Dramacow Ryulong / Michael Cohen - Fanatic Wikisperg, Anti-Gamergater and All Around Asshole

[AnOminous]

Is this the guy that got fired for spending all day at work edit warring inside of you know, working? Or I am thinking of someone else?

He's probably not the only guy ever to get fired for that, but yes, he's one of those guys.

 

[Cynical]

The sheer amount of whiteknighting and explaining away SJW bullshit is absurd, but typical for Cohen:

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aneris&diff=1562699&oldid=1562698

 

[Optimus Prime]

The sheer amount of whiteknighting and explaining away SJW bullshit is absurd, but typical for Cohen:

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aneris&diff=1562699&oldid=1562698

Jesus H Christ

Trigger warnings are not a fucking thing. HOW did they become a thing, anyway?!

 

[Hellfire]

The sheer amount of whiteknighting and explaining away SJW bullshit is absurd, but typical for Cohen:

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aneris&diff=1562699&oldid=1562698

The Adam and Michael tag team.

Aneris is the person Cohen couldn't stop himself from coming back to RW to scream at when he tried to LANCB (leave and never come back).

Cohen tried to Chicken coop Aneris and it was closed without action. Cohen was trying to convince others that Aneris isn't "sane" enough to have sysop on RW.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Chicken_coop&oldid=1562573#Aneris

They're a GG nutter who's rallying against what they perceive as an intractable SJW influence on this website. Which they says on their user page.—Ryulong (talk) 20:09, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Cool? WalkerWalkerWalker 20:14, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

That seems to be "not sane" with regards to anything here. That and their insistence that one person being doxxed by "SJWs" is enough to have them listed on doxing along with ED and GG.—Ryulong (talk) 20:19, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

 

[Hellfire]

Mikey and Adam continue to spill their spaghetti and get BTFO by the brony.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paravant&diff=prev&oldid=1564056

Modlocking pages isn't vindictive? Ok.—Ryulong (talk) 23:16, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

I am a very vindictive person, it is a major flaw in my personality, but I would never be so brazenly crass as to abuse powers to go about getting revenge. So no, those are not me going against you in some anger about Bronys. That is me deciding I am tired of your shit and desire to own the Gamergate page and any others you decide to imprint yourself on. The brony nonsense was just what made me tip from passive dislike of you to active dislike because you decided to openly turn a RW article about a show into a hitpiece on its fandom because of a dislike of some of the fans.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 23:21, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gooniepunk&diff=prev&oldid=1564034

Also it would be nice if someone didn't keep harassing me via the tools.—Ryulong (talk) 22:26, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Harassment is a strong word for "not putting up with your whining that your own stupidity caused nobody to like you". Stop bothering Goonie. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 22:27, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

If I pulled any of the shit you're doing with specious reasoning behind it there'd be a coop case threatening to take my sysop away again.—Ryulong (talk) 23:01, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

That's what happens when 1) you're wrong/i'm right in usage and 2) you alienate everybody on a website by being an idiot. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 23:05, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Adam is also sperging over Buddyloids/Ryulong on Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kamen_Rider_×_Super_Sentai:_Super_Hero_Taisen

The "Buddyloid" issue has been long resolved and the only people still fighting against it are trolls.

See: Final discussion thread that reached a consensus here: Talk:Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters#Final statement on Vaglass, Buddyloid, and Metaloid. The site is being brigaded from external sources such as Reddit because there is a mob out there who are targeting this as a way to say "Fuck you" to a person they disagree with, as he is no longer around to defend himself. The consensus was finalized without the person they're targeting's involvement, and thus I feel the issue is separate from him. - Kitsunelaine [Beware. The foxgirls are coming.] 05:45, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

Adam is also sperging over Buddyloids/Ryulong on Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kamen_Rider_×_Super_Sentai:_Super_Hero_Taisen

The "Buddyloid" issue has been long resolved and the only people still fighting against it are trolls.

See: Final discussion thread that reached a consensus here: Talk:Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters#Final statement on Vaglass, Buddyloid, and Metaloid. The site is being brigaded from external sources such as Reddit because there is a mob out there who are targeting this as a way to say "Fuck you" to a person they disagree with, as he is no longer around to defend himself. The consensus was finalized without the person they're targeting's involvement, and thus I feel the issue is separate from him. - Kitsunelaine [Beware. The foxgirls are coming.] 05:45, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

It gets better. On this page he changed every instance of "Gold" to "Gord" because of that argument.

 

[Hellfire]

Cohen is flipping out after fighting over Gamergate fan art and getting desysop'd and vandal binned for revert warring over the pictures.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong#Vandal_bin

This is extreme. I've just sent a private message off to the person who created the comic on Reddit to ask for their permission to use it on the site. Undo all this shit, Mona. You could have just stopped at the desysop but no. Removing autopatrol and vandalbinning. Now I can't even respond to you properly because you've made it so I can only edit once every 30 fucking minutes and after solving a captcha. No one else gets this fucking treatment on this website. AND THERE'S NEVER A FUCKING COOP CASE.—Ryulong (talk) 23:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Do it again, and I'll de-mop and VB you again.---Mona- (talk) 23:49, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I'll do it when pixelotl says we can use the drawing.—Ryulong (talk) 23:49, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

See, thats your problem though Ryu, you do things before knowing you can. "Wait until we get sued" "ask AFTER using it if we can use it", thats not how it works. Stop. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 23:50, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

"They wouldn't bother suing us" is not a valid excuse. We banned somebody for a year because they were putting the wiki in legal danger, the only reason you aren't either is because David defends you. Remember that, just David and anybody you convince to come here, nobody else. Think on why this is true for a moment, we clearly all can't be rabid GGers or Bronys or other people you've angered for striking at our beliefs.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 23:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

What does it fucking matter if it's on my fucking user page? And I don't fucking know why no one likes me. You hate me because I called your fandom a bunch of entitled ableist pedo horsefuckers when trying to convey the general feeling the rest of the Internet has towards the fandom. AgingHippie hates my writing. Carpetsmoker and -Mona- are on my case presently because the copyright concerns of this stick figure drawing are really fucking important. Arisboch and Tielec01 are the local "enlightened" libertarians. Gooniepunk has no beef AFAIK. That pretty much covers everyone. Meanwhile Castaigne got scared off because of talk page bullshit that he didn't feel like dealing with this place anymore.—Ryulong (talk) 00:24, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

The more you say it the less true it becomes. And Castaigne left because he was an idiot who got mad when he couldn't get his unilateral decision to stick, after throwing multiple tantrums just like it in the past, not because of talk page discussions.--00:27, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Also: blocked proxy ranges, no one ever said anything about no long term blocks on obvious bad faith trolls, and that MLP bullshit was only last month so that doesn't explain why no one liked me before then and the page still faces all of the propagandist problems it did before without acknowleding any actual criticism the fans get for their ingrained MRA-esque streak that other fans claim is unfair gender-based discrimination on liking a show for little girls.—Ryulong (talk) 00:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Defiant to the end that you make no mistakes. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 00:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

You threw out every fucking source I posted to back up my claim.—Ryulong (talk) 00:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Because they weren't good sources. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 00:46, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

(ec)I alternate between trying to help you become a better editor and cause (& deal with) less shit so you can be a happy part of the community, and finding you an insufferable asshole. So far, I have never had the feeling you took anything I said seriously, so perhaps it's time to give and just accept that you're an insufferable asshole. Carpetsmoker (talk) 00:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

 

[Cynical]

Cohen is flipping out after fighting over Gamergate fan art and getting desysop'd and vandal binned for revert warring over the pictures.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong#Vandal_bin

His Wikipedia history is repeating itself.

 

[Hellfire]

Ryulong admits he is an asshole and that he can't fix his behavior.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong#Dude...

I'm just so burned out of these things and I obviously burn too many bridges in the process so maybe you're right. I'm an asshole. I alienate people without even trying. I'm a horrible human being and I shouldn't bother contributing to this website or any other anymore.—Ryulong (talk) 00:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

(ec)Jeez man, less of the passive-aggressive pleas. So many people here have been so reasonable for so long in trying to explain shit to you, that is not an appropriate response. --TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 00:56, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

@Ryu, put up or shut up, then. We need less users going "oh I won't do x anymore" and then doing x still.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 01:01, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I honestly don't know what to do anymore. I obviously can't fix my behavior despite all of the apparent attempts everyone's made to try to direct me into the "right" direction. It didn't help after 9 years on Wikipedia and it's not going to help after a year on RationalWiki.—Ryulong (talk) 01:05, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Actually try and fix that behavior instead of ignoring them? Stop thinking you've done no wrong and that you're being persecuted unfairly? Not be obsessed over editing fucking wikis? --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 01:08, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Ok.—Ryulong (talk) 01:10, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

"They wouldn't bother suing us" is not a valid excuse.We banned somebody for a year because they were putting the wiki in legal danger, the only reason you aren't either is because David defends you. Remember that, just David and anybody you convince to come here, nobody else. Think on why this is true for a moment, we clearly all can't be rabid GGers or Bronys or other people you've angered for striking at our beliefs.--"Paravant"Talk & Contribs 23:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

(emphasis added)

Again they forget about the toku nerds. No one ever gives a shit about the first group Ryulong alienated. Hell, I'm a little surprised that no one seems to bring up that Ryulong got run out of 4chan because he pissed off so many people on /m/. How does that even happen, especially when you can just remove the trip?

 

[AnOminous]

(emphasis added)

Again they forget about the toku nerds. No one ever gives a shit about the first group Ryulong alienated. Hell, I'm a little surprised that no one seems to bring up that Ryulong got run out of 4chan because he pissed off so many people on /m/. How does that even happen, especially when you can just remove the trip?

There's something seriously mentally wrong with tripfags. They are addicted to negative attention.

 

[The Colonel]

So how long before Cohen ends up shooting up a local school?

 

[kcbbq]

So how long before Cohen ends up shooting up a local school?

Too lazy to leave his room. He's like a shut in wizard, excep instead of lashing out at a strawman caricature of women he lashes out at people who like things other than what his autistic brand loyalty says is good.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

This fuck-tard can't get along anywhere, every community he joins he is ultimately thrown out of.

The reason?

He's an asshole pure and simple. What a lonely life he must lead

 

[Executive Impact]

So how long before Cohen ends up shooting up a local school?

He's more likely to attack a Brony convention, but I doubt he's a danger to anyone other than himself.

He lives an unfortunate existence, but he's too much of a prick to have sympathy for.

 

[Optimus Prime]

So, apparently Ryulong flipped his shit about something involving photos related to GamerGate, repeatedly reverting the edits of others to assert his version as is the norm, but this time one of the RW mods decided enough was enough and both removed is sysop permissions AND threw him into something called the "Vandal Bin"

Literally his entire talk page has become coated in this, I'll leave it to others to pick out the juiciest bits but essentially Ruylong got his shit kicked in all because he doesn't understand fair use laws.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong

 

[Cynical]

So, apparently Ryulong flipped his shit about something involving photos related to GamerGate, repeatedly reverting the edits of others to assert his version as is the norm, but this time one of the RW mods decided enough was enough and both removed is sysop permissions AND threw him into something called the "Vandal Bin"

Literally his entire talk page has become coated in this, I'll leave it to others to pick out the juiciest bits but essentially Ruylong got his shit kicked in all because he doesn't understand fair use laws.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong

The Vandal Bin is a RW specific extension that spaces out the time vandals can make edits. It's supposed to frustrate them into throwing up their hands and finding something else to do with their time.

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

I'll leave it to others to pick out the juiciest bits

@Hellfire already did, five days ago. It was only seven posts before yours. Do you make any attempts to read the thread before you post?

 

[AnOminous]

@Hellfire already did, five days ago. It was only seven posts before yours. Do you make any attempts to read the thread before you post?

The fair use stuff is really bad, though, and he didn't quote that stuff.

This is just awful. Ryulong completely doesn't understand, or refuses to understand, the subject.

This has to be taken seriously, you know. There is a real legal issue here.---Mona- (talk) 22:04, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Educational and parody requirements are both met.—Ryulong (talk) 22:37, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
No.---Mona- (talk) 22:39, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Fair use firstly requires that there is an educational use for the image that does not detract from its copyright status. The image in question accompanies descriptive text of the design of the character as well as the message that the caption within it insists. Fair use is met, Bubbe.—Ryulong (talk) 23:32, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
So now we're having this discussion on 2 talk pages? Fair use is murky, and the "fair use" of these images is borderline at best. That applies to the entire first row of Vivian James artwork. As said before, I don't think it is, but I'm willing to accept that it's "grey enough" to allow it...
The second row, by the way, is blatantly not fair use. As here's it's not art created by GG supporters, but by its detractors. So your "parody" claim crashes even harder.Carpetsmoker (talk) 05:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Their art is act of parody though. And the messages within the art are described in the accompanying text.—Ryulong (talk) 06:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

The short of this is that Ryulong apparently believes that if something is a parody, you're just allowed to rip it off, which is so fucked up it's not even wrong. I think this is so obvious I don't even need to explain it, but the fair use defense is something the parodist would have as a defense against the owner of the work being parodied.

It is absolutely not a defense if you rip off the parody outright.

Also, if you do Wikis at all, and Cohen has been on TOW for long enough to know this, generally Wikipedia rules are vastly more strict than simply having a defensible fair use, because Wikipedia doesn't want to litigate fair use.

So unless the use is absolutely clearly within the law, Wikipedia is going to err toward safety, not toward pushing the boundaries. Unless RationalWiki are absolute morons (and as dumb as they are they do not seem that crazy), they are going to follow a similar policy, and the arguments of the non-crazies against Ryulong here seem to be going in that direction.

Basically, Cohen is acting like a fucking nut, not that that's anything new, but it's on an issue where even he should really know better. I think he's going off the deep end.

 

[RepQuest]

It's supposed to frustrate them into throwing up their hands and finding something else to do with their time.

Which is totally going to work with our dear friend Ryulong.