Saints Row thread

You cannot say that the new game is canon with the old games when you've outright said that your new game is a reboot, it automatically makes it's own thing, completely unrelated to the old games. That's not how this shit work, events of GTA III are not canon to the events of GTA IV and vice versa because the GTA universe got rebooted with IV.
Canon may be the wrong word, however the saints in the reboot can logically (and likely do) exist in the same universe as the old. Saints.
 
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Canon may be the wrong word, however the saints in the reboot can logically (and likely do) exist in the same universe as the old. Saints.
Which is once again not possible with a reboot. A reboot means a completely separate universe that might have resemblance to the old one but is it's own separate thing. Same as with the GTA series, there is the 2D universe, 3D universe, and the HD universe. That's why Claude Speed from GTA2 isn't Claude from GTA3, and why the Families from GTA V are not related to the Grove Street Families from GTA:SA. Similarly The Saints from Saints Row 2022 are not related to the 3rd Street Saints from the original games. Because this is a separate universe that is only loosely based on the old one, but has no actual connection to it. Not like nu-Volition would like it to anyway, that's the whole reason why they made it a reboot. They hate the old games and want to disassociate themselves from them.
 
Which is once again not possible with a reboot. A reboot means a completely separate universe that might have resemblance to the old one but is it's own separate thing. Same as with the GTA series, there is the 2D universe, 3D universe, and the HD universe. That's why Claude Speed from GTA2 isn't Claude from GTA3, and why the Families from GTA V are not related to the Grove Street Families from GTA:SA. Similarly The Saints from Saints Row 2022 are not related to the 3rd Street Saints from the original games. Because this is a separate universe that is only loosely based on the old one, but has no actual connection to it. Not like nu-Volition would like it to anyway, that's the whole reason why they made it a reboot. They hate the old games and want to disassociate themselves from them.
The question is whether or not its actually a reboot or we are just reffering to it as that?

I'm not sure it's ever been officially reffered to as a reboot (correct me if I'm wrong) however in the end I agree with Jack Awful, this seems to be alternate timeline/same universe with unrelated events
 
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Stop giving a shit about canon and you'll live a happier life.
The only thing in SR that’s canon that anyone should give half a shit about is the ending of SR3. Sure, they had the scrapped DLC that was turned into SR4, but I liked the Kill Killbane ending.

Even if the Legally Distinct Helicarrier was fucking dumb, it was at least Cool Dumb. I’d’ve liked to see what they would’ve done with that ending
 
Early Access, 39 minutes. You got the spare time for this?
>Boss is a former Marshall.
>Military training explains how good you are, instead of being a badass "just cause."
>This is seen as a good thing.
>Gwen, your sergeant chews you out in a nasally black woman voice.
>Your ass is exploded multiple times.
>This is seen as "Comedic".
>Enemies have healthbars.
>4 shots to shoot someone, says you got a "headshot" with the kill.
>In SR2, headshots were instant kills, made clearing a room with a single pistol just as viable as with an assault rife.
>Some gay ass running animation. The Roadie Run from Gears is less gay.
>Lining up and taking cover behind an APC.
>"Modern Warfare is cool, let's have this section be entirely linear."
>This is seen as innovation.
>Hot key presses over explosives.
>Gives the player no explosives cause. "lol, rookie."
>Turret sequence.
>"AYO WITE BOI GET DAT RPG"
>This is seen as progressive.
>Explosions look like someone set off fire works.
>All pretty effects, absolutely no physics.
>This is seen as technological innovation.
>Even the choppers have healthbars.
>Just sit there, press X till bar depletes.
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>More cutscenes where the APC crashes.
>This is the second time with your ass blowing up that you do not control the player.
>The game loves to take away control away from the player. It's CoD 2 vs CoD:WW2 all over again.
>"The things we do for rent."
>Kicking someone does about 1/3rd damage, and considering it's only a kick, it's not a proper martial fighting style like in SR2.
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>Takedown enemies for health.
>We copied this from Doom Eternal because it seems like a good idea. But the takedowns take at least 3 seconds.
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>"I'm going to go kill grunts."
>WITE BOI, GIT BACK HERE! YOU AIN'T PAYED REPORATIONS YET!
>I hate this sergeant because she's completely non badass and sounds board.
>Target ends up running. Convenient aircraft means he escapes.
>It's a 2 minute long cutscene where you attach the APC to the jet and climb it, grunts and all.
>"Help me Sarge, you're my only hope."
>TOLD YOU TO STAND DOWN WITE BOI.
>You're just flip-flopping around the jet and it's supposed to be cool. But it's boring.
>You catch the guy anyway when you crash the jet.

>Character creator is skipped.
>Pictures of the other people in the crew, pencil black nerd, mecha-latina and shirtless beach bum.
>Doesn't get the bonus.
>I GIT THAT REPARATIONS WITE BOI, NO GIBS FER U.
>Mission is called First F$%@ing Day.
>Get in your car, wagie.
>Go home without rent, wagie.
>Listen to inoffensive rap music, wagie.
>This is seen as next gen gameplay.
>The brown and dust covered buildings of New Mexico make everything look like brown.
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>This is "riveting Dialog."
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>They're discussing how much to chip in for a waffle iron. Yes, really.
>They unironically use "Wagie"
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>M U G M O S A
>U
>G
>M
>O
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>This is cringe dialog and it's seen as good.
>"I have to pay my student loans."
>"Gwen walked off the set of an 80s action movie."
She's no Pam Grier, more like Cleopatra Jones. All talk, no budget. God I wish she were Pammy, just someone nice to talk to that has huge... fire support assets she can call in. A black chick emulating blaxplotation, now that'd be someone good for the Saints.
>Eli: "Are we going to make rent?"
>You could just take the loan.
>"I don't do business with morally bankrupt companies."
>This is the boss saying this.
>"Brunch is for food and mimosas, not to debate morality."
>Tell Kev to put on a shirt.
>"Dinner and a show."
>"Can we boost a hybrid?"
>"Your carbon footprint always matters."
>Still has nigga rap on the station.
>Just "nigga, nigga nigga."
>Eli puts on a self help tape.
>Eli dropped a gun and shot someone. Hah, the Nerd doesn't know how to shoot.
>Have to wait by a level crossing for a train to pass through. No jumps or anything pass, just waiting.
>We borrowed the side-swiping mechanic from Need for Speed, this will make for an interesting mechanic.
>Eli: "Capitalist Genius."
>LEVEL UP UNLOCK A NEW SKILL
>No longer do you unlock things by doing the side jobs, no now you just earn XP and unlock it. IT'S SO SIMPLE.
>Skill unlocked: Pinapple express, throw grenade down pants and throw them at enemy.
>Grab a bike instead.
>In-offensive rock playing.
>You jump over a canyon except you don't escape the cops because cutscene.
>NeeNAHHHH shows up in her car and does this, defying gravity.
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>There's a part 2.
Not doing that. One of the things a comment pointed out was at 29:20 while driving through the streets, there are no pedestrians. I know the guy is playing on a console but it's downgraded Cyberpunk all over again.


In short. This game looks boring. Boring setting, boring companions, mish-mash boring gameplay and boring boss. Why should I play this?
 
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I can't stress enough how much I despise that shirtless douchebag. Here these pricks are struggling to pay their rent (and student loans, because becoming a criminal to obey a law is perfect logic), and this asshole wants them to pitch in for a $300 waffle maker. Unless it can make a dozen waffles at once or has a module that sucks your dick while cooking, that is such idiotic waste of money when you can buy one for less than $50 (better yet, use that money to buy guns since you're supposed to be fucking criminals).

I wouldn't be as pissed if it was a new video game console as that can at least provide entertainment, this is just a fucking waffle maker.

Morons like him are why a lot of people, even other millennials, despise millennials almost as much as boomers.
 
Here's your Saints Row reboot devs. A bunch of woke-looking hair-dyed she/hers.
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Volition is really leaning on twitch whores shilling their game hard enough to make their paypigs and simps fork over $60.

Kinzie Kinsington had no real role in the Saints if Shaundi had her old personality with her hundreds of connections and hacking abilities, most I see defending it is "people change" and she "sobered up." Acting like a cunt during the intro bank heist was too drastic of a change, especially from a mellow personality like that, remember the exchange when the MC assigned her the Sons of Samedi? Kinzie was definitely favored over Shaundi in SRIV, Gat out of Hell, and Agents of Mayhem.

I've seen discussions (someone's head canon) about her using Image As Designed to improve her looks, Fun Shaundi would stick out in that Power trailer.
Yeah Shaundi was reworked so Kenzie could live. Old Shaundi could do everything Kenzie could which makes Ms. Kinsington pointless.
And tbh I prefer SR2 Shaundi's happy-go-lucky style over Kenzie's patented 2010's snark and cynicism-as-a-virtue.
Don't get me wrong Kenzie's fine enough, but I feel OG Shaundi was better.

Although I don't get why Shaundi would want to improve her looks. She had no problem getting laid and making friends. Her self-esteem seldom feels the need for plastic surgery.

I argue Shaundi got the worst personality change after 2, at least the boss change is related to the opening of the game saying the Saints sold out (not too sure if he would do that tho), tho in exchange we got Oleg so uh...
That's precisely what irks me; the Saints selling out.
There is no way The Boss and Gat would agree to become corporate whores. I can see Pierce wanting to become a celebrity and the Boss's laissez-faire attitude allowing it so long as the Saints get a cut and launder their money through it, but The Boss has 0 reason to chill out and become an anti-hero. If anything he should be even more psychotic (in his chase for revenge on Dex) and arrogant (toppling the Stilwater criminal underworld twice, and killing an Ultor CEO to boot).

Early Access, 39 minutes. You got the spare time for this?
Why is every menu nowadays so fucking sterile?
Everyone who gets a chub at minimalist san-serif needs to inject lead into their eyes.
God forbid you have an identity in your GUI and menus.

One of the things a comment pointed out was at 29:20 while driving through the streets, there are no pedestrians. I know the guy is playing on a console but it's downgraded Cyberpunk all over again.
WTF Why?
CP2077 was at least new engine from the later end of the last decade that demands contemporary hardware to run decent, but Volition is using a duct-tape'd update of their engine from SR3 which was being developed in 09. How is this mangled mess born from the days of the PS360 having trouble running on consoles two generations later? You absolute incompetent mongs...
 
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Early Access,
I love how, despite clearly trying to make a generic white guy, the character still has giant nigger lips because the game only gives you brown people presets.
Why is every menu nowadays so fucking sterile?
Games are now made by talentless roasties who play phone games exclusively, which have sterile menus because you're using a touch screen.
WTF Why?
CP2077 was at least new engine from the later end of the last decade that demands contemporary hardware to run decent, but Volition is using a duct-tape'd update of their engine from SR3 which was being developed in 09. How is this mangled mess born from the days of the PS360 having trouble running on consoles two generations later?
Same answer, women and troons hired for their sexual preferences and pronouns, not their talent. Most games run significantly worse than they should these days because of it.
"Journos" are going to sugarcoat their praises or even say very positive things about it and then forget about it. It's the same exact sing and dance number.
Journos have honestly been very, very, lukewarm about this game. It has no personality at all, every IGN preview has had the conclusion that it's okay at best.
 
I can't stress enough how much I despise that shirtless douchebag. Here these pricks are struggling to pay their rent (and student loans, because becoming a criminal to obey a law is perfect logic), and this asshole wants them to pitch in for a $300 waffle maker. Unless it can make a dozen waffles at once or has a module that sucks your dick while cooking, that is such idiotic waste of money when you can buy one for less than $50 (better yet, use that money to buy guns since you're supposed to be fucking criminals).

I wouldn't be as pissed if it was a new video game console as that can at least provide entertainment, this is just a fucking waffle maker.

Morons like him are why a lot of people, even other millennials, despise millennials almost as much as boomers.
I'm really getting the vibe that he's the betrayal character.

We know here that he espouses some reddit shit on capitalism, but we also know that later on you save him from the commie gang. I'm assuming that he betrays you later, since they are shown to be the "main" gang in most gameplay

That said, that whole scene is a giant joke about millenial culture. All of the non working idiots buying dumb things and then shitting on the one guy that works
 
That said, that whole scene is a giant joke about millenial culture. All of the non working idiots buying dumb things and then shitting on the one guy that works
It's a joke alright but definitely not an intentional one. I can't fathom why you still think this is some kind of giant pastiche about Millenial culture when it's clear as day that the game is written as genuinely as it can get.
 
Nice to know the game also controls like shit given that enemies soak bullets and can't be dropped with headshots, thus dragging on the fight. That genuinely was my play style through 2 and 3 and because of that I favored pistols akimbo over other weapons. Nice to know that it's not even going to be a good game mechanically.
 
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