconds of each other, because Salem's is SUCH a manipulative chessmaster! And she takes the offer without hesitation. All the plot points before this one led me to believe Cinder would eventually turn against Salem but now, for it to make sense to me, I have to assume she somehow (still) thinks Salem is her best option? It's so confusing looking at something that resembles a character arc but the pieces are all out of order and everyone is contradictory or acting plain stupid. That Huntsman in her flashback has a serious message for who she is today but he feels more like an after thought - because you know what we were meant to focus on was that Cinder suffered,, wah angsty past.
I am really tempted to make another post rewriting it in the way I'd see fit but fuck wasting effort on RWBY fanfiction for a New Zealand agriculture forum.
"I don't have to run now." Who thought this was a good line? Because it's not, let me tell you why. Cinder, you haven't been running from anything (not at this point). You were trapped by your foster family. The vast majority of real captive victims would fucking love to able to run away from their situation, they want escape and to exist in a place of safety. All you want is to lash out with zero consequences and it looks like you've been that way even before you were rehomed.
RWBY has aspects that are good in isolation and some great lines on occasion (I loved Nora and Blake's small exchange in episode 3) but the shit souffle when it's all together baffles me. The Huntsman told Cinder the aesop she needs to learn before she ever committed her mistakes. She proceeds to make them after ignoring him and drops that bizarre line over the 3 corpses she just made. All of this takes place in her childhood before several Volumes of willingly serving to an even crueler master; all of this, in a flashback within the first half of this episode before they spend the second half drawing the parallel between Salem and the stepmother... the episode after Cinder already went rogue. Finally, here she is, bowing before Salem once again who fries her arm as punishment then offers a hand to 'raise her up' within 10 seconds of each other, because Salem's is SUCH a manipulative chessmaster! And she takes the offer without hesitation. All the plot points before this one led me to believe Cinder would eventually turn against Salem but now, for it to make sense to me, I have to assume she somehow (still) thinks Salem is her best option? It's so confusing looking at something that resembles a character arc but the pieces are all out of order and everyone is contradictory or acting plain stupid. That Huntsman in her flashback has a serious message for who she is today but he feels more like an after thought - because you know what we were meant to focus on was that Cinder suffered,, wah angsty past.
I am really tempted to make another post rewriting it in the way I'd see fit but fuck wasting effort on RWBY fanfiction for a New Zealand agriculture forum.
For being rock, their music always sounds... safe.
No offence to Casey, she is never off-pitch but listening to her is like waiting for her vocal chords to give at any second. She's skilled, she's been trained, but every single song makes me think "this sound much better if it was sung by someone else". No matter what genre the track is, she always sounds like a nasally teenager and something tells me all the constant high range belting she has to do for RWBY is gonna catch up with her in a bad way.
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You act as if this show knows any other kind of evil.
Have you ever considered fanfiction.net or AO3?
Why do you think I brought up MySpace?
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I was thinking more that Salem was probably going to throw Cinder away after the whole "I've been holding you back all this time...
". If they were trying to mirror Ironwood and his loyal subordinates, were they going for a "fear vs. trust" theme? Because Salem's subordinates aren't exactly afraid of her (apart from maybe failing missions) - she didn't threaten them to join her side, I don't think she holds any sort of information over them either. None of them have a really good motivation to be on her side either. Cinder is all "I want power and I'm so evil!!". Emerald and Mercury just kind of followed her there. Hazel's motivations are primarily focused around getting revenge for his sister, Watts is there because Atlas rejected him, and we know nothing about Tyrian's reasons for being there.
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I was thinking more that Salem was probably going to throw Cinder away after the whole "I've been holding you back all this time...
If they were trying to mirror Ironwood and his loyal subordinates, were they going for a "fear vs. trust" theme? Because Salem's subordinates aren't exactly afraid of her (apart from maybe failing missions) - she didn't threaten them to join her side, I don't think she holds any sort of information over them either. None of them have a really good motivation to be on her side either. Cinder is all "I want power and I'm so evil!!". Emerald and Mercury just kind of followed her there. Hazel's motivations are primarily focused around getting revenge for his sister, Watts is there because Atlas rejected him, and we know nothing about Tyrian's reasons for being there.
Maybe? I don't really think so though. There is some contrast in Ironwood giving them orders that they obey unquestioningly and Salem giving orders that are promptly ignored, but it feels like they're trying to make the unquestioning loyalty out to be a bad thing rather than the results of the Ass-Ops rewarding Ironwood for building their trust.
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I was thinking more that Salem was probably going to throw Cinder away after the whole "I've been holding you back all this time...
If they were trying to mirror Ironwood and his loyal subordinates, were they going for a "fear vs. trust" theme? Because Salem's subordinates aren't exactly afraid of her (apart from maybe failing missions) - she didn't threaten them to join her side, I don't think she holds any sort of information over them either. None of them have a really good motivation to be on her side either. Cinder is all "I want power and I'm so evil!!". Emerald and Mercury just kind of followed her there. Hazel's motivations are primarily focused around getting revenge for his sister, Watts is there because Atlas rejected him, and we know nothing about Tyrian's reasons for being there.
My thinking was that Salem was making it so Cinder would be put into a position where there'd be no excuses if she failed. Everything is perfectly set up, and she probably forgave Cinder for going rogue since it ended with her gaining the relic. It took learning of Haven's failure for her to get more directly involved.
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It’s not like I’ve never heard of them, I just never feel the need to make fan content for some reason, not even fanart of characters I adored (was a drawfag). Like, if I’m going that far I’d rather use my own material without being constrained by canon.
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"The fundemental problem with the vast majority of praise in the #RWBY fandom is it's based solely on being as toxic as possible. 90% of the show's self-proclaimed ""fans""" don't care what the story gives them, because that's not important. They'll love it regardless " - Fuck I did it wrong. Mine is actually true.
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Are you sure about that? That assumes they are smart enough to get reasonably skilled and priced VAs, let alone direct them properly.
In Gen:Lock all that licensing 'real voice actors' did was end up costing them out the ass.
As for whether or not the finale is coming up, I feel that, like a lot of these shows, once you start moving towards the finale you incidentally make it clear that you've done all you're going to, and it's going to become clear that you no longer have time to pay off all your potential-baiting.
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Now that I'm actually looking at it, and the way this limpwristed soy guzzler is "advertising" it, I'd rather spend my money on groceries.
"Makes me feel small".
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It's such a generic compliment that can apply to any story beat "This story is important to abuse survivors because the heroes winning tells us that other people can win in their situation too."
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He just kind of showed up into a plot where he was completely irrelevant after his story was already done with, after his character had already gone through enough changes to be unrecognizable and reduced to "stalker dude", after his victim let him go knowing that he was totally going to murder more people, after getting nerfed so that characters he previously ROFLstomped can now manage to beat him, and after murdering several Atlas soldiers because team RWBY distracted them (as a preview for the next ark!). The only thing you could really praise about the whole thing without being silly is the fight itself.
Like just the choreography part. Nothing else makes sense. There isn't any leadup or payoff.