s&box - Spiritual successor to Garry's Mod.

[Judge Dredd]

Oh yeah by the way this game already has a whole group of "investors" in the items like CS2 does

It's a large part of the "community". Supposedly they're losing money, but I've yet to see real evidence of that.

There's also complaints that games can include the payed cosmetic by default. eg. Some games have the option to equip a free version of the cardboard crown in their game. It doesn't transfer to other games, but it's basically the same cosmetic item.

 

[Coolio55]

Garry saw the gmod cosmetics autism and knew that he needed to get a piece of the pie.

 

[Fucker Carlson]

I wonder if this game will end up being big enough to get its own underage technically-legal gambling sites like Rust has

 

[sodaboard]

majority of the steam reviews are saying it's just roblox but worse and how fugly the thumb sausages are. it also has only basic bitch gamemodes for now like sandbox, not-TTT and some vampire survivors clone. they're way too late to the party for games like this and i don't think anyone who plays gmod is gonna drop it for this, as jank as it's become over the past 20 years

 

[FunkTism]

Oh yeah by the way this game already has a whole group of "investors" in the items like CS2 does

Ugh

REMEMBER THe FuNNY $100 CardBOArd CRown HAt is just a J0ke! GuYS!
(I'm totally not hoping for another CSGO / CS2 skin (nft-lite) market to jump on early.)

STOP COMPLAINING! HOW ELSE ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE MONEY ON A PAID GAME!

 

[Enig]

So amidst this game's embarassing dud of a launch, someone found out that within the past three days Garry hid a blogpost he made a decade ago about jacking off with a VR headset on.

I jacked off in VR, twice
10 Years Ago, 14,889 views
I remember years ago I was in a chat room talking to a friend about porn. He told me that he only wanks to video porn, and pictures don’t do it for him. This was in the days when it took 4 hours to download a video. I thought to myself, what a snobby cunt.

And obviously in time, he was right. Who wanks to photos anymore? I mean, sure it’s do-able – but why would you? I think it’s going to be the same for VR Porn real soon.

I managed to get VR porn working on my vive this week, having failed in all my attempts previously. It turned out to be pretty simple. Just download the SteamVR version of Whirligig, get some VR porn, jack in and jack off.

Eye Contact​

You know how sometimes you’re walking down the street and a stranger looks at you in the eyes, and you momentarily think “fuck”, before one of you quickly looks somewhere else. VR porn gives me that feeling. It’s really unsettling at first until your brain convinces itself it’s a video.

Role reversal​

I experienced what it’s like to be licked out by a man, and then later squirt about 3 pints of clear liquid on his back. You might have thought that you could imagine this stuff previously, but now you can actually experience it. It’s unsettling at first, but then you can convince your brain that it’s fine, that you’re louis theroux investigating something, and then it’s all ok.

Mess​

Have you ever jacked off and then not looked at where the cum is going. Maybe when you were younger, into a sock. But nowadays you probably ejaculate into a tissue or toilet roll. Ejaculating into toilet roll blindfolded is something you’re going to have to get good at – because if you’re not you’re going to be throwing a lot of fish smelling keyboards away.

Why do I care?​

I like jacking off. It’s a part of my life. This is the first time I’ve seen something in VR that could genuinely enhance my day to day life. This proves that there’s a use for it. And that makes me really happy, and really excited for the future.

Remember things like this next time you see someone call this a Roblox killer, because if Roblox dies all the creeps gotta go somewhere and Garry ain't exactly the type to refuse it seems.

 

[Nagato Kai Ni Surigao]

Gmod like experience without the jank

then what the fuck is even the point

 

[catpetter]

I remember logging into Steam a few weeks ago, having a heart attack because I saw "You have an account alert", then realising it's just the s&box beta being taken away from me.
I hadn't played the game in months (maybe even a year?) so I'm not surprised that I didn't keep it, although I felt a bit upset because I remember getting it from an invite key from someone and being excited about it.

 

[dickroach]

Garry hid a blogpost he made a decade ago about jacking off with a VR headset on

 

[Judge Dredd]

Interesting naysayer video. Yes, there's some of the usual "the game needs a unified art style, but no sausage people!" type stuff. But there is some legit criticisms from a developer side.

One idea hit me during the video. Why does S&Box use modern high res textures, high poly models, etc.? It should use something simpiler, easier to work with. Something like a 90s or perhaps 2000s era aesthetic. I know PSX style is hated on KF and the chans as being "troon shit", but it's widely used for a reason.

 

[Lasagna4Dead]

One idea hit me during the video. Why does S&Box use modern high res textures, high poly models, etc.? It should use something simpiler, easier to work with. Something like a 90s or perhaps 2000s era aesthetic.

It pisses me off that they could have used literally anything else as a player model but instead decided it was really important to have the most simplistic style possible. Even nintendo miis had more soul than this, whatever frees up the release window I guess.

I'm gonna come back to this game in at least 3 months. If it takes them that long to fix all of the bullshit that will be so depressing.

 

[Nameless One]

One idea hit me during the video. Why does S&Box use modern high res textures, high poly models, etc.? It should use something simpiler, easier to work with. Something like a 90s or perhaps 2000s era aesthetic. I know PSX style is hated on KF and the chans as being "troon shit", but it's widely used for a reason.

You don't understand shit about texture work.
I thought you made video games???

The tranny PSX aesthetic still takes up way too much space even if it looks low resolution because every modern developer seemingly cannot fathom COMPRESSING YOUR FUCKIN TEXTURES.


I will explain, you can have modern high res looking textures and everything with the bells and whistles so long as you have good looking alphas and bump maps. There should always be options and variety to your texture work, especially when dealing with PC games.

Tranny PSX style games are still a lot chunkier than they need to be because all the dev does is jack off in Blender and fuck around with textures then imports them without that crucial compression method older devs used. And you'll have a pretty shit looking texture end up taking up like hundreds of megabytes. This is why a lot of games even shit ones end up being more than 18 gigabytes despite being short, devoid of content, etc.

It's also a matter of the engine used I guess.

Aesthetic means nothing when it comes to optimization and compression. Something devs, maybe even you...? Can't wrap your little heads around. You should look into it more. It's not that easy but it pays off and cuts everything down to size. And once you know to optimize you can fuck with cooler shit that rivals AAA gaming of the 2010s.

 

[Judge Dredd]

It’s only game, why you heff to be mad?

It's about man hours, and the amount of skill required to get something passable. To look at extreme examples. You can make a character skin in minecraft in minutes with a basic paint program, but a single character for a AAA game can take months to model, texture, rig, and all of that requires a high degree of skill to not be ugly.

Same with maps. A Doom map can be made in hours, the tools are simple, but more importantly, those simple maps work within the aesthetic of the game. Something like Source 2 takes way longer to map for, and the difference in quality is massive.


Which of these is official and which is fan made? Impossible to tell.

Meanwhile


The big S&box games use a different, simpler art style than the default sausage people and "next gen" HL2 recreations,


Ideally, they'd want an art style that's easy to replicate. To lower the barrier of entry as much as possible to get as much UGC as possible.

 

[Rust Troony]

Spergout

Mental Illness or bait. Call it.

One idea hit me during the video. Why does S&Box use modern high res textures, high poly models, etc.? It should use something simpiler, easier to work with. Something like a 90s or perhaps 2000s era aesthetic. I know PSX style is hated on KF and the chans as being "troon shit", but it's widely used for a reason.

It's about man hours, and the amount of skill required to get something passable. To look at extreme examples. You can make a character skin in minecraft in minutes with a basic paint program, but a single character for a AAA game can take months to model, texture, rig, and all of that requires a high degree of skill to not be ugly.

The game engine does not dictate what you do with it, within limits of course, but even those can be address with shaders. You can very easily make a game look like a PSX game if you want to, it's just a matter of if you have the skill to write the shaders to give the game/models the look you want. Just look at dark decent:

Sure, it doesn't look good, but it looks different than source 2, and completely removes all of s&boxs' character for their own.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Yes, but you'd think for the default, they would go with something they could use to churn out content.

 

[Nameless One]

It’s only game, why you heff to be mad?

It's about man hours, and the amount of skill required to get something passable. To look at extreme examples. You can make a character skin in minecraft in minutes with a basic paint program, but a single character for a AAA game can take months to model, texture, rig, and all of that requires a high degree of skill to not be ugly.

Same with maps. A Doom map can be made in hours, the tools are simple, but more importantly, those simple maps work within the aesthetic of the game. Something like Source 2 takes way longer to map for, and the difference in quality is massive.

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The big S&box games use a different, simpler art style than the default sausage people and "next gen" HL2 recreations,


Ideally, they'd want an art style that's easy to replicate. To lower the barrier of entry as much as possible to get as much UGC as possible.

You didn't address texture compression or optimization that made DOOM and Wolfenstein work in the first place.

Not mad so much as something so idiotic like PSX aesthetic being brought up like it's gonna save some space by a kiwi dev I admire.

 

[Soggy Floppa]

You didn't address texture compression or optimization that made DOOM and Wolfenstein work in the first place.

Not mad so much as something so idiotic like PSX aesthetic being brought up like it's gonna save some space by a kiwi dev I admire.

Palatalized texture support was dropped from GPUs after block compression became a thing, and now GPUs cant do it at all in hardware unless someone writes a shader to do it but that has no gain and only losses over block DXT compression

 

[Nameless One]

Palatalized texture support was dropped from GPUs after block compression became a thing, and now GPUs cant do it at all in hardware unless someone writes a shader to do it but that has no gain and only losses over block DXT compression

Thanks for the info.

Well no fucking wonder modern games are missing something, among many things we lost.

 

[Billy the Adult]

One idea hit me during the video. Why does S&Box use modern high res textures, high poly models, etc.? It should use something simpiler, easier to work with. Something like a 90s or perhaps 2000s era aesthetic. I know PSX style is hated on KF and the chans as being "troon shit", but it's widely used for a reason.

Because you want to be a bit generic, "high end" as an engine, since it shows off the top end of what the engine is capable of. You don't want to give the impression its just a retro-style engine. Though having a mode/map that uses the PSX style might've been good advertising.

 

[Fucker Carlson]

Gmod megayoutuber VanossGaming has finally released a video playing s&box with his friends. I'm not sure what the current highest-viewed s&box video is, but I'm guessing this will overtake that spot in a few hours if it hasn't already.

What I think is extra funny is that the video doesn't use the title "s&box," it calls it "Garry's Mod 2." The word "sandbox" is not said in the video except for once near the end lol. You just know Garry is fuming about that, even though it'd be in his best interest to just accept the attention and move on. Meanwhile, the reviews still sit at 45%.