s&box - Spiritual successor to Garry's Mod.

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Do you think the game is gonna suck?

  • Trannies will ruin it.

    Votes: 119 43.6%
  • No.

    Votes: 18 6.6%
  • Yes.

    Votes: 57 20.9%
  • Gmod is better.

    Votes: 79 28.9%

  • Total voters
    273
Really sucks that Garry went this redditor route of trying to be unique with sausage party dudes and Temu Roblox, over just making a easy of use sandbox game for Source 2 and being THE guy to make documentation and guides for the engine and have your own game be a good playground for novice and higher skilled game devs to play with for Source 2.
 
Really sucks that Garry went this redditor route of trying to be unique with sausage party dudes and Temu Roblox, over just making a easy of use sandbox game for Source 2 and being THE guy to make documentation and guides for the engine and have your own game be a good playground for novice and higher skilled game devs to play with for Source 2.
Could totally see a future where an actual Source 2 SDK is never released because S&box exists and it's "basically the same thing" or some shit even though it's really more like Unity at this point
 
Could totally see a future where an actual Source 2 SDK is never released because S&box exists and it's "basically the same thing" or some shit even though it's really more like Unity at this point
String leaks point to valve possibly working on it, presumably as part of hlx. It would be very funny if jbmod 2 is made on the real SDK and completely supplants Garry and S&box, Garry had his chance.
 
Could totally see a future where an actual Source 2 SDK is never released because S&box exists and it's "basically the same thing" or some shit even though it's really more like Unity at this point
Hopefully not.
String leaks point to valve possibly working on it, presumably as part of hlx. It would be very funny if jbmod 2 is made on the real SDK and completely supplants Garry and S&box, Garry had his chance.
You know, I would honestly root for JBMod as a comeback if that were the case. People may say "haha, funny" if JBMod gets his shit together or someone who is willing to get the idea of JBMod and simply say "NO TRANS NO FAGS NO REDDITORS" and works on the mod as it should be for Source 2, it has potential.
 
Garry’s reasoning for why he didn’t add Half-Life models to s&box.

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He mentioned spending around 7 million dollars developing s&box and talked about his GMod days.

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Comparing yourself to Jesus is a tier one cope. You had a huge audience of people who wanted gmod but source 2 but decided to appease NFT bros and niggers "investors" instead, so you're rightfully getting push back on it, especially when it takes you years to actually make it, making those people who decided to stop watching the news on s&box come back and realize what a shit storm you've made.

You could have very easily not made the sausage people. You could have easily made it so that models were not set in stone, and were free to modify as long as the games allowed it. You could have very easily decided not to add microtransactions to a $20 game. You could have very easily made native steam workshop support, not some weird half baked one where every asset is hosted on your own servers, giving people the freedom to make whatever they wanted. He should really screw his head back on and realize the people scrutinizing everything are the actual fans and not the retards trying to push him towards continuing down the path of AI slop and NFTs, and that these people are two different entities, so the people that are telling you to change shit are different than the ones mad you actually changed it.
 
Comparing yourself to Jesus is a tier one cope. You had a huge audience of people who wanted gmod but source 2 but decided to appease NFT bros and niggers "investors" instead, so you're rightfully getting push back on it, especially when it takes you years to actually make it, making those people who decided to stop watching the news on s&box come back and realize what a shit storm you've made.

You could have very easily not made the sausage people. You could have easily made it so that models were not set in stone, and were free to modify as long as the games allowed it. You could have very easily decided not to add microtransactions to a $20 game. You could have very easily made native steam workshop support, not some weird half baked one where every asset is hosted on your own servers, giving people the freedom to make whatever they wanted. He should really screw his head back on and realize the people scrutinizing everything are the actual fans and not the retards trying to push him towards continuing down the path of AI slop and NFTs, and that these people are two different entities, so the people that are telling you to change shit are different than the ones mad you actually changed it.
I just find Garry choice to do sausage people retarded. If Garry wanted to advertise unique characters and not just boring normal human models (something he complained about in the past) why didn't he develop a very cool easy to use character modeler for S&box that lets you customize a characters limbs and look, with the ability to import/export the texture mesh for the character model you made so you can easily make your own personal textures for it. I feel like this would've grabbed a wide array of people over sausage people.

a very in depth character creator that is user friendly and lets novice make silly tall lanky or hunch short people for fun, and has the ability of a expert to master it and do in-depth texture customization for further uniqueness of a character. and with a system where you could of had people share models they make and allow use in gamemodes if the creator of the gamemode allows custom models. I feel like going all out with player freedom and creativity would've helped him in the longer run than pushing the sausage people on to gamers.


I just feel Garry overall failed to advertise the game, failed to listen to the wants people had in a spiritual successor game, and come to terms his core audience right now is crypto bros trying market manipulate cardboard box hats, AI slop games for high player count, and making the game feel very profit first over creativity first.
 
The false/misleading marketing saying it is a G-mod sequel/successor is not legit
Because it is not legit.

It's a G-mod successor. That doesn't mean it's good.

Really sucks that Garry went this redditor route of trying to be unique with sausage party dudes and Temu Roblox, over just making a easy of use sandbox game for Source 2 and being THE guy to make documentation and guides for the engine and have your own game be a good playground for novice and higher skilled game devs to play with for Source 2.
That's the tragedy in all of this. Had they stuck to the mandate of "Source 2 with a user friendly front end for the masses", it could have worked. If they had stuck with "Gmod successor with more flexibility and modern features" it wouldn't have been my thing but people would've been happy. I even think the sausage people could've worked if they stuck to their guns.

Instead it tried to be a Gmod sequel and a game engine and roblox and a CSGO skin farming game, and it fails at all of them.
 
If I backed down on the sausage-men then they would say 'wow i cant believe he backed down on the sausage-men' so theres no way to win if you really think about it
 
The hype guy is starting to capitulate after betting on the wrong game for years
 
Comparing yourself to Jesus is a tier one cope. You had a huge audience of people who wanted gmod but source 2 but decided to appease NFT bros and niggers "investors" instead, so you're rightfully getting push back on it, especially when it takes you years to actually make it, making those people who decided to stop watching the news on s&box come back and realize what a shit storm you've made.

You could have very easily not made the sausage people. You could have easily made it so that models were not set in stone, and were free to modify as long as the games allowed it. You could have very easily decided not to add microtransactions to a $20 game. You could have very easily made native steam workshop support, not some weird half baked one where every asset is hosted on your own servers, giving people the freedom to make whatever they wanted. He should really screw his head back on and realize the people scrutinizing everything are the actual fans and not the retards trying to push him towards continuing down the path of AI slop and NFTs, and that these people are two different entities, so the people that are telling you to change shit are different than the ones mad you actually changed it.
Unfortunately, I think he is high on his own farts right now, so he's probably in denial at this whole conundrum. I figured sooner or later he would prove himself to be a one-hit wonder.
I just find Garry choice to do sausage people retarded. If Garry wanted to advertise unique characters and not just boring normal human models (something he complained about in the past) why didn't he develop a very cool easy to use character modeler for S&box that lets you customize a characters limbs and look, with the ability to import/export the texture mesh for the character model you made so you can easily make your own personal textures for it. I feel like this would've grabbed a wide array of people over sausage people.
I thought of something potentially retarded: Stick people. BUT, the catch: you start as one, and you have a choice to enhance it all the way until you create a functioning character. You cannot have a stickperson, but you are free to have many ideas of how you will create a human. It's retarded, but it's an idea to someone who wants to be "different".
 
Maybe s&box will ultimately redeem itself but it's not very promising when even some of its most ardent defenders are saying that it needs a year or two to be good.
 
Just let them cook. Complaining about the sausage people is retarded you can code anything for a player model into the game. There's an ed Edd and eddy style black ops zombies game with custom player models.

Right now the game isn't worth buying there's only a handful of good games but people need to understand this ain't Garrys mod 2 this is Roblox for adults.
 
Just let them cook. Complaining about the sausage people is retarded you can code anything for a player model into the game. There's an ed Edd and eddy style black ops zombies game with custom player models.

Right now the game isn't worth buying there's only a handful of good games but people need to understand this ain't Garrys mod 2 this is Roblox for adults.
do you think it will get to the same peak that gmod reached back like what, 15 years ago?
 
do you think it will get to the same peak that gmod reached back like what, 15 years ago?
Not for awhile. But the thing is there's an insane amount of money to be made for little effort right now. Garry gave these dark RP people 90k even before the game launched. Once people realize there's good money to be made the content will follow.

I will say this I think Garry would be way better off putting a team together to directly communicate and try to poach developers to join the platform and make games. The way it's set up now has lead to low quality high quantity
 
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