Saints Row thread

[Vault Boy]

The real worse thing is that you COULD make a decent story about student debt leading to crime, without zoomer pandering.

A LOT of normal millennials/Gen Y types were railroaded into going to college and fucked over with a huge amount of debt, an economic crash in 2008 that derailed a huge chunk of that generations' ability to get a career in their actual useful degree's field, and decimated any hope they might have towards getting a job that would let them pay off that debt, so they could buy a house, marry, start a family, and work towards a retirement.

The Boss being a guy in his mid-30s to early 40s who played by the rules but then snaps at the unfair nature of our modern capitalist world and the insanity of political correctness gone wild and who ends up by chance, meeting up with Johnny Gatt or one of the other Saints and decides to go into crime and ends up showing such aptitude that he becomes the boss of the Saints could be a fun game. But not this shit.

Saints Row/Falling Down would be something actually unique, more so than ripping off Watch Dogs 2 with unlikable characters.

 

[The Last Stand]

I won't lie. I love the customization showcase with this reboot. I'm still a but confused of how far it goes with your HQ and "homies." Weapon camo and car customization is a highlight along with more clothing options.

But, the overall tone of this reboot is a turn off for me.

 

[Mega Black]

I won't lie. I love the customization showcase with this reboot. I'm still a but confused of how far it goes with your HQ and "homies." Weapon camo and car customization is a highlight along with more clothing options.

But, the overall tone of this reboot is a turn off for me.

The enhanced customization is basically their only selling point and it was pretty cool, but goddamn, how fun is it going to be to use all that when the rest of the game's world, story, and tone is so fucking abysmal? It feels like a Twitter game, and Twitter sucks.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Saints Row reboots one redeeming quality is you can play Barbie with your boss bitch MC.

 

[CWCissey]

I did have a lot of fun building Jarvis Cocker in Saints Row 2.

 

[Mega Black]

Saints Row reboots one redeeming quality is you can play Barbie with your boss bitch MC.

But a detailed character creator can only get you so far. When the rest of the game involves running around and slapping repetitive enemies with healthbars over their heads and getting your BIPOC 'friends' to lecture you on the wage gap and how The Saints are totally progressive and have a nice 50/50 split for their crime profits.

And since every major character is some millennial 20 something your protagonist is always going to feel out of place unless you, too, make a millennial 20 something.

 

[Ita Mori]

There's a fucking Drumpf orange man joke... rent free in your head...

There's a high chance they might end up patching that out...

If this game turns to the bar minimum playable, I'll just make a chad trump like i did for the others.

...precisely in fear of actions like this. You aren't allowed to make a badass Drumph.

That all said, customization looks good enough I guess.
Too bad it's for a shit story.
Normally I'd also care about the radio and what music stations they'll have, but unlike in 2013 consoles can now play your preferred streaming app flawlessly so who honestly cares at this point? Not like I'm buying this trash anyway.

it's Epic Games Store exclusive on PC

lol yeah, definitely not buying this.

The real worse thing is that you COULD make a decent story about student debt leading to crime, without zoomer pandering.

A LOT of normal millennials/Gen Y types were railroaded into going to college and fucked over with a huge amount of debt, an economic crash in 2008 that derailed a huge chunk of that generations' ability to get a career in their actual useful degree's field, and decimated any hope they might have towards getting a job that would let them pay off that debt, so they could buy a house, marry, start a family, and work towards a retirement.

The Boss being a guy in his mid-30s to early 40s who played by the rules but then snaps at the unfair nature of our modern capitalist world and the insanity of political correctness gone wild and who ends up by chance, meeting up with Johnny Gatt or one of the other Saints and decides to go into crime and ends up showing such aptitude that he becomes the boss of the Saints could be a fun game. But not this shit.

Great idea, but it hits too close to home and rocks the boat too much to ever happen.
Accurately showcasing the failings & corruption of the government/economic system is the 21st century equivalent of burning bibles and IdPol types are the respective fundies who will bitch and moan until they're heard.

Can somebody tell me the deal with this Dex character? I've never finished Saints Row 2. I know Gat Out of Hell spoiled the ending with that Ultor guy being in Hell.

Dex was a high ranking member of the Saints in the first game. Saints Row 2 reveals he was headhunted by Ultor before the boat explosion in Saints Row 1 which made it so Troy couldn't touch him after becoming Chief of Police. You get his phone number in Saints Row 2 while hunting for Julius and he leads both of you into an ambush in an attempt to tie up all his loose ends.

In the Corporate Warfare DLC, you protect Ultors new CEO from assassins sent by Dex and then dismantle some toxic waste operation he has set up. Dex then is transferred to an undisclosed Ultor branch outside of Stilwater. The boss kills Dex's remaining associates in Stilwater and vows to hunt him down.

Then...they just kind of forgot about him when the series took the tonal shit with Saints Row the Third. Canonically he just got blown up with the rest of Earth in Saints Row 4 and then went to hell where Gat can find him randomly and kill him in Gat out of Hell.

(outside of the story, he was an assassination target in the cancelled game Saints Row: Moneyshot, but since you would have played as a rogue Ultor agent in that the Saints still would have pretty much forgotten about him in the story)

I just wanted to add, Dex's main motivation to drop his flags was Troy's betrayal.
He saw the writing on the wall; Troy had succeeded exceedingly well in using the Saints to rid Stilwater of crime. The police now could focus their attention on one gang rather than 3-4. The top heads, Dex included, were all jail-bound.
The way Dex saw it, there was no point in being loyal or dissident like Johnny or the Playa; Julius had been stupid enough to let a cop be his right hand man. It was over. There was no happy-ever-after to be found in continuing.
Ultor offered him a means of going legit (although one can question how Ultor had the political clout to protect Dex given how Ultor in SR1 are just a clothing company as opposed to the mogul empire they would become going forward, and my personal answer to that is Troy mentions to Julius that he doesn't want to jail the people he'd come to see as his friends, and wouldn't do so as long as they agreed to drop their flags and dissolve the Saints) and no longer resorting to crime to sustain himself.
He had no regrets, the Saints had ultimately served their purpose regardless of Troy; they freed the Row and their people were no longer scared to walk the streets.

Dex does try to relay some of this to the Boss angrily in the CW DLC, but the Boss ain't having any of it. The Boss has learned that "being in charge is better than being a bitch who does what they're told", and loves it.

I also would like to add that it's funny that Johnny was so anal over Troy yet never gave a damn about Dex deserting, even after noticing that Troy would use his office to make life for Johnny easier, meanwhile knowing Dex was free yet never dropping by to check on an old brother. This man really hates Pigs even over Rats it seems.
It's also weird Dex is willing to goad the Boss into killing Julius and vice-versa, but doesn't go for Johnny. It implies the attempted murder of Boss/Julius wasn't about tying up loose ends, but rather a personal matter instead. Was he jealous of the Boss' eventual standing with Julius back in the original Saints? Did he harbor a personal resentment towards Julius, seeing himself replaced and not appreciated enough?
These were questions I've been wondering since 2008 and was burning to see answered in SR3 back when it was rumored that SR3 would be a far more personal game involving the Saints OGs. It might even be why I was so off-put by SR3 from the start.
It's certainly a factor of why Dex's appearance in GooH pissed me off to autistic levels. Really? The one Saint Dex never went after and the only other OG Johnny seemingly respected enough to give a pass on his desertion are the ones who "end" the storyline in hell? And in such a lazy ass way, mind you...

 

[Pissmaster]

I'm gonna make fun of Saints Woke: Notorious Edition, the box-o'-crap version of the game:

https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/products/saints-row-notorious-edition-gamestop-exclusive---xbox-series-x/308123.html

https://archive.ph/rQIt4

The Saints Row Notorious Edition is a special collection of exclusive physical items; this is the ultimate creation for serious Saints Row fans and collectors.

In addition to the full game and Expansion Pass, the Notorious Edition features a huge stack of exclusive items offering an in-depth look into the Saints gang and the criminal world of Santo Ileso.

THE NOTORIOUS EDITION INCLUDES ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:​

• Exclusive SteelBook® with game disc
• Expansion Pass
• Double-sided poster (66cm(W) x 39.3cm(H))
• Mini Artbook
• 4 Santo Ileso postcards
• 4 character art cards
• Bonus -Los Panteros American Muscle Bundle
• Bonus - The Saints Criminal Customs

So:

• steelbook, lol
• DLC
• paper
• paper
• paper
• paper
• DLC
• DLC

All of this bullshit for $90. And at least one of you ITT might end up owning this, considering how special editions of bad games gather dust on shelves until they're clearanced out for cheaper than the game on its own.

...I don't know what else there is to say. It's $30 extra for some DLC and pictures of game assets printed on sheets of paper of assorted sizes and stock. Pretty standard stuff as far as AAA box-o'-crap games go. Still, it's not exactly endearing towards a game that has absolutely no hype surrounding it whatsoever. A double-sided poster is one of the perks, huh? I seem to recall a crime sandbox series that included full maps with every single copy of the game, and never advertised it as a selling point. They were just there behind the instruction manuals, in all their full-color glory. Can anyone ITT remember what series that was?

Oh, and I recall that series including a sticker with at least one of the games, something that would have been cheap and nice to include with this thing, but isn't.

 

[Adamska]

For fuck's sake, at least drop it with a can of Saint's Flow, maybe a snap back as a nod to Julius, or something nice that could go on the shelf like a mascot statue or something.

Not fucking worth ninety bucks.

 

[The Last Stand]

A double-sided poster is one of the perks, huh? I seem to recall a crime sandbox series that included full maps with every single copy of the game, and never advertised it as a selling point. They were just there behind the instruction manuals, in all their full-color glory. Can anyone ITT remember what series that was?

I think it was The Grand Theft or something.

For fuck's sake, at least drop it with a can of Saint's Flow, maybe a snap back as a nod to Julius, or something nice that could go on the shelf like a mascot statue or something.

Not fucking worth ninety bucks.

Not even with $60.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Collectors Editions were always bad, but they've gotten *really* pathetic the past 10 years.

 

[SiccDicc]

Collectors Editions were always bad, but they've gotten *really* pathetic the past 10 years.

Only company I know of that goes all out is THQ Nordic. Occasionally Bamco.

 

[Psyduck]

I seem to recall a crime sandbox series that included full maps with every single copy of the game, and never advertised it as a selling point. They were just there behind the instruction manuals, in all their full-color glory. Can anyone ITT remember what series that was?

Oh, and I recall that series including a sticker with at least one of the games, something that would have been cheap and nice to include with this thing, but isn't.

I think it was The Grand Theft or something.

Im pretty sure it's Driver

 

[Point Man]

My favorite special edition of Saints Row has to be the Saints Row 4 Super Dangerous Wad Wad Edition that costs $1 million USD.
It comes with a bunch of shit that would just cost less if you paid for everying separately.
What comes with this way overpriced special edition for a super hero game wearing the skin of a long dead franchise?

• Saints Row IV Commander In Chief Edition
• A flight to space with Virgin Galactic
• A full sized replica of the Dubstep Gun, which currently resides in Volition offices.
• A "hostage rescue experience."
• Spy training
• Plasic surgery
• A personal shopper
• Capsule wardrobe
• A 7 night stay at the Top Royal Suite in Burj Al-Arab, Dubai
• A week stay for two in the Jefferson Hotel in Washington D.C.
• First class flights to Washington D.C. and Dubai
• A Lamborghini Gallardo
• A Toyota Prius with auto insurance
• And a membership for some supercar club

A bunch of stupid shit but I find the idea funny, much better than a bunch of paper for $100.

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edit
I also want to say that the old shitty Saints Row 2 collector's edition that comes with a bullet USB stick and a gaudy fake iced out M9 box is better than the Saints Woke shit.

 

[Elysian]

Only company I know of that goes all out is THQ Nordic. Occasionally Bamco.

I heard the collectors edition of far cry 5 came with a leather-bound copy of the villain’s autobiography which contains bits of backstory that aren’t mentioned in the main game. Why can’t all collectors editions be like that? At least all the paper tat will biodegrade, I guess.

 

[frenchmortar]

Why would anyone want full-color glossy prints of a default create-a-character that won't actually exist in their playthrough of the game?

That's not even going into the fact that the cast all just look like some chick's Sims household.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

A new age Saints Row “Collectors Edition” is no different than a GTA “Definitive Edition” when the packaging and DLC content looks lazy and uninspired.

 

[The Last Stand]

I also want to say that the old shitty Saints Row 2 collector's edition that comes with a bullet USB stick and a gaudy fake iced out M9 box is better than the Saints Woke shit.

I don't think the bullet USB stick would even FIT into the 360 USB slot.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

I heard the collectors edition of far cry 5 came with a leather-bound copy of the villain’s autobiography which contains bits of backstory that aren’t mentioned in the main game. Why can’t all collectors editions be like that? At least all the paper tat will biodegrade, I guess.

GTA V came with a hat and a map that showed all sorts of secrets if you held it up to a black light IIRC. Probably an artbook too.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Maybe I'm just sick of open world crime games, but this shit looks just like Saints Row 3 to me but with bullet sponge enemies, zoomer fortnite styling and big empty boring desert.