Saints Row thread

[Jack Awful]

The whole “buried alive” thing only seems legitimate if the anti-hero character seems captivating and ruthless as a point of intrigue.

Old boss buried people alive, nuboss is a beta who gets buried alive ximself.

 

[Jack Awful]

What are the odds of the traitor being a member of the core crew? I say slim, because then you'd get to shoot the shit of at least one of those bargain bin gangsters, which would be a good thing.

I can see some character that you recruit along the way that they try to push as extremely likeable, only to pull the rug under you in the most hamfisted way possible.

It's either that or a 50/50 between the nigger and the strong independent latinx woman mechanic, so that they can claim to have the first ever fully realized female villain in an open world crime game or some such tripe.

Could be you're just betrayed by Marshal, and that's the inciting incident that gets you fired.

 

[Slav Power]

Old boss buried people alive, nuboss is a beta who gets buried alive ximself.

I've been playing Saints Row 2 for the first time recently, and I loved this scene. I've been missing out on a lot of good stuff, all because I couldn't get the game to run properly.

Also I just wanted to mention, as much as Saints Row 4 is considered as one of the worst games in the series, the credits section shows a lot of humanity in the dev team, mainly with the photos of the team scrolling on the right side, and also the VA sing-along of "Just a Friend". By the end of it all the vocal tracks end and you only hear Michael Clarke Duncan, who voiced Benjamin King in the original Saints Row, and was going to return in Saints Row 4 to once again voice Benjamin King, but in 2012, during the development of the game, Michael has passed away due to cardiac arrest. This sing-along really shows how much heart was put into the game and how it ended with a tribute to Michael. This shit would never happen with the current team at Volition, and if they were to keep the team photos, there probably wouldn't be much white dudes on them.

 

[Jack Awful]

I've been playing Saints Row 2 for the first time recently, and I loved this scene. I've been missing out on a lot of good stuff, all because I couldn't get the game to run properly.

Also I just wanted to mention, as much as Saints Row 4 is considered as one of the worst games in the series, the credits section shows a lot of humanity in the dev team, mainly with the photos of the team scrolling on the right side, and also the VA sing-along of "Just a Friend". By the end of it all the vocal tracks end and you only hear Michael Clarke Duncan, who voiced Benjamin King in the original Saints Row, and was going to return in Saints Row 4 to once again voice Benjamin King, but in 2012, during the development of the game, Michael has passed away due to cardiac arrest. This sing-along really shows how much heart was put into the game and how it ended with a tribute to Michael. This shit would never happen with the current team at Volition, and if they were to keep the team photos, there probably wouldn't be much white dudes on them.

Running and jumping around the city, pushing cars out of the way as you do was fun at least.

 

[My Name is Ed]

Old boss buried people alive, nuboss is a beta who gets buried alive ximself.

This scene sold the game for me. It was such a great tonal shift. No jokes, no quips, just the guy begging for death and Gat saying nothing more than "shut up" repeatedly.

Then when it was over I opened the menu and it played that goofy-ass music because I forgot to disable it in GotR and it gave me whiplash.

 

[Jack Awful]

This scene sold the game for me. It was such a great tonal shift. No jokes, no quips, just the guy begging for death and Gat saying nothing more than "shut up" repeatedly.

Then when it was over I opened the menu and it played that goofy-ass music because I forgot to disable it in GotR and it gave me whiplash.

This scene is so great. They'd never let the heroes be this brutal these days. Nusaints always have to be totally justified and proportional or at least learn a lesson. It's so boring.

 

[TVB]

This scene sold the game for me. It was such a great tonal shift. No jokes, no quips, just the guy begging for death and Gat saying nothing more than "shut up" repeatedly.

Then when it was over I opened the menu and it played that goofy-ass music because I forgot to disable it in GotR and it gave me whiplash.

My personal favorite scene haha

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

This scene is so great. They'd never let the heroes be this brutal these days. Nusaints always have to be totally justified and proportional or at least learn a lesson. It's so boring.

If anything, the new Saints would remind me so much of the female characters in the recent Wolfenstein game that came out just over a few plus years ago:

They managed to make the game neutered down so much that even the male lead turned soft. I really believe they would do the same with Johnny Gat if given the chance for an Easter egg of some sorts.

 

[The Last Stand]

There's some bug with the age slider. See le reddit thread.
Remaster designs are very hit and miss, Shaundi and Viola got cuter but that black STAG chick fully transitioned into a dude.

Well, that's nice.

I guess Volition got my suggestion.

 

[Vault Boy]

Nusaints always have to be totally justified

In fairness, this was completely justified for the old Saints. You'd have to be a real motherfucker to crash a funeral you indirectly caused, throw Johnny Gat's mercy back in his face (takes serious strength to not gut the bastard that ordered your girlfriend's execution on the spot), leave your gang to die when the assault goes tits up, and grovel like a little bitch when you get captured.

That little shithead deserved to get buried alive, anything else would've been too merciful.

 

[Jack Awful]

In fairness, this was completely justified for the old Saints. You'd have to be a real motherfucker to crash a funeral you indirectly caused, throw Johnny Gat's mercy back in his face (takes serious strength to not gut the bastard that ordered your girlfriend's execution on the spot), leave your gang to die when the assault goes tits up, and grovel like a little bitch when you get captured.

That little shithead deserved to get buried alive, anything else would've been too merciful.

The theme of Saints Row 2 was "did the saints go too far?" so I think there's an argument to be made there.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

The theme of Saints Row 2 was "did the saints go too far?" so I think there's an argument to be made there.

Idk, one of those crazy fan theories is Saint's Row just ends with the 1's betrayal. and starting with 2 is just a coma dream.
Man, the typical generic fan theory but all the shit happened after 3 and 4... makes sense.

 

[TVB]

Idk, one of those crazy fan theories is Saint's Row just ends with the 1's betrayal. and starting with 2 is just a coma dream.
Man, the typical generic fan theory but all the shit happened after 3 and 4... makes sense.

Shockingly yes. I don't really follow fan theories as most of completely stupid, but the connection between 2 to either 3 or 4 makes total sense.

 

[The Last Stand]

In fairness, this was completely justified for the old Saints. You'd have to be a real motherfucker to crash a funeral you indirectly caused, throw Johnny Gat's mercy back in his face (takes serious strength to not gut the bastard that ordered your girlfriend's execution on the spot), leave your gang to die when the assault goes tits up, and grovel like a little bitch when you get captured.

That little shithead deserved to get buried alive, anything else would've been too merciful.

I think his dad or uncle even disowned him while he was alive.

 

[Nguyen Van Phuoc]

I think his dad or uncle even disowned him while he was alive.

It was his dad, although to be fair Shogo wasn't completely retarded, he did do some good deals like the one with Ultor

 

[Psyduck]

It was his dad, although to be fair Shogo wasn't completely retarded, he did do some good deals like the one with Ultor

Makes you remember just how good the writing was in the earlier SR games, a lot of the enemy gangs had from relatable to downright honorable characters, like Jyunichi from the Ronin, Donnie from the Rollers, and pretty much all of the Brotherhood's main faces (seriously as insulting as the 80/20 deal was, it was the Boss who escalated shit way too soon and led to some shit that couldve been avoided)

Even though i still like SR3 and 4, the enemies really havent been as good as the earlier ones, although i do love Zinyak fucking around with you during the loyalty missions in 4

 

[Mega Black]

The theme of Saints Row 2 was "did the saints go too far?"

This is one of the things I admire the most about SR2. The answer to that question is yes, absolutely. The Boss is an unhinged psychopath who craves personal gain, power, and absolutely nothing else. Their one redeeming trait is that they seem to care deeply about their friends and allies. They actually had the balls to make their open world crime game protagonist the unequivocal villain of the whole game. Very few other games, even GTA, have the willingness to make the protagonist the villain unless it's like an RPG with a morality system. You're always justified one way or another, or fighting people worse than you, but not really in Saints Row. Even when The Boss is avenging a friend, it's because they poked the bear first and got someone else hurt.

Nu-Saints, of course, are disenfranchised youths trying to make ends meet and I know they won't have the balls to swerve on that premise and have the gang succumb to its own greed and tear itself apart, or have The Boss start to revel in the violence and chaos to such an extent that they lose themselves.

In the story trailer they recently released The Boss is goofing around with the desert Mad Max gang and shooting toy guns at them while the guy squirts ketchup all over for a sight gag. Old Boss would not tolerate that shit, they would have plugged that nerd for real and then made fun of them while they bled.

 

[Jack Awful]

This is one of the things I admire the most about SR2. The answer to that question is yes, absolutely. The Boss is an unhinged psychopath who craves personal gain, power, and absolutely nothing else. Their one redeeming trait is that they seem to care deeply about their friends and allies. They actually had the balls to make their open world crime game protagonist the unequivocal villain of the whole game. Very few other games, even GTA, have the willingness to make the protagonist the villain unless it's like an RPG with a morality system. You're always justified one way or another, or fighting people worse than you, but not really in Saints Row. Even when The Boss is avenging a friend, it's because they poked the bear first and got someone else hurt.

Nu-Saints, of course, are disenfranchised youths trying to make ends meet and I know they won't have the balls to swerve on that premise and have the gang succumb to its own greed and tear itself apart, or have The Boss start to revel in the violence and chaos to such an extent that they lose themselves.

In the story trailer they recently released The Boss is goofing around with the desert Mad Max gang and shooting toy guns at them while the guy squirts ketchup all over for a sight gag. Old Boss would not tolerate that shit, they would have plugged that nerd for real and then made fun of them while they bled.

It's also the answer to the pretentious ludonarative dissonance problem of "if the main character of the crime game is actually a good person in the story, why do they murder hundreds of cops and deliberately drive on the sidewalk to kill pedestrians in gameplay?" The answer is make them a bad person in the cutscenes.

Calling the nuboss a "charismatic murder machine" comes across as almost in bad taste considering the previous games.

 

[Mega Black]

Calling the nuboss a "charismatic murder machine" comes across as almost in bad taste considering the previous games.

The gameplay just really doesn't gel with what they're making at all. It doesn't feel right to have these characters running around gunning people down by the hundreds. How am I going to marry the fact that my protagonist has goofy karaoke shenanigans and arguments about waffle-makers when I take them into the street ten minutes after that cutscene and gun down a dozen pedestrians for the sheer thrill of it? Makes no sense, but it did in SR1/2 when The Boss was an unhinged murder machine and not a charismatic one.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

You know, Sonic Boom also started with the main character getting buried only to flashback to the actual start of the game.

Just a fun comparison.